TheClimateChanger Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said: Do you HONESTLY enjoy summer in Texas? My cousin has a relative in Texas (lived there for decades) and they absolutely hate summer. Florida and Texas were rural backwoods before A/C. Such temperatures were not just unpleasant, but deadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 14 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Florida and Texas were rural backwoods before A/C. Such temperatures were not just unpleasant, but deadly. I mean, one can say the same about many places up north before Central Heating was mainstream / affordable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Powerball said: I mean, one can say the same about many places up north before Central Heating was mainstream / affordable... Not the same. Even in colonial times, they had fireplaces to keep warm. And it cost nothing to make a fire. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 000 SXUS71 KILN 030642 RERDAY RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILMINGTON OH 0239 AM EDT THU APR 03 2025 ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT DAYTON OH... A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 81 DEGREES WAS SET AT DAYTON OH YESTERDAY. THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 81 DEGREES SET IN 1963. $$ First 80-degree of the year yesterday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, Lightning said: MI summers are awesome. 1988, 1995 and 2012 are the hottest summers I experienced in MI. I would says there are 5 months of what I call summer weather in MI; mid-May to mid-October. Note: It has been a bit since we had a cold fall. Plus I am well inland for the GLs to impact my temps much in May into June. Hardcore summer weather, yeah, definitely not 5 months. 2012 wins for me. I remember it hitting 100F in 1988 but I feel like the beginning of Summer wasn't hot at all, maybe even cool? 1995 was crazy with how high the dewpoints were with the heat. However, I remember there being some good backdoor cold fronts which brought highs down into the 70s around here. I think we were really on the NE edge of the heat and Ontario actually had much cooler weather, hence the backdoor cold fronts and also the big derecho that July. 2012 was warm to hot already in May and seemed like it just never gave up until September, when it actually cooled way down the second half of that month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 hours ago, Powerball said: Let's just say I'll rather deal with Summers in Texas over the Winters downwind of the Great Lakes. EDIT: And days like the ones we're expecting through the weekend (temps stuck in the 50s with nothing but stratocumulus and light stratiform rain/drizzle) only reaffirms how much I would hate having to deal with several months of it. Exactly, give me heat over the crap we gotta sludge through in march/April, cold rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 3 hours ago, Lightning said: MI summers are awesome. 1988, 1995 and 2012 are the hottest summers I experienced in MI. I would says there are 5 months of what I call summer weather in MI; mid-May to mid-October. Note: It has been a bit since we had a cold fall. Plus I am well inland for the GLs to impact my temps much in May into June. Hardcore summer weather, yeah, definitely not 5 months. Yea my criteria for summer is a little loose. Temps in the 60s atleast is considered summer so may through September. 2.6 inches of rain yesterday. Glad most of rain is gonna stay to the south the next few days. Pretty epic totals for ohio valley incoming. Looks like in about 10 days we may consistently see almost 60 everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: Keep in mind, many places in the world are much colder than America. My wife is from the United Kingdom, and even a very cold summer in Detroit would be considered oppressively hot there. I have two friends in the UK. They are constantly amazed at our extremes. A cold summer here would still be oppressively hot there, and a warm winter here would be frigid there. An average summer in Detroit is 7° warmer than London, and an average winter in Detroit is nearly 16° colder than London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 May get grazed by a little rain tomorrow, but mostly looking pretty quiet for the next 7-10 days for this area. Unless something crazy happens at the end of April MLI should have the futility seasonal snowfall record in the bag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 On 4/2/2025 at 12:43 PM, Stevo6899 said: Everyone that lives in Michigan says this on days like today but once summer comes, there's not a better place be than in Michigan, particularly up north out on the lake or out on the links. Unfortunately it only lasts 5 months. Came into Harrison last evening to full snow cover and fog. Looked like back in December. I'm not sure weeks of this backwards spring crap is worth it for the handful of perfect low-humidity, sunny and mid-70s days that we get up here between Independence and Labor day. Last year was the earliest, warmest, and longest warm season on record for NMI. It was quite fantastic and nothing like my memories living up here back in 90-97. Warm seasons in SEMI seemed to last forever by comparison. Endless. I figured 7 months were "warm season" (Apr-Oct) downstate. Not always summer hot, but mostly mild with little in the way of serious snow threats. I cannot wait for a new season. Btw, what's this thing called "green-up" I see people posting about? My 22 yrs living down along the 94 corridor including 2012 had me dreading July/Aug. If you had to do anything outside you were a ball of sweat inside 10 mins. 2007 had some nasty heat too. I'm also a Michigander native who spent a rather