famartin Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 EWR is down to 13 at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 As Tony noted, the models have been keeping too much cold air at the surface, they're not mixing the warmer air down enough. We'll see. Not just the nam (time sensitive), according to the gfs (model not mos) PHL's high today with a +8C 850mb temp is suppose to be 35: http://wxweb.meteostar.com/sample/sample.shtml?text=kphl&submit.x=8&submit.y=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Most places running 4-8 above this time yesterday. Some places are close to 50 (ACY is 49 I believe). The oddball is JFK with the wind off the water, which is actually 1 degree cooler. Water trumps snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Snow depth here has only gone down from 25" to about 20". Many places in the yard still holding onto 28-30" depths. My overnight lows have been very cold since the blizzard: 26th: 24.2 27th: 19.9 28th: 23.8 29th: 11.5 30th: 7.1 Temps today looked like they'd make a run for 50, but clouds ruined the party once again. High reached 47.1 briefly, before slipping back into the low-mid 40s. 39.2 now. Certainly doesn't look like we're going to see the grass any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Most places running 4-8 above this time yesterday. Some places are close to 50 (ACY is 49 I believe). The oddball is JFK with the wind off the water, which is actually 1 degree cooler. Water trumps snow For TTN, looks like they only hit 45-46 today due to cloud cover. Weekend temps seem to be lowered a bit from yesterday, now only 46, 47 respectively for TTN. The lack of 50+ temps so far this winter has been remarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-X Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Snow depth here has only gone down from 25" to about 20". Many places in the yard still holding onto 28-30" depths. My overnight lows have been very cold since the blizzard: 26th: 24.2 27th: 19.9 28th: 23.8 29th: 11.5 30th: 7.1 Temps today looked like they'd make a run for 50, but clouds ruined the party once again. High reached 47.1 briefly, before slipping back into the low-mid 40s. 39.2 now. Certainly doesn't look like we're going to see the grass any time soon. Single digits? Wow, its been like 20 degrees warmer than that here! And I still have about 18 inches snow cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 For TTN, looks like they only hit 45-46 today due to cloud cover. Weekend temps seem to be lowered a bit from yesterday, now only 46, 47 respectively for TTN. The lack of 50+ temps so far this winter has been remarkable. If you are going by MOS, it often underdoes highs just ahead of a cold front. So 50 is still in the cards tomorrow, no doubt. MOS numbers are actually warmer for NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Snow depth here has only gone down from 25" to about 20". Many places in the yard still holding onto 28-30" depths. My overnight lows have been very cold since the blizzard: 26th: 24.2 27th: 19.9 28th: 23.8 29th: 11.5 30th: 7.1 Temps today looked like they'd make a run for 50, but clouds ruined the party once again. High reached 47.1 briefly, before slipping back into the low-mid 40s. 39.2 now. Certainly doesn't look like we're going to see the grass any time soon. Bring golf clubs for Iso's backyard. Nevermind, Happy New Year ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpsonsbuff Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 If you are going by MOS, it often underdoes highs just ahead of a cold front. So 50 is still in the cards tomorrow, no doubt. MOS numbers are actually warmer for NYC. Feels like summer days out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Feels like summer days out there... Its actually enjoyable, since we know that this is only a 3 day shot as opposed to a complete 2 or 3 week pattern change. Had this been the much discussed Nina flip to mild, today would be very depressing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 50+ club as of 11AM EST: NEL MJX ACY MIV MPO DOV WWD GED ESN W29 Mainly coastal plain sites so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 50+ club as of 11AM EST: NEL MJX ACY MIV MPO DOV WWD GED ESN W29 Mainly coastal plain sites so far. Additions to the list as of Noon EST: TTN WRI VAY LOM BLM PTW MMU NYC LGA FWN AVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Mini torch today....impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 50+ club as of 11AM EST: NEL MJX ACY MIV MPO DOV WWD GED ESN W29 Mainly coastal plain sites so far. Additions to the list as of Noon EST: TTN WRI VAY LOM BLM PTW MMU NYC LGA FWN AVP Additions to the list as of 1PM EST: DYL PNE NXX SMQ PHL CDW 12N ILG MQS RDG LNS HPN MGJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Mini torch today....impressive. warmer in Boston at 53-54 degrees at noon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz299 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 50+ club as of 11AM EST: NEL MJX ACY MIV MPO DOV WWD GED ESN W29 Mainly coastal plain sites so far. Max. so far here in Cape May 52°. Probably will be the max. too due to increasing clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Max. so far here in Cape May 52°. Probably will be the max. too due to increasing clouds. Nice to have another COOP observer on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I'm at 53F, what an early springlike way to start off January, tomorrow should be rather mild too, then back to seasonal values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 The 50+ club as of 11AM EST: NEL MJX ACY MIV MPO DOV WWD GED ESN W29 Mainly coastal plain sites so far. Additions to the list as of Noon EST: TTN WRI VAY LOM BLM PTW MMU NYC LGA FWN AVP Additions to the list as of 1PM EST: DYL PNE NXX SMQ PHL CDW 12N ILG MQS RDG LNS HPN MGJ Additions to the list as of 2PM EST: ABE EWR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I wish you had this much enthusiasm for cold weather... I do! I just keep it in the obs threads. I wouldn't care normally about a random day in the 50s in January... but my thoughts on most places seeing 50 degree readings were