April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[Stormlover74]

Meh

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, gravitylover said:

Because 21 year olds are so much wiser and their actions are always so well thought out...

I mean the brain isn't fully developed until age 25

so medically speaking, the older the better.

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

There very likely was measurable snowfall on May 4, 1812. The newspapers described a violent snowstorm (likely heavy wet snow) that was "among the rarities of the season." The reports noted that the snow fell all day and accumulated.

Wow any idea how much might have fallen and are there any maps anywhere from that storm, Don?

 

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, steve392 said:

Easily 2 weeks ahead.  Trees with full canopies by me.  Green coatings on everything. 

how are you guys ahead of us? I have the same small green buds that I had 2 weeks ago, the only thing that's changed is my cherry tree has blossomed as of yesterday.

also got plenty of tulips.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

Meh

heaviest rain NW of us as forecast

[FPizz]

.11 so far

[bluewave]

13 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Heaviest rain and highest totals to our NW?

I just had some heavier rains here with this first round.

[cleetussnow]

23 hours ago, Dark Star said:

There are, but you may not like how they are run...

Sweden tried socialism back in the last century.  They really had that utopian vision of paradise everyone dreams about.  Then, they (the people) realized how quickly they were going broke and how unsustainable it all was.  They were on the brink of collapse.  Luckily they were still a democracy and were able to turn away from the failed experiment and avoid the police state and gulags. Swedes don’t have the stomach for real socialism it turns out.  

We do have this new breed of socialist now…lightweight socialists.  They tend to like or even own vineyards and drink Prosecco.  They’ve never once set foot in a socialist country and have no clue what socialism looks like.  I am likely one of the very few people on this board who's been to any socialist states.  Multiple, pre wall socialist states.  The real thing. There was no Prosecco. 

[donsutherland1]

8 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Wow any idea how much might have fallen and are there any maps anywhere from that storm, Don?

 

Unfortunately, none of the early newspapers gave any amounts. The earliest maps that I'm aware of go back to 1836.

There was an even larger May snowfall in 1803. May 1803 likely saw several inches in New York City and Philadelphia. Most of the snow fell during the nighttime.

[LibertyBell]

52 minutes ago, cleetussnow said:

Sweden tried socialism back in the last century.  They really had that utopian vision of paradise everyone dreams about.  Then, they (the people) realized how quickly they were going broke and how unsustainable it all was.  They were on the brink of collapse.  Luckily they were still a democracy and were able to turn away from the failed experiment and avoid the police state and gulags. Swedes don’t have the stomach for real socialism it turns out.  

We do have this new breed of socialist now…lightweight socialists.  They tend to like or even own vineyards and drink Prosecco.  They’ve never once set foot in a socialist country and have no clue what socialism looks like.  I am likely one of the very few people on this board who's been to any socialist states.  Multiple, pre wall socialist states.  The real thing. There was no Prosecco. 

Sweden is too conservative.

The other Nordic nations are far better, they don't allow crap chemicals in their food, they don't allow corporations to run their political system, they don't have a diabetes epidemic going on and they have far higher literacy rates and a longer life expectancy and best of all, they are science based not money based.

 

I've lived in Europe and they are MUCH healthier and most of my digestive and other health issues disappeared when I lived there.

Guess who the police state is now.... this country.

This is what happens when crapitalism  becomes an oligarchy, for the rich and the rich alone. That makes the entirety of society suffer when they get away with literal murder.

Mr. Moss was able to obtain documents that support this entire story. Michael Moss stated, “What I found, over four years of research and reporting, was a conscious effort — taking place in labs and marketing meetings and grocery-store aisles — to get people hooked on foods that are convenient and inexpensive.” Mr. Moss interviewed over 300 people who had been involved, or were still involved, with the food industry. In this article, he relays examples of how certain foods were formulated to make products irresistible to consumers. Foods that he mentioned in the magazine article were Dr. Pepper soft drink, Prego spaghetti sauce, Lunchables with dessert, the line extension for Lay’s potato chips, and several other major processed foods.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/26/990821079/cheap-legal-and-everywhere-how-food-companies-get-us-hooked-on-junk
 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

8 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

how are you guys ahead of us? I have the same small green buds that I had 2 weeks ago, the only thing that's changed is my cherry tree has blossomed as of yesterday.

also got plenty of tulips.

