tombo82685 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Tom, does it throw any precip west of the cities? your area gets .5-.75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAM22 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 wow it shows 1 inch for philly, wow so showing around 10inches snow for philly, strange how philly has the most? hmm...this is pretty awesome considering its the first real "hit" its shown on the cities, nice numbers for being a hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daxx Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 your area gets .5-.75 Thanks Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 It's interesting to see the storm signal on both models though they get there in different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 How about east of the cities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Euro looks interesting again at 204, huge ridge coming on shore out west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 How about east of the cities? you do better with qpf, the 850s are fine, but you may have some bl issues. Its hard to say cause my 2m temps are not great on the euro for coastal areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormman Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 sounds like Dt is starting to get excited as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 sounds like Dt is starting to get excited as well. He already started getting excited on his facebook page after yesterday's 12z Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Euro looks interesting again at 204, huge ridge coming on shore out west i wonder if that one tries to cut here. Its dropping the pv on the back side and pumping the ridge a good bit out ahead of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 i wonder if that one tries to cut here. Its dropping the pv on the back side and pumping the ridge a good bit out ahead of it. Yeah it actually doesnt suprise me that it cuts, being that the euro is showing a bomb off the coast before it that probly breaks down the -NAO, an active pattern for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Jan 6-- a thursday right, January 6...La Nina...just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 im not sure if this euro solution is correct yet. Its ejecting out the sw energy way faster than any other model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Uh oh, another Eagles cancellation if this storm is delayed a day or two. wow it shows 1 inch for philly, wow so showing around 10inches snow for philly, strange how philly has the most? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 im not sure if this euro solution is correct yet. Its ejecting out the sw energy way faster than any other model yeah kinda weird its ejecting the s/w out faster because its bias is to hold it back..The GFS just sits the s/w wave over the SW and spins it, while it shows us getting a miller B system from the northern stream only.. maybe the euro is onto something here though who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Well damnit, here we go again. I think Tony (rainshadow) can probably help out with this, but I heard a little nugget this week that said that PHL has received 20 12"-or-greater snowstorms in its recorded weather history. 7 of these storms have occurred since 2003, and 4 have occurred in the last 54 weeks. If true, that's amazing. I have to look up the number (Carl had the table), get it on here later. There have been alot of recent events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Interesting pattern continuing alternating between GL/MW storm tracks and EC tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bliz299 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Well damnit, here we go again. I think Tony (rainshadow) can probably help out with this, but I heard a little nugget this week that said that PHL has received 20 12"-or-greater snowstorms in its recorded weather history. 7 of these storms have occurred since 2003, and 4 have occurred in the last 54 weeks. If true, that's amazing. Thought I would post what I found on Mt. Holly's website. Note it's for the Philly Area, not specifically the AP. The data for Philadelphia Inter. AP only goes back to 1940 and is less impressive. Also the list is for 1 day and probably not storm totals. Perhaps Rainshadow can help us in that regard. Philadelphia Area (ThreadEx Station) Extremes Highest Daily Snowfall (inches) Days: 1/1 - 12/31 Length of period: 1 day Years: 1884-2011 Rank Value Ending Date 1 27.6 1/7/1996 2 22.5 12/19/2009 3 21.9 2/6/2010 4 21.1 2/11/1983 5 19.0 4/3/1915 6 16.0 2/16/2003 7 15.5 12/26/1909 8 13.9 2/19/1979 9 12.4 2/6/1978, 12/24/1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Looks like another NYC east Jersey special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 GGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I guess this justifies an every run tracking of the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 im not sure if this euro solution is correct yet. Its ejecting out the sw energy way faster than any other model Its odd, it actually transposes the closed lows over the west, the ca one goes ne, the bc one goes se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptb127 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Interesting pattern continuing alternating between GL/MW storm tracks and EC tracks. Not if you're being missed by both tracks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSU2 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Interesting pattern continuing alternating between GL/MW storm tracks and EC tracks. Interesting way to run a strong La Nina. Have a feeling more fun and games ahead. ERIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Its odd, it actually transposes the closed lows over the west, the ca one goes ne, the bc one goes se. phl looks to run a -4.5 or so departure for the month of dec, thats impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 What was the last year we had a strong Nina and several coastal storms/above avg snowfall in the PHL area? 95-96? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Not if you're being missed by both tracks.... That's a tough spot . Interesting way to run a strong La Nina. Have a feeling more fun and games ahead. ERIC Yeah,we got some hints of this when LI picked up the early November snow following the late October record setting Minnesota low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptb127 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Out of curiousity, you've got 700 feet of elevation on Scranton but are a decent distance to their south. AVP averaged about 50" of snow annually in the old days...I would guess the elevation would make up for the loss of latitude and your mean would be greater than 50"? We have no official reporting station here so I have to go by the closest, which is KAVP. KABE is about 10 miles or so further away then KAVP so I use that one. Scranton is about 30 minutes to the north of Hazleton. We only got 3" from that last storm when they received less then 1". We do end better overall with each storm, snowfall wise, then Scranton for most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grothar Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 Out of curiousity, you've got 700 feet of elevation on Scranton but are a decent distance to their south. AVP averaged about 50" of snow annually in the old days...I would guess the elevation would make up for the loss of latitude and your mean would be greater than 50"? I luv when you say old days. I guess being screwed on every storm event since 2003, it would seem old. ABE is joining you guys this year as being screwed in the snowfall record books, I guess the snowiest place in PA is no longer near Erie but in Philly. I swear this is not a La Nina year but an El Nino year and a La Nada year for us north of the PA turnpike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 We have no official reporting station here so I have to go by the closest, which is KAVP. KABE is about 10 miles or so further away then KAVP so I use that one. Scranton is about 30 minutes to the north of Hazleton. We only got 3" from that last storm when they received less then 1". We do end better overall with each storm, snowfall wise, then Scranton for most cases. I would have to think eventually that overrunning and cutting storms will return this winter, they just have to in strong Ninas like this. When that happens you guys are at least in the game for front end snows and ice. Maybe some clippers can also be beneficial, since they were usually the only kind of storm to regularly overperform in central PA when I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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