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NYC/PHL Dec 26-27 Boxing Day Blizzard Part 8


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This is going to imply 20 to 30 inches of snow for local spots...

Wow at the NW NJ Bullseye right over me! I believe this model does take terrain into effect and that is a higher terrian area! Wonder if that will be close to accurete? It does cover West Milford so .... ;)

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Good luck to everyone! I have a couple of questions. Where is the storm currently located? I heard it wad forming off of OBX. Most indications are that li, nyc, and eastern Nj will bear the brunt of the storm, but with the storm still a good distance away there is still a chance it could move more west giving heavier snow to different locations.

Seems like most think this is a certain track. 25-50 miles could make a big difference.

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Within 5-7 hours things are going to get really going. The RUC has been very consistently bringing the very heavy deformation abnd back west towards Central/Northeast New Jersey...New York City Long Island..Southeast New York..and Connecticut. Heavy snow, insane frontogenic forcing...this band should have it all. Snow rates of 1-2"/hr should be widespread with the winds really kicking up once this gets onshore.

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Anyone using the models now, SHOULDN'T except maybe the very short term models like the RUC although even it has trouble sometimes, but using the Euro, the NAM, or the GFS at this time is pretty much pointless considering the storm is ongoing right now. Watching the radar is really the best thing anyone can do and keep your fingers crossed.

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Anyone using the models now, SHOULDN'T except maybe the very short term models like the RUC although even it has trouble sometimes, but using the Euro, the NAM, or the GFS at this time is pretty much pointless considering the storm is ongoing right now. Watching the radar is really the best thing anyone can do and keep your fingers crossed.

Wrong. The GFS and Euro both have the resolution to pick up deformation bands. Your statement was true 5 years ago.

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John,

do you see the possibly of a February 2006 styled band popping up somewhere in the local area? The dynamics are certainly there.

It's possible. But I'm not sure we have the atmospheric setup to stall the band as well as we did in February 2006. With a surface low getting captured like this it's actually possible that the band keeps pushing northwest, and then suddenly gets hooked back east/northeast as the surface low begins moving northeast.

Then again, the deformation signal is through the roof. So for all we know, the deformation banding could be wider than that event.

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I believe Hurricane Schwartz's forecast was for 20"+ around the metro area.

I think even he said that's pretty broad-brushed because its outside his viewing area. OTOH, OKX is going for around 20" for just about all of NYC/LI now (except the east end).

Cutchogue may only have a foot due to mixing, but Orient will miraculously report 30" ;)

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