hot summer of 2010 living and working in Ft Worth. I did have working A/C (car, work office, and apt). Limited most of my outside fun to after dark and dressed minimally. It was like being on vacation except my dark blue ride could be so hot by lunch time you'd risk burning your fingers if you weren't careful. That heat was a dry heat summer with prevailing winds off of the deserts of N Mexico. Dry heat = more bearable. Was told they do get humid summers when winds are mostly off the Gulf. Love my 4 seasons but this time of year, when winter is trying to end, but spring has yet to really take hold is the worst 4-6 weeks up this way. That part hasn't changed LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 14 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: Not the same. Even in colonial times, they had fireplaces to keep warm. And it cost nothing to make a fire. ...except hard work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 14 hours ago, cyclone77 said: May get grazed by a little rain tomorrow, but mostly looking pretty quiet for the next 7-10 days for this area. Unless something crazy happens at the end of April MLI should have the futility seasonal snowfall record in the bag. When did you hit the point where you rooted the futility? Just crazy how MLI got skipped all winter. Not that it was particularly snowy ANYWHERE in the region outside the belts, but 8.2" is insane. Goes without saying theyll have a better winter in '25-26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 41 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: When did you hit the point where you rooted the futility? Just crazy how MLI got skipped all winter. Not that it was particularly snowy ANYWHERE in the region outside the belts, but 8.2" is insane. Goes without saying theyll have a better winter in '25-26. I probably started back in January lol. More than just being sarcastic and pissy really. Never really thought it'd actually happen lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 55 minutes ago, cyclone77 said: I probably started back in January lol. More than just being sarcastic and pissy really. Never really thought it'd actually happen lol. I always say, whenever people say that in January, that its way too soon. But by the time March came around and the pattern turned milder, it became a very realistic "goal" for MLI. I can honestly say ive fortunately never been close to that situation...but if I was, id be super pissy and still root for an April snowstorm to ruin it. MLI will also finish with the 3rd least amount of days with 1"+ snowcover- 17 days (this ties with 1921-22 & 1943-44). The 2 winters that had less were 1927-28 (16 days) and 1986-87 (8 days). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 On 4/3/2025 at 2:25 PM, roardog said: 2012 wins for me. I remember it hitting 100F in 1988 but I feel like the beginning of Summer wasn't hot at all, maybe even cool? 1995 was crazy with how high the dewpoints were with the heat. However, I remember there being some good backdoor cold fronts which brought highs down into the 70s around here. I think we were really on the NE edge of the heat and Ontario actually had much cooler weather, hence the backdoor cold fronts and also the big derecho that July. 2012 was warm to hot already in May and seemed like it just never gave up until September, when it actually cooled way down the second half of that month. 1988 heat was for MI was end of May to mid-August, the main flow was from the SW. I.e. it was definitely not as humid and 1995 and 2012. Yeah 1995 had a major Derechos (July 13). 1995 was the summer I got struck by lightning (indirectly thankfully)!! All 3 of those hot summers had something special about them and equally memorable for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 23 hours ago, Stevo6899 said: Yea my criteria for summer is a little loose. Temps in the 60s atleast is considered summer so may through September. 2.6 inches of rain yesterday. Glad most of rain is gonna stay to the south the next few days. Pretty epic totals for ohio valley incoming. Looks like in about 10 days we may consistently see almost 60 everyday. I was think more like 70s but yeah I am also a bit more loose on summer I ended up with over 3". I wish I could give exact but my rain gauge failed during the heaviest part of the storm . This immediate area had flooding (not my house as I am on a decent hill). Many yards were flooded. It was a great day (though not wishing destruction on anyone). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Pummeled with rain here. Almost 4in since 9pm. The creek that's along my property has damn near got me trapped. That's never happened here. More training coming. Some of the longest hard rain I've seen since I moved back in 2012. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 0.14" here yesterday/overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted April 5 Author Share Posted April 5 On 4/3/2025 at 11:13 AM, Powerball said: Let's just say I'll rather deal with Summers in Texas over the Winters downwind of the Great Lakes. EDIT: And days like the ones we're expecting through the weekend (temps stuck in the 50s with nothing but stratocumulus and light stratiform rain/drizzle) only reaffirms how much I would hate having to deal with several months of it. Definitely going to be a long crappy 1st weekend of April, for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 After all of the rain recently, I'm starting to see some pockets of green grass in the lawn now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 4/4/2025 at 3:28 PM, Lightning said: 1988 heat was for MI was end of May to mid-August, the main flow was from the SW. I.e. it was definitely not as humid and 1995 and 2012. Yeah 1995 had a major Derechos (July 13). 