Nikolai Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 November: .3" December: 4.8" January: 7.1" February: 9.2" March: 3.9" April: .6" Total: 25.9" Obviously the 2000s have significantly helped December and February, with Decembers from the last 10 years averaging over 8" and Februarys over 13". The January average remains relatively unchanged while March continues to decline. The seasonal snowfall average for the last 10 years (January 2001-December 2010) is 32.1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Great thread......its ineresting to see the death of snowfall in march Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 So now we have 1 good decade and two crappy ones. In other words we still have the numbers skewed downward just not as much anymore. It's a start I'm just glad people can't quote that bogus 22 inch average anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 So now we have 1 good decade and two crappy ones. In other words we still have the numbers skewed downward just not as much anymore. It's a start I'm just glad people can't quote that bogus 22 inch average anymore. You think an average of 26" is skewed downward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Are the new normals available already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 the seasonal averages for NYC... 10 yr ave.....................Oct.....Nov.....Dec.....Jan.....Feb.....Mar.....Apr.....total... 1870-71 to 1879-80......0.1.....0.9.....6.7......9.7......8.8.....4.1......1.6.....31.9 1880-81 to 1889-90........0......1.8.....7.1......8.8......7.6.....6.8......0.7.....32.8 1890-91 to 1899-00........0......3.3.....4.3......8.7....10.6.....7.1......0.8.....34.8 1900-01 to 1909-10........0......0.3.....6.2......9.1......9.2.....4.8......0.6.....30.2 1910-11 to 1919-20........0......0.2.....7.5......4.8......9.5.....8.3......2.3.....32.6 1920-21 to 1929-30......0.1.....0.1.....4.2......8.5....10.1.....2.2......0.9.....26.1 1930-31 to 1939-40........T......2.2.....4.3......6.4......8.5.....3.5......0.8.....25.7 1940-41 to 1949-50........T......0.6.....9.1......7.4......8.6.....4.8......1.1.....31.6 1950-51 to 1959-60......0.1.....0.5.....4.7......5.2......3.4.....8.0......0.8.....22.7 1960-61 to 1969-70........T......0.3.....7.4......7.7....10.6.....4.6......0.1.....30.7 1970-71 to 1979-80........T......0.3.....1.7......7.3......9.5.....2.4......0.1.....21.3 1980-81 to 1989-90........0......0.6.....2.1......7.8......5.3.....2.9......1.1.....19.8 1990-91 to 1999-00........0......0.3.....2.9......6.9......9.1.....5.4......0.2.....24.8 2000-01 to 2009-10........T........T......7.8......6.5....13.3.....3.5......0.4.....31.5 2010-11 to 2019-20........0........T....20.1 1870-71 to 2009-10........T......0.8.....5.4......7.5......8.9.....4.9......0.8.....28.3 1980-81 to 2009-10........T......0.3.....4.3......7.1......9.2.....4.0......0.6.....25.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 the seasonal averages for NYC... 10 yr ave.....................Oct.....Nov.....Dec.....Jan.....Feb.....Mar.....Apr.....total... 1870-71 to 1879-80......0.1.....0.9.....6.7......9.7......8.8.....4.1......1.6.....31.9 1880-81 to 1889-90........0......1.8.....7.1......8.8......7.6.....6.8......0.7.....32.8 1890-91 to 1899-00........0......3.3.....4.3......8.7....10.6.....7.1......0.8.....34.8 1900-01 to 1909-10........0......0.3.....6.2......9.1......9.2.....4.8......0.6.....30.2 1910-11 to 1919-20........0......0.2.....7.5......4.8......9.5.....8.3......2.3.....32.6 1920-21 to 1929-30......0.1.....0.1.....4.2......8.5....10.1.....2.2......0.9.....26.1 1930-31 to 1939-40........T......2.2.....4.3......6.4......8.5.....3.5......0.8.....25.7 1940-41 to 1949-50........T......0.6.....9.1......7.4......8.6.....4.8......1.1.....31.6 1950-51 to 1959-60......0.1.....0.5.....4.7......5.2......3.4.....8.0......0.8.....22.7 1960-61 to 1969-70........T......0.3.....7.4......7.7....10.6.....4.6......0.1.....30.7 1970-71 to 1979-80........T......0.3.....1.7......7.3......9.5.....2.4......0.1.....21.3 1980-81 to 1989-90........0......0.6.....2.1......7.8......5.3.....2.9......1.1.....19.8 1990-91 to 1999-00........0......0.3.....2.9......6.9......9.1.....5.4......0.2.....24.8 2000-01 to 2009-10........T........T......7.8......6.5....13.3.....3.5......0.4.....31.5 2010-11 to 2019-20........0........T....20.1 1870-71 to 2009-10........T......0.8.....5.4......7.5......8.9.....4.9......0.8.....28.3 1980-81 to 2009-10........T......0.3.....4.3......7.1......9.2.....4.0......0.6.....25.4 Nice, I was just going to ask if this information was around. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Great thread......its ineresting to see the death of snowfall in march Perhaps since we're in at a similar point in the decadal cycle as we were during the early 1950's could we get back to great Marches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Absolutely. You still have two very bad snow decades / 67% of the new figure. If someone were to ask me what NYC CPK's average annual snowfall was, I'd say about 28 inches... This ties into my belief in using longer base periods (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Nice, I was just going to ask if this information was around. Thanks. it's do it yourself so it's not official... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Although I don't live in the city proper, hearing that # quoted made me quite literally sick.... Not as sick as hearing the same number quoted for ISP. Thats gonna take longer to adjust since the record is still full of errors in the early 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 For here, Colts Neck, the 2001-2010 period has been spectacular. November: Trace December: 9.6" January: 6.5" February: 14.0" March: 4.5" April: 0.7" December has been great, with only 2 Decs having 0 snowfall, February has been amazing, only 2 Febs with 0 snowfall, January a little below average, but we've managed measurable snow in all but 1 Jan. March has been decent, with the MECS of March 2009 helping the average. Average for the decade: 35.3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I did't count this December in the averages...The season runs from October to May...The seasonal average is slightly different from using average monthly norms...I think smoothed normals are idiotic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I did't count this December in the averages...The season runs from October to May...The seasonal average is slightly different from using average monthly norms...I think smoothed normals are idiotic.. Uncle W, the smoothed normals seem to slightly increase the totals for some reason. My 30-year seasonal avg 1980/81-2009/10 is now 28.4", and my 30-year smoothed normal is an impressive 29.6". We may need to start thinking about totals more similar to the 1870-1910 period in this area, considering the decadal trend in oscillations and more importantly the Dalton/Maunder like solar minimum. I definitely believe that NYC's average is closer to 28-29", and the 25-26" is still reflective of a couple poor decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 We may need to start thinking about totals more similar to the 1870-1910 period in this area, considering the decadal trend in oscillations and more importantly the Dalton/Maunder like solar minimum. i'm wondering when was the last time we had this much of a concentration of big snowstorms.... say 12"+ i see there were good snow years in the late 1800s...... but how many big storms were there? i'm really getting addicted to the big storms. 2000-2010: 7 storms of 14" or more 1970-1999: 3 storms of 14" or more. (middlesex county) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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