Discuss the Blizz of 2010 - Part II

[HoarfrostHubb]

Event Final: 12"

Event final ... 9.0"

3rd biggest snow total!!! .... of 2010

2 others in late Feb beat this.

[DomNH]

Event final ... 9.0"

3rd biggest snow total!!! .... of 2010

2 others in late Feb beat this.

This was my biggest storm of 2010...had 8.2'' in January.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

Exactly...TV reports mean nothing to me

The easton report should, it came from a meteorologist's father who probably knows how to measure and has been doing it for 20+ years in the same spot.

[HoarfrostHubb]

The easton report should, it came from a meteorologist's father who probably knows how to measure and has been doing it for 20+ years in the same spot.

I would believe that. My brother in Foxboro measured 18.0"

[ski MRG]

Left the house @ 6am, 10.5" new, 6:10am base of the abandoned Berkshire Snow Basin 14" new, skinned up to summit in +sn, 7:05am 17.5". Nice plush powder run, back to truck. Shot over to Berkshire East for first lift. Skied untracked pow for a couple hours.General 12" snowfall at base 14-15" up top. The Eastern edge of the double digits band seems to have been on a SW to NE oriented line from West Otis>Becket>Washington>Peru>West Worthington>West Chesterfield>West Cummington>Ashfield>Charlemont. The 2k site has about 20", won't know exactly until tomorrow AM for sure, leave that mess until tomorrow to clean up. Post Mortem: Good Storm, wind was impressive but really ground everything to smithereens. Sporadic power outages. Can't remember ever seeing such evidence of the effects of banding up here. Wouldn't have guessed my Mom in Columbia County, NY would have gotten 20+" but that's weather. Final tally here at the homestead, just over 12". Yard looks nice with the new snow. Next.

[Typhoon Tip]

OH MY GOD that 312 hour 12Z "deterministic" GFS solution is hotter than this:

Edit - eh, maybe that picture isn't a good idea...

[mahk_webstah]

Pattern does not look bad after the torch. Maybe we don't track a 963mb monster, but it does not look bad.

I'm happy to be done with coastals and retrograders for a while. It is now officially SWFE season although I expect we get at least another big coastal this year. I say this because I think Don S. research and other research I believe I've seen in HM's thread indicate that a blocking episode as severe as the one we just experienced would mean that another blocking episode will come later in the winter. These blocking episodes almost always bring a bit coastal or threat of one. They don't always get up here as we too painfully know but they come when we have that kind of blocking.

[weathafella]

18.2 for BOS makes this the biggest storm since Jan 2005 and ties the Jan 96 total. I believe 96 and 2010 are tied in 4th place of snow events in the past 30 years.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

OH MY GOD that 312 hour 12Z "deterministic" GFS solution is hotter than this:

La Nina = No Hecs

Looks like fun right now midway up Sunday river....brrrrrrr

[Ginx snewx]

What the he'll is that on radar sigs nearORH?

[amarshall]

I only got 28 mph gusts last night and it was well over 50. Now I know why. Thick layer of ice on it

[weathafella]

Maybe we can squeeze out another 0.5 from one of these renegade echoes to move ahead of '96....

[Typhoon Tip]

La Nina = No Hecs

Don't even get me started with that ...

[weathafella]

My winter forecast is 1/3 of the way to verification for BOS.

[ski MRG]

OH MY GOD that 312 hour 12Z "deterministic" GFS solution is hotter than this:

Edit - eh, maybe that picture isn't a good idea...

So we know what you spend at least 1/2 your time at the computer doing. Here I thought you were busy researching east coast cyclogenesis.lol

[Clinch Leatherwood]

Don't even get me started with that ...

LOL

Whatever pattern we've been in - and I'm convinced there are larger patterns involved than we even fully understand right now, the propensity for monster east coast storms is kind of cool. We just need one to close off between ACK and around the BM and we'll all be in great shape and happy.

To have 3-4 storms of this magnitude in 12-15 months is pretty epic. Just not the results for SNE we'd have liked.

Maybe there is a reason the blizzard of 1978 in all its glory was 978 and not 965....the stronger lows end up west.

[40/70 Benchmark]

18.2 for BOS makes this the biggest storm since Jan 2005 and ties the Jan 96 total. I believe 96 and 2010 are tied in 4th place of snow events in the past 30 years.

Jerry, did this remind you an event out of Jan-Feb 1994....it had that appeal to me because outside of the immediate shore and se MA, it was a fairly forgettable 1' event....there were a couple like that during that season.

