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Upstate NY/North Country Winter Thread II


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Is that some lake effect off of erie embedded in the SN- from the synoptic storm? There is a thin band of higher returns located east of Toronto. Interesting.

It's actually the L. Ontario band from earlier in the day that retrograded and sat over the center of the lake....then the weak souther llv flow shoved it north-north westward....

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man this is frustrating. Every storm is missing us to the south, or at least almost every storm. :angry: I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the storm this upcoming week also missed us. At this rate, I'm doubtful that Ottawa will make it's seasonal snowfall (90"). It would be nice if we could get a brief burst of snow with arctic front tomorrow.

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man this is frustrating. Every storm is missing us to the south, or at least almost every storm. :angry: I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the storm this upcoming week also missed us. At this rate, I'm doubtful that Ottawa will make it's seasonal snowfall (90"). It would be nice if we could get a brief burst of snow with arctic front tomorrow.

I have kept the belief that every year we get AT LEAST 1 BIG synoptic storm. I have given up on that belief as of now. Still all of February and March left though.

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man this is frustrating. Every storm is missing us to the south, or at least almost every storm. :angry: I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if the storm this upcoming week also missed us. At this rate, I'm doubtful that Ottawa will make it's seasonal snowfall (90"). It would be nice if we could get a brief burst of snow with arctic front tomorrow.

hang in there

but to be honest i dont see much hope.

its an epic snow drought for sure that began in jan 2009.

this year seems even worse, as every storm seem makes it to the international border, but apparently they all need passports to cross this year, is there some sort of new law that Immigration passed? cant even scrape out an inch from these 'scraper' storms this year :arrowhead:

just take comfort in knowing that noone is getting more hosed than you :lol:

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Hmmm...

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Syracuse&state=NY&site=BGM&lat=43.0446&lon=-76.1459

Friday: Snow. High near 24. West wind between 6 and 16 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 7 inches possible.

Friday Night: Snow showers. Low around 8. Wind chill values as low as -3. West wind between 9 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

:huh:

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Was surprised to see KSYR w/ the January snowfall total it has. Then I added up mine and they are similar. Doesn't seem like we've had that much snow in January but its been a frequent light/moderate snow feed, mainly from L.O. The 12Z WRF from KBUF looks juicy for No. Onondaga & So. Oswego counties...we'll see if it plays out that way. This latest synoptic snow looks like another yawner for CNY. I think it would be interesting if KSYR could make a run at the seasonal snowfall record (192") w/o ever getting a synoptic snowfall of more than 4 or 5 inches...which is (I think) the most we've had thusfar. I'm kind of rooting for that outcome now - just to say we did it. GooFuS is offering that prospect w/ a steady supply of coastal systems that deliver nada up here for the foreseeable future.

Rogue snow band over SW Oswego county today...drove into it heading from Oswego down towards Syracuse this afternoon - quite unexpected.

The CIMSS satellite blog has a nice write-up and imagery on today's lake effect band off L Ontario. The ice flows which show up near the St Lawrence R are very cool! http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/blog/

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hang in there

but to be honest i dont see much hope.

its an epic snow drought for sure that began in jan 2009.

this year seems even worse, as every storm seem makes it to the international border, but apparently they all need passports to cross this year, is there some sort of new law that Immigration passed? cant even scrape out an inch from these 'scraper' storms this year :arrowhead:

just take comfort in knowing that noone is getting more hosed than you :lol:

Checked some traffic cameras and Toronto is deffinately getting snowed on. At the rate we're going, Toronto may finish the season with more snow than Ottawa!!

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That ridge of high pressure is going to be very strong..... Looks to be 1040 mb - 1050 mb.... During the Overnight Sunday; some places in Northern NY could see -30 or lower.

Totally agree. I'm thinking Sunday night the 'Dacks to GFL will be -20 to -30F and Sunday's highs only in the low and mid digits and Monday not much better +/- a couple to few degrees of 10.

There will also be an arctic boundary sliding south across NNY during Saturday night and Sunday morning. Could be some excellent LES with it along the S and E shores of LO and off of LE up across BUF to IAG, too.

This high too will likely induce an inverted trough along the SEUS coast by Tuesday. This trough will in turn act as the "highway for the system next week to move along it or redevelop in it (around Cape Lookout).

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My areas is in the worst screwzone of all wrt snyoptic snows. (Buffalo)

and lake Erie wil be frozen solid by this weekend :devilsmiley:

TEMPERATURES ARE

EXPECTED TO BE STUCK IN THE SINGLE DIGITS...AND MAY NOT REACH ZERO

EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO. THEN SUNDAY NIGHT AN EXTREME RADIATIONAL

COOLING EVENT WILL PLAY OUT WITH LIGHT WINDS...HIGH PRESSURE...A

FRESH SNOW PACK AND CLEAR SKIES OVER PORTIONS OF THE REGION. THIS

IS A CLASSIC SETUP THAT WILL ALLOW TEMPERATURES TO PLUMMET TO NEAR

30 BELOW ZERO EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO. ALL OF WESTERN AND CENTRAL NY

THOUGH WILL DROP BELOW ZERO THOUGH.

:shiver:

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and lake Erie wil be frozen solid by this weekend :devilsmiley:

Unfortunately "the big pond" Lake Erie is just about frozen over. We are somehow managing to get some LES bands in NE OH... but very limited compared to what it could be with open lake. Most likely these bands have an upstream connection to L MI.

What I wouldn't give to have the depths of the other lakes so we can benefit from late season LES.

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LES Warning now issued for the entire southern LO shoreline. Anyone have the NAM/WRF/RUC model QPF maps?

This would be a prime example of why LES watches and warning should take on the same format that Severe Thunderstorms have recently acquired. The Southern half of nearly all of these counties could likely see less than 2 inches from the entire event. It just seems that these highly mesoscale events should have more precise warning system...oh well.

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