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Discuss the Blizz of 2010 - Part II

Baroclinic Zone

By Baroclinic Zone,
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ROOSTA

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Hmmm.. could that be an eye I see?

To bad it's not daylight.

The mood swing thing and emotional investment is to each there own. Season is tough enough. I have sat in front of the computer for three days. No Christmas. The only conversation I've had is with the neighbor in meeting his mother. The ex just had a tumor removed, hard time breathing and back in the hospital. I've continued to tell myself that I'm holding on to the house for her. Truth be told. She's not coming back and in doing so have destroyed my finances.

This hobby is just that no more no less. In life there are more important things

Any snow is good snow anyway I get it

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HoarfrostHubb

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Snow seems to be about done here for now

Some models at some point picked up that dryslot possibility here pretty well. Not sure it will ever fill in.

This will be my own dry slot from hell, but so be it. Doesn;t happen too often and it might not happen again for a while. But it could happen the next 3 storms for all anyone knows.

Glad many folks are getting hammered. Some good reports out there.

People need to chill a bit.

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Clinch Leatherwood

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Messenger, there's a natural negatively that has seemed to grow on this board (going back to eastern) as a whole...every storm is "its not the best case scenario anymore"....that type of attitude is a total turn off to me. I understand people want to jackpot, but they cannot realistically expect it like they do. At least I know I don't and after a billion let downs, I would hope other people would know that too.

The fact of the matter is, this storm was forecasted to nearly whiff us (maybe a glancing blow) a few days ago and most of the area will get a big snow out of it. OK, some might only get 7" while others get 20"....but its the natural negatively of always wanting the jackpot that often brings the quality of these threads down.

IMO what brings the threads down is not moderating out the nonsense and I don't mean John talking about cosmic dildos at 12am, I mean the deliberately antagonistic posts that we both know are designed to give a rise out of people. Have you considered why there may be some of that trend is that there's always unrealistic expectations being set sometimes just to raz people? Pointing out a dry slot/punch exists and then getting grief over it, stinks. BUT I ENTIRELY understand what you are saying.

John made one comment that nobody mentioned. 10 days could have been better spent and that's probably true for a lot of us, hit home with me and it was only a few days. The weather will do what it wants and over the last 5-6 years either because the models or mother nature tend to be more jumpy most all well modeled hits for me end up sucking. Blizzards albeit brief like Monday that come out of the blue with little fanfare are always the best.

I expected the widepsread totals needed to be trimmed. The nature and way this play out surprised me. I had the low number on the totals fearing some drying and told others in PMs I thought it would be feast or famine but not to this extent.

FWIW, heavy heavy rain here, all frozen stopped. NAM seems to say the dirty warm air makes it further NW and it appears to be doing it right now.

All I'm suggesting is

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ORH_wxman

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Huh? Show me when? I posted once that the dry hole might be making it towards ORH when I posted a radar image. Other than that, the above post was more referencing HubbDave in ORH county saying he only had 5-6" or so a little while ago (he does live in ORH county, no?). Also, I don't think Tip lives in ORH county but he's close and only at 5.5", too.

Will, I honestly can't remember mentioning ORH other than those two posts in the last two days except to say that I thought you guys would jackpot on a NE wind. I know you get a ton of snow in most storms... no argument there. And I'm sure YOU will do better than me near the airport in ORH. Its a big county.. and I was more thinking the northern end of it.

Sorry dude.

No offense taken, i dont take it too seriously, none of us can control the weather. But you did make several posts about how we are going to get screwed.

I was just surprised because despite my comment about nobody in SNE caring about N VT snows, I was one of the few who normally responded to your upslope threads back before the board became subforums...I like to analyze those events.

Maybe I'm just being overly analytical on everyone's posts because of the noose tying going on. :lol:

I think this storm has a long way to go, and regardless if we get 12" or 20" it will be nice considering we werent supposed to get much a few days ago.

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To bad it's not daylight.

The mood swing thing and emotional investment is to each there own. Season is tough enough. I have sat in front of the computer for three days. No Christmas. The only conversation I've had is with the neighbor in meeting his mother. The ex just had a tumor removed, hard time breathing and back in the hospital. I've continued to tell myself that I'm holding on to the house for her. Truth be told. She's not coming back and in doing so have destroyed my finances.

This hobby is just that no more no less. In life there are more important things

Any snow is good snow anyway I get it

Sorry, Don...sucks.

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weathafella

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Keep dreaming. There are storms that actually ARE better than this, that didn't do this shredded stuff.

It's a great experience, yes. It's a regional all-inclusive festival, no.

His old stomping grounds, part of the metro area of one of the largest cities on earth, will finish with 20+ widespread across the area. And before you declare, wait for the totals. There's a nice band either overhead at Ayer or will be soon.

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Arnold214

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I agree with him John, I think your judgement is completely clouded by the fact that part of the region is getting screwed....this is an impressive storm.

I definitely understand the frustration. I have been the king of frustration (for the most part) for the last several years. I will admit that the radar across SNE looks a heck of a lot crappier that I expected. It should look better than this. However, funky things happen with such a tightly wound system.

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His old stomping grounds, part of the metro area of one of the largest cities on earth, will finish with 20+ widespread across the area. And before you declare, wait for the totals. There's a nice band either overhead at Ayer or will be soon.

