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Discuss the Blizz of 2010 - Part II


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Yea, I went out for some hot and sour soup from Chinese ...more just to be a dork and drive around in it and needing an excuse to do so - haha - and was pretty amazed that even here at an elevation of 190 feet, which qualifies as a valley, this was a horizontal storm. We never really S+ed here in Ayer, but the wind made a moderate snow 1/4 vis on many occasions. I don't believe I verified a blizzard here locally.

Hah :lol: that's too bad. I bet we did here.

Some updated totals around me. As usual, Bridgeport is too low. You're telling me they had 8 last night and only added 4 in 11 or so hours? Right...

CONNECTICUT

...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...

WILTON 18.0 830 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

GREENWICH 17.0 700 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

NORWALK 16.0 910 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

DANBURY 14.1 800 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER

BRIDGEPORT 12.0 900 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER

NEW CANAAN 11.0 830 PM 12/26 PUBLIC

COS COB 10.0 1100 PM 12/26 PUBLIC

STAMFORD 10.0 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

EDIT: look at the times of the last 3 and imagine what they added and will have a storm total of!

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Just once we need to have the mid level lows to our S or SE when they stall...been too many years and its amazing there has been this many in 15 months and all have been not yet ideal here.

...BERGEN COUNTY...

LYNDHURST 29.0 230 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

GARFIELD 21.8 331 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

RIDGEWOOD 17.5 622 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

MAHWAH 17.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

NORTH ARLINGTON 16.3 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

SADDLE BROOK 15.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

RAMSEY 15.0 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

WASHINGTON TOWNSHIP 14.5 1010 PM 12/26 PUBLIC

TENAFLY 11.6 1100 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

CRESSKILL 11.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

HASBROUCK HEIGHTS 11.4 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

TEANECK 10.8 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

RIVER EDGE 10.5 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

ORADELL 10.2 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ESSEX COUNTY...

VERONA 23.0 500 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

MILLBURN 20.0 1215 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

NEWARK AIRPORT 20.0 107 AM 12/27 FAA CONTRACT OBSERVER

CEDAR GROVE 19.8 1210 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

BELLEVILLE 19.4 1130 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

WEST ORANGE 17.0 1200 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

...HUDSON COUNTY...

HARRISON 25.0 415 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER

JERSEY CITY 16.0 1100 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

KEARNY 15.0 1030 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PASSAIC COUNTY...

HASKELL 24.5 200 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

WEST MILFORD 22.0 415 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

Only problem with those bands, is that somebody 40 miles away is epic screwed. Hackettstown NJ had 5.5"!!! That is rafter worthy when 40 miles east gets over 2'.

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Hah :lol: that's too bad. I bet we did here.

Some updated totals around me. As usual, Bridgeport is too low. You're telling me they had 8 last night and only added 4 in 11 or so hours? Right...

CONNECTICUT

...FAIRFIELD COUNTY...

WILTON 18.0 830 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

GREENWICH 17.0 700 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

NORWALK 16.0 910 AM 12/27 PUBLIC

DANBURY 14.1 800 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER

BRIDGEPORT 12.0 900 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER

NEW CANAAN 11.0 830 PM 12/26 PUBLIC

COS COB 10.0 1100 PM 12/26 PUBLIC

STAMFORD 10.0 1000 PM 12/26 TRAINED SPOTTER

EDIT: look at the times of the last 3 and imagine what they added and will have a storm total of!

Looks like some people measured in drifts. No way we have 17 inches here. I'd say more like a foot. This storm will be remembered for the winds more than snowfall.

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Looks like some people measured in drifts. No way we have 17 inches here. I'd say more like a foot. This storm will be remembered for the winds more than snowfall.

Where is "here"? I had about 16. Those totals make perfect sense to me. How are you deriving your total? Drifts are up to 3 or 4 feet in some spots.

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Only problem with those bands, is that somebody 40 miles away is epic screwed. Hackettstown NJ had 5.5"!!! That is rafter worthy when 40 miles east gets over 2'.