challenged, so now I'm vindicating myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBG Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 Yeah I think we can have snow cover for a while...not that much will melt this weekend and then we have a sustained period of below average temperatures. At least my part of the county is already having significant melt. And for ngihttime temperature purposes old snow radiates a lot less well than new snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Final highs today: TTN 53 DYL 51 PNE 53 NXX 51 WRI 54 VAY 56 SMQ 50 LOM 52 NEL 56 UKT 48 PHL 54 (snow depth T) MJX 57 BLM 57 PTW 54 MMU 52 ABE 50 EWR 51 (snow depth 7) CDW 51 12N 51 TEB 49 (snow depth 2) NYC 53 ACY 58 (snow depth 6) ILG 56 LGA 52 (snow depth 3) MQS 52 JFK 43 (snow depth 5) RDG 52 MIV 54 MPO 55 FWN 53 LNS 50 HPN 50 FRG 46 DOV 56 AVP 53 WWD 57 MGJ 50 SWF 48 MUI 47 ISP 46 (snow depth 4) GED 58 ESN 57 W29 54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Ray, good call for today. I hit 56.6 here. MOS busted by a good 10 degrees! Was out in a t-shirt shoveling a trail in the backyard for the dogs, couldn't believe how mild it felt. Snow depth took a decent hit but I'm still at about 16-17", so it looks like I'll definitely keep 12"+ by the time the cold air returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Bring golf clubs for Iso's backyard. Nevermind, Happy New Year ! Happy New Year Tony! Once the top of this snow freezes Sunday night, we'll be able to finally drive the ball 400 yards like we've always wanted to, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Final highs today: TTN 53 DYL 51 PNE 53 NXX 51 WRI 54 VAY 56 SMQ 50 LOM 52 NEL 56 UKT 48 PHL 54 (snow depth T) MJX 57 BLM 57 PTW 54 MMU 52 ABE 50 EWR 51 (snow depth 7) CDW 51 12N 51 TEB 49 (snow depth 2) NYC 53 ACY 58 (snow depth 6) ILG 56 LGA 52 (snow depth 3) MQS 52 JFK 43 (snow depth 5) RDG 52 MIV 54 MPO 55 FWN 53 LNS 50 HPN 50 FRG 46 DOV 56 AVP 53 WWD 57 MGJ 50 SWF 48 MUI 47 ISP 46 (snow depth 4) GED 58 ESN 57 W29 54 Amazing difference Newark vs here snow depth when we had basically the same total. It's all about those nights; after the sun sets I'm below freezing within an hour or so. At EWR it takes much of the night to fall sub freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Ray, good call for today. I hit 56.6 here. MOS busted by a good 10 degrees! Was out in a t-shirt shoveling a trail in the backyard for the dogs, couldn't believe how mild it felt. Snow depth took a decent hit but I'm still at about 16-17", so it looks like I'll definitely keep 12"+ by the time the cold air returns. High was 51.5F here in Southern Westchester...currently 46/42, not going to get below freezing tonight unfortunately. Snow depth looks to be around 8" here, so we're going to end up with about 6" remaining after the cold front moves through tomorrow night. Definitely plenty of chances to replenish it in the next two weeks. Once again, the NWS forecast is totally ridiculous. A high of 40F with rain showers on Tuesday? With 850s of -8C and a weak clipper generating cloud cover? Don't think so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 High was 51.5F here in Southern Westchester...currently 46/42, not going to get below freezing tonight unfortunately. Snow depth looks to be around 8" here, so we're going to end up with about 6" remaining after the cold front moves through tomorrow night. Definitely plenty of chances to replenish it in the next two weeks. Once again, the NWS forecast is totally ridiculous. A high of 40F with rain showers on Tuesday? With 850s of -8C and a weak clipper generating cloud cover? Don't think so.... is the clipper progged to pass north of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 is the clipper progged to pass north of you? Yeah, I mean it's barely even a clipper...just a weak 1010mb low passing through the Great Lakes and leaving some snow showers in its wake. Thinking we're around 36/37F on Tuesday with cloud cover, snow cover, and a weak southerly flow. NWS has 38F Wednesday, which is even more absurd...850s drop to around -13C after the clipper. We're probably looking at upper 20s at best for the day.. I have to wonder if there is some global warming bias to their forecasts because I've noticed the NWS consistently forecasts temperatures being close to normal even when we're in a cold spell like we had mid-December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Yeah, I mean it's barely even a clipper...just a weak 1010mb low passing through the Great Lakes and leaving some snow showers in its wake. Thinking we're around 36/37F on Tuesday with cloud cover, snow cover, and a weak southerly flow. NWS has 38F Wednesday, which is even more absurd...850s drop to around -13C after the clipper. We're probably looking at upper 20s at best for the day.. I have to wonder if there is some global warming bias to their forecasts because I've noticed the NWS consistently forecasts temperatures being close to normal even when we're in a cold spell like we had mid-December. yea i really haven't looked at that clipper at all, and didn't even know it was that weak. I was going to say if it was stronger and progged north of you i could see the southerly flow torching the bl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 yea i really haven't looked at that clipper at all, and didn't even know it was that weak. I was going to say if it was stronger and progged north of you i could see the southerly flow torching the bl. Yeah, I would be more concerned about hitting 40F if the clipper was stronger but it looks anemic at this point. 850s stay in the -7C range so we're not talking about a warm airmass, and we'll still have the snow cover and passing clouds to battle incoming solar radiation. I'm thinking this entire week is going to be much colder than forecast....going for high temps of 34, 37, 28, 30, 27 (Monday-Friday) here in Southern Westchester. Well below normal looks to continue following a brief "torch." Getting excited for a Miller B threat this weekend and then a potential arctic spell as the -EPO block builds in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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