1995 was the summer I got struck by lightning (indirectly thankfully)!! All 3 of those hot summers had something special about them and equally memorable for me. 1988 with its 113F heat index in Flint area was for me the worst because I had zero A/C. Not at home (a mobile tin can at the time no less) not at work (top floor of an old building) and not working in the used car I was driving. 1995 was a brief deal since I was in NMI then. The afternoon of the derecho it did hit 100F in Traverse right before, then dropped to a chilly 59F right after. 2012 was rough but I had A/C home/office/car so I faired way better than my lawn which basically half of it was gone afterwards. G-maps street scene used to be from that summer and my front lawn looked horrendous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 More BS backwards spring on deck here tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartman Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 7 hours ago, RogueWaves said: More BS backwards spring on deck here tomorrow Below normal temperatures every single day for this upcoming week through Saturday. Tonight A chance of rain and snow showers before 11pm, then a slight chance of snow showers between 11pm and midnight. Cloudy, then gradually becoming partly cloudy, with a low around 33. Northeast wind 5 to 11 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. Little or no snow accumulation expected. Monday Increasing clouds, with a high near 55. Light west wind increasing to 11 to 16 mph in the morning. Monday Night Mostly clear, with a low around 24. Northwest wind 13 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 26 mph. Tuesday Sunny, with a high near 43. Northwest wind around 11 mph. Tuesday Night Mostly clear, with a low around 27. Northwest wind around 6 mph becoming calm in the evening. Wednesday A chance of showers after 2pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 47. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New precipitation amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible. Wednesday Night Showers, mainly after 2am. Low around 41. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Thursday Showers. High near 56. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Thursday Night A chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 37. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Friday Mostly sunny, with a high near 52. Friday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 34. Saturday Sunny, with a high near 57. Saturday Night Mostly clear, with a low around 36. Sunday Mostly sunny, with a high near 65. Yesterday's soaker: 000 SXUS71 KILN 060536 RERDAY RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILMINGTON OH 0134 AM EDT SUN APR 06 2025 ...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM RAINFALL SET AT DAYTON OH... A RECORD RAINFALL OF 1.65 INCHES WAS SET AT DAYTON OH (KDAY) ON SATURDAY, APRIL 5. THIS BREAKS THE OLD DAILY RECORD FOR THE SITE OF 1.37 INCHES SET IN 1936. $$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 10 hours ago, RogueWaves said: 1988 with its 113F heat index in Flint area was for me the worst because I had zero A/C. Not at home (a mobile tin can at the time no less) not at work (top floor of an old building) and not working in the used car I was driving. 1995 was a brief deal since I was in NMI then. The afternoon of the derecho it did hit 100F in Traverse right before, then dropped to a chilly 59F right after. 2012 was rough but I had A/C home/office/car so I faired way better than my lawn which basically half of it was gone afterwards. G-maps street scene used to be from that summer and my front lawn looked horrendous. I lived in SOCAL out by Apple Valley in the 60's and early 70's because my dad was working on flying saucers or some shit (still says he cant talk about it lol) out at the Air Force base and we had 0 AC out in the desert. Apple Valley had like 10 people living there back then including Roy Rogers lol. We moved back to IN and I lived there until about 88. The only people with AC were the wealthier folks in town. I moved to FL in 89 and that was my first real experience with AC, a little window unit in a beach shack. Thought it was weird, didn't like it because I couldn't hear the ocean when it was on, I mean that's why you move there right? lol. I hardly ever used it. Hell I hardly use it today. I've always found if I just get hot as the season progresses it doesn't bother me as much. If I use it a lot it feels a lot hotter when I go out. Don't get me wrong, its nice, and as I get older I tend to use it more. But even today it's gotta be up to 80-85 or higher before I crank it. A fan in a window suits me just fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 cool and damp not the best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary67 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 This weekend shaping up nice. Always think of spring weather starting here in mid April. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 flurries here currently. Today and possibly Wednesday night look like winter's last gasp here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 The Detroit Tigers had to move their games up due to the cold per MLB. Good weather to cool those hot bats from New York Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 24 minutes ago, nwohweather said: The Detroit Tigers had to move their games up due to the cold per MLB. Good weather to cool those hot bats from New York I definitely see why they did it, but I like night games better. That really screws up people who have tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Snowing at the Tigers game 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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