You hit the nail on the head in terms of what went "wrong" for a massive area of snow. This came down to banding and it was feast or famine outside of the initial main shot. Either you were in them (weatherfella) or you weren't (ray). It's a historic event in the immediate boston area SW, is one of the most damaging storms along the coast here in ages in terms of beach erosion/seawall damage and was a general bomb.

What it didn't have in one sense last night is the +6 or +8 850mb temps trying to slam into Boston from the SE while wedging up against the cold air that was in place. Instead I stayed mostly frozen/frozen mix, warmer 850s were deflected way east and we had a fairly large area of -4 to 2-4 over a lot of miles. Rudimentary, but not the hallmark of the usual blizzards here where you need that super sharp gradient, the S so to speak. Esp around those layers there wasn't a tremendous push like we sometimes see. If I had a driving rain and was at 40 last night a lot of you would have faired better.

They had that in NJ!

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I have a friend that lives in hough's neck, can you share a link please?

http://www.patriotledger.com/homepage/breaking/x1148223370/Blizzard-forces-evacuations-along-the-coast

Streets along the water in the Houghs Neck section of Quincy were closed overnight. Police and firefighters used boats and front-end loaders to rescue people. Sea Street remained impassable as of 7 a.m.
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Anybody know about Hartford area amounts?

As of 10:07...

...HARTFORD COUNTY...

BURLINGTON 11.0 543 AM 12/27 SPOTTER

WETHERSFIELD 8.0 1050 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

WINDSOR LOCKS 7.9 100 AM 12/27 BRADLEY INTL AIRPORT

NORTH GRANBY 7.3 804 AM 12/27

ROCKY HILL 7.0 918 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO

MANCHESTER 7.0 100 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO

SOUTH WINDSOR 7.0 640 AM 12/27 SPOTTER

GRANBY 6.5 557 AM 12/27 SPOTTER

WEST HARTFORD 6.5 242 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO

MARLBORO 5.3 942 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

SIMSBURY 4.0 737 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

FARMINGTON 4.0 828 PM 12/26 SPOTTER

SUFFIELD 3.5 731 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

ENFIELD 3.5 732 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

GLASTONBURY 2.5 731 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

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As of 10:07...

...HARTFORD COUNTY...

BURLINGTON 11.0 543 AM 12/27 SPOTTER

WETHERSFIELD 8.0 1050 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

WINDSOR LOCKS 7.9 100 AM 12/27 BRADLEY INTL AIRPORT

NORTH GRANBY 7.3 804 AM 12/27

ROCKY HILL 7.0 918 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO

MANCHESTER 7.0 100 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO

SOUTH WINDSOR 7.0 640 AM 12/27 SPOTTER

GRANBY 6.5 557 AM 12/27 SPOTTER

WEST HARTFORD 6.5 242 AM 12/27 HAM RADIO

MARLBORO 5.3 942 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

SIMSBURY 4.0 737 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

FARMINGTON 4.0 828 PM 12/26 SPOTTER

SUFFIELD 3.5 731 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

ENFIELD 3.5 732 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

GLASTONBURY 2.5 731 PM 12/26 HAM RADIO

Ouch!!

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Nice event here in Eastern NY (Hudson Valley and first row of counties bordering SNE)... best I can measure here is ~11" but with severe blowing and drifting. Honestly I would accept anything between 8-12" here, but the yard seems to have an average of 11-12" (however there's no snow on the roof so all that must've ended up somewhere, probably in the yard).

Columbia and Dutchess Counties (border Berkshire and Litchfield counties) got destroyed.

NEW YORK

...ALBANY COUNTY...

COHOES 13.7 855 AM 12/27

RENSSELAERVILLE 12.0 530 AM 12/27 WNYT - DRIFTS TO 4 FEET

LATHAM 11.0 750 AM 12/27

VOORHEESVILLE 10.0 936 AM 12/27 NWS EMPLOYEE

ALCOVE DAM 10.0 730 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER

ALBANY 9.7 800 AM 12/27 NWS EMPLOYEE

COLONIE 9.0 642 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

GUILDERLAND 9.0 600 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

ALTAMONT 9.0 528 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

SOUTH BERNE 7.5 542 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

...COLUMBIA COUNTY...