The overall trend is downhill.

What we have is a pulsating of the band, but the mean trend is for an erosion of the area from the wnw....IOW, there is a net loss ongoing and it is shrinking.....pulsations not withstanding.

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powderfreak

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No offense taken, i dont take it too seriously, none of us can control the weather. But you did make several posts about how we are going to get screwed.

I was just surprised because despite my comment about nobody in SNE caring about N VT snows, I was one of the few who normally responded to your upslope threads back before the board became subforums...I like to analyze those events.

Maybe I'm just being overly analytical on everyone's posts because of the noose tying going on. :lol:

I think this storm has a long way to go, and regardless if we get 12" or 20" it will be nice considering we werent supposed to get much a few days ago.

Sorry, I didn't mean for the posts to sound that way... I think many of us have been up far too long following this storm, lol. If you search my posts, you'll find one that said the dry slot may be expanding to include the ORH area and then that last post that said this area of NY may do better than ORH county (HubbDave just posted that he thinks his snow is done, and his area was the one I was referencing).

Honestly about the upslope thing... I wouldn't care about it either if I didn't live there lol, though I do love meso-scale events. Its like Lake Effect, cool from a meteorological standpoint but from a IMBY stand-point its worthless to most posters.

I think you've had the right idea all along with this storm... there's always a secondary explosion of QPF from ORH-BOS as the coastal low makes its pass nearby. I'd be worried out further west in MA and I know I'd be getting jack-sh*t from this storm out in the Hudson Valley if it wasn't for this freak band. However, for those of you in east-central MA... I bet you do quite well later tonight. There always seems to be strong WAA snows, a lull, then a burst of heavy snow later on.

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weathafella

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Out for the final dog walk and then sleep.....let's see where we are in the AM. The most esteemed and experienced broadcast met in the area suggests alot of the NYC stuff will rotate up as the low comes east of the Cape. No reason to think otherwise. Will what's your take? Harv is still quite bullish.

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DeVries

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No offense taken, i dont take it too seriously, none of us can control the weather. But you did make several posts about how we are going to get screwed.

I was just surprised because despite my comment about nobody in SNE caring about N VT snows, I was one of the few who normally responded to your upslope threads back before the board became subforums...I like to analyze those events.

Maybe I'm just being overly analytical on everyone's posts because of the noose tying going on. :lol:

I think this storm has a long way to go, and regardless if we get 12" or 20" it will be nice considering we werent supposed to get much a few days ago.

We are ROMPING ORH right now. :scooter:

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CTWeatherFreak

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Why can't something be epic in one area and pedestrian in another?

good point.. Thats exactly what this one is.. I know damned well if I were sitting back in white plains were I was living before here, Id be extolling the virtues of this noreaster.. Sometimes, its your storm, and other times, it isnt. This forum addresses a wide enough area such that there are bound to be some of us who get screwed.. Everybody must get screwed, sometimes. If this storm went a little further east, as was modeled in one of the many modeling incarnations, the screw zone would have set up differently, and wed have a whole nother set of folks bitchin' and moanin'.. but rarely will everybody in this wide geographic area be satisfied.

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TalcottWx

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Out for the final dog walk and then sleep.....let's see where we are in the AM. The most esteemed and experienced broadcast met in the area suggests alot of the NYC stuff will rotate up as the low comes east of the Cape. No reason to think otherwise. Will what's your take? Harv is still quite bullish.

I don't think I'm sleeping tonight Jerry. Jackpots like this for us don't come every year.

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Clinch Leatherwood

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You are not right

I understand for once everything you said. These storms mean different things to different people. When I think of 78, or 4/1/97 I don't think of a storm that hit a 25 mile wide band hard while the rest of us played checkers. 2 bands of snow delivered the goods, everyone else got the pipe.

It's not "building"...it's pulsating; it will wane again in a frame or too, as opposed to Boston, where it is steady.

LOL, 100% agree. The radar has been "building" since 4pm...only the big dig took longer to be completed.

I agree with him John, I think your judgement is completely clouded by the fact that part of the region is getting screwed....this is an impressive storm.

And I agree with all of you.

Will IMO part of what he is saying and ARL too, we invest a lot of time into these things and for me it's two fold afterward. One almost cognitive dissonance for the amount of time spent regardless of the outcome...there's much better things I could do with my time than watch a marvelous storm spin dry air. Two, for me the timing around the holidays. I'm approaching 40. In the roughly 10 years I've been no the Cape we've had plenty more wind, plenty more snow, in reality we've had windier rainstorms quite often. It's just NBD to me.

Bottom line look at Jersey...that's how to make a snowstorm. Sure some bands will bring feet more than others but at least they aren't playing chess watching the radar in between.

This one had the potential to be one of the biggest of all time over a huge area. It will be one of the biggest of all time over a very small geographic area when compared to some of the big ones. Doesnt make it any less special though.

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HoarfrostHubb

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This time I'm out...can barely see across the street, but from reading this thread, you'd think the storm missed. To each his own. GN.

Up here it has :lol: jk... maybe 6" for a total, but that is eyeballing it, could be 5.5"... snow has stopped with not much more on the way unless that beatch of a dryslot goes poof (yeah, right)

I am enjoying the wind, because it's the only wind I got

Blizz will be pissed when he goes on his morning run...

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