[SC48]

It's going to be really hard for National Weather Service to make a snowfall map out of this one. The snowlines were so sharp, they'll be using 5-6" lines from town to town.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

My winter forecast is 1/3 of the way to verification for BOS.

I would guess the canal area cannot average more than 30" a year, I'm probably at about 17-19" now depending on who would measure and 700' to my west it's easily 20" without debate.

Not January 1st yet and I'm 2/3 to average.

Kev has already locked in 1/12, so life is good.

[DomNH]

I'm happy to be done with coastals and retrograders for a while. It is now officially SWFE season although I expect we get at least another big coastal this year. I say this because I think Don S. research and other research I believe I've seen in HM's thread indicate that a blocking episode as severe as the one we just experienced would mean that another blocking episode will come later in the winter. These blocking episodes almost always bring a bit coastal or threat of one. They don't always get up here as we too painfully know but they come when we have that kind of blocking.

I hear ya...we clean up in SWFEs.

[cpickett79]

I think I backed down to 8-16" for you, 12" ain't bad if thats how it worked out.

The 18-24" around easton brockton stoughton is legit, was just looking at photos and I know 3 or 4 people that measured around 20"

They are the SNE snow capitol for non hills.

the damage driving thru my old neighbor hood in raynham was visible. fallen trees as well as large branches all over the place. looked like 14 or so based on eyeballing the side of the snowblower path and accounting for 10-15% settling.

i just wish we had that caked snow look here in framingham.....guess that's what happens when you get half to 2/5'th the qpf and high ratio's.

[powderfreak]

Here is another pic with my hedges int he background..all fooked up. Apparently, the whole back is a 3-6' drift.

What I really want to do is jump up on that deck railing and start pulling gainers into that drift, lol. That is just begging to be jumped into in that photo.

Storm final obs for me:

Anywhere from 10-12" out here just south of ALB. Not even going to try to come up with an exact measurement. Still gusting over 40mph with incredible blowing and drifting. Better than expected for this location.

[40/70 Benchmark]

LOL

Whatever pattern we've been in - and I'm convinced there are larger patterns involved than we even fully understand right now, the propensity for monster east coast storms is kind of cool. We just need one to close off between ACK and around the BM and we'll all be in great shape and happy.

To have 3-4 storms of this magnitude in 12-15 months is pretty epic. Just not the results for SNE we'd have liked.

Maybe there is a reason the blizzard of 1978 in all its glory was 978 and not 965....the stronger lows end up west.

That is a fallacy becuase the blizz of 1978 was in fact a little more intense than this; the central pressure was not as low simply because it occured in a regime of higher atmospheric pressure.

The low was only 984mb because it was coupled with a 1050mb high.

[SC48]

That's true. A 1052 MB high to the northwest and a 984 MB low to the southeast will cause a far tighter wind gradient.

[bch2014]

What does SWFE stand for?

[Typhoon Tip]

LOL

Whatever pattern we've been in - and I'm convinced there are larger patterns involved than we even fully understand right now, the propensity for monster east coast storms is kind of cool. We just need one to close off between ACK and around the BM and we'll all be in great shape and happy.

To have 3-4 storms of this magnitude in 12-15 months is pretty epic. Just not the results for SNE we'd have liked.

Maybe there is a reason the blizzard of 1978 in all its glory was 978 and not 965....the stronger lows end up west.

One aspect of 1978 you have keep in mind is that it was up against a 1050 mb high up eastern Manatoba that had an arm of high pressure into N New E. The ambient surface pressure was higher than normal overall throughout everywhere, so that 978mb measure is a little misleading actually. There was an incredible pressure gradient in that storm - some 70mbs worth! As a general rule of them you have 1 kt / 1mb, to a very close approximation will be the resulting wind field. So they went through 72kt of potential on that.

[MaineJayhawk]

What does SWFE stand for?

Southwest Flow Event.

[40/70 Benchmark]

One aspect of 1978 you have keep in mind is that it was up against a 1050 mb high up eastern Manatoba that had an arm of high pressure into N New E. The ambient surface pressure was higher than normal overall throughout everywhere, so that 978mb measure is a little misleading actually. There was an incredible pressure gradient in that storm - some 70mbs worth! As a general rule of them you have 1 kt / 1mb, to a very close approximation will be the resulting wind field. So they went through 72kt of potential on that.

Exactly.....984-1048mb max gradient=64mb gradient...we had like 56-58mb gradient in association with this system.

[Boston-winter08]

Southwest Flow Event.

so storms that track through the southern Ohio valley and over NYC?

[Kbosch]

Wow, that 1/10-1/11 event looks promising

I wonder how much of this snow will succumb to the torch. With the way it looks I'm guessing at least 3/4.