KINDERHOOK 21.0 834 AM 12/27 2 TO 3 FOOT DRIFTS

NORTH CHATHAM 20.3 802 AM 12/27 DRIFTS TO 4 FEET

GHENT 20.0 826 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

NORTH HILLSDALE 20.0 714 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

TAGHKANIC 19.0 800 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

LIVINGSTON 16.5 712 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

CHATHAM CENTER 16.0 509 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

ANCRAMDALE 14.5 601 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

COPAKE 14.0 557 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

...DUTCHESS COUNTY...

PINE PLAINS 25.0 758 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

HOPEWELL JUNCTION 24.0 538 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

LAGRANGEVILLE 18.0 507 AM 12/27 DRIFTS MORE THAN 3 FEET

RHINEBECK 17.0 938 AM 12/27

RED HOOK 15.0 734 AM 12/27

WINGDALE 15.0 714 AM 12/27 1 TREE DOWN

DOVER PLAINS 15.0 809 AM 12/27

POUGHKEEPSIE 10.0 700 AM 12/27 CO-OP OBSERVER

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Where is "here"? I had about 16. Those totals make perfect sense to me. How are you deriving your total? Drifts are up to 3 or 4 feet in some spots.

Greenwich. I'm gonna go out and shovel a bit so I'll have a better idea, but we had around a foot and a half to 20 inches for PD2 and that looked a lot worse than this does.

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Well ... I must say, I am fascinated as to why the consolidation never took place in interior Massachusetts, particularly as the storm was passing S/SE of ISP toward ACK. I made the statement later last evening that I thought we would see that take place during the overnight time frames, but the congealing on rad never took place. At no point did a Meteorologist friend out toward Fitchburg, or my self, experience S+ during this event; this area will end as having been synoptically shadowed for whatever reason. 8" is nothing to shake a stick at - it is a decent little event - but the event shredded for much of the area west of ~ BED -ORH and E of CEF, and in CT, and remained that way for the entirety of the event. Shredded systems are not that uncommon, no - but doing so with a 3 or 4 contoured closing mid level circulation that is collocated with the attending 700mb center, both passing historically ideal latitude and longitude underneath, the vast majority of times will see a solid comma head type uniform output that pivots through. Not so this time.

Please read that objectively! It does not impugn the storm as a whole, nor diminish its significance for any particular region. This is just factually what took place, and I will add ...unusually so. I am not really sure why the arguments erupted when the statements were first made - it is like people took offense at "how dare you call this storm names", or some petty thing. It was a 10 day ramp up of varying consternation and frustration, culminating in a fantastic system for a lot of people, and wholly run-of-the-mill for others. For the others, they are not allowed a voice? No, please be objective next time and don't snap judge what someone has written - actually read it.

Fascinating case study!

As for others, the coastal communities took a mad pounding and this was anything and everything but pedestrian for them. I cannot imagine what it must have been like for emergency-related crews trying to operate in crashing surf, high winds, and blinding rain/sleet/snow. God bless them! Other notables was the 24" in and around NYC and the incredible 3 feet totals coming in from parts of NJ. Also, the fact that it was concurrently snowing moderately in Va Beach (of all places) while NYC was entering into a blizzard condition late yesterday was exceptionally rare a circumstance.

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Also, here's Berkshire County... nice, solid double digit storm for them.

MASSACHUSETTS

...BERKSHIRE COUNTY...

ADAMS 17.0 530 AM 12/27 WNYT

NORTH OTIS 17.0 645 AM 12/27 TRAINED SPOTTER

PITTSFIELD 16.0 614 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

LANESBOROUGH 15.0 608 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

CLARKSBURG 15.0 527 AM 12/27 WEATHERNET6

WILLIAMSTOWN 13.0 400 AM 12/27 WNYT

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Greenwich. I'm gonna go out and shovel a bit so I'll have a better idea, but we had around a foot and a half to 20 inches for PD2 and that looked a lot worse than this does.

The wind does funny things when you get gusts of 50 or 60MPH. It is highly unlikely you'll be able to get a good total now. I measured in multiple spots at several intervals during the storm and got that approximate sum.

Some spots in my yard had 3-4 inches while others, like the back of the patio, have a 36 inch drift.

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