The south shore is often behind areas 10+ miles inland. There is even a noticeable difference from here in North Lynbrook to my dads in South Wantagh.

[Brian5671]

looks like a bust on the all day rain forecast-looks dry for a good chunk of the day now

 

.58 at BDR with the passage of the warm front

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

looks like a bust on the all day rain forecast-looks dry for a good chunk of the day now

 

.58 at BDR with the passage of the warm front

you rarely see all day rain this time of year, usually just showers and thunderstorms.

[LibertyBell]

4 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The south shore is often behind areas 10+ miles inland. There is even a noticeable difference from here in North Lynbrook to my dads in South Wantagh.

it's sad because our winters are so much milder, might as well have an early start to the warm season.

[LibertyBell]

31 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Unfortunately, none of the early newspapers gave any amounts. The earliest maps that I'm aware of go back to 1836.

There was an even larger May snowfall in 1803. May 1803 likely saw several inches in New York City and Philadelphia. Most of the snow fell during the nighttime.

Don that was the era when we used to get snow even from hurricanes

a Cat 2 hurricane from October 1804 comes to mind, it bisected Long Island and snow fell with temps in the 30s.

[FPizz]

11 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

looks like a bust on the all day rain forecast-looks dry for a good chunk of the day now

 

.58 at BDR with the passage of the warm front

Decent amount of rain in PA

[Brian5671]

4 minutes ago, FPizz said:

Decent amount of rain in PA

that'll swing through later today with the cold front I guess 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

that'll swing through later today with the cold front I guess 

we'll get the southern part of that

[steve392]

9 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

how are you guys ahead of us? I have the same small green buds that I had 2 weeks ago, the only thing that's changed is my cherry tree has blossomed as of yesterday.

also got plenty of tulips.

No idea but it's crazy how early everything is this year.  My lawn last year was just barely out of dormancy.  Im up to 3 mows already this year and i haven't even fertilized yet.  All my perenial flower plants are exploding in growth. Roses are doubled in size since February.  At my job in Mahwah, it's not as in bloom but it's close.

[donsutherland1]

25 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Don that was the era when we used to get snow even from hurricanes

a Cat 2 hurricane from October 1804 comes to mind, it bisected Long Island and snow fell with temps in the 30s.

At that time, cold air pools were generally more expansive and more severe than they are today. Storms tapped into the larger pools of cold air. Today, those storms would be mainly or all rain.

[Brian5671]

7 minutes ago, steve392 said:

No idea but it's crazy how early everything is this year.  My lawn last year was just barely out of dormancy.  Im up to 3 mows already this year and i haven't even fertilized yet.  All my perenial flower plants are exploding in growth. Roses are doubled in size since February.  At my job in Mahwah, it's not as in bloom but it's close.

We are a good 7-10 days ahead here-saw a photo from 2015 on my facebook memory today-the trees were still bare

[Sundog]

50 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Sweden is too conservative.

The other Nordic nations are far better, they don't allow crap chemicals in their food, they don't allow corporations to run their political system, they don't have a diabetes epidemic going on and they have far higher literacy rates and a longer life expectancy and best of all, they are science based not money based.

 

I've lived in Europe and they are MUCH healthier and most of my digestive and other health issues disappeared when I lived there.

Guess who the police state is now.... this country.

This is what happens when crapitalism  becomes an oligarchy, for the rich and the rich alone. That makes the entirety of society suffer when they get away with literal murder.

Mr. Moss was able to obtain documents that support this entire story. Michael Moss stated, “What I found, over four years of research and reporting, was a conscious effort — taking place in labs and marketing meetings and grocery-store aisles — to get people hooked on foods that are convenient and inexpensive.” Mr. Moss interviewed over 300 people who had been involved, or were still involved, with the food industry. In this article, he relays examples of how certain foods were formulated to make products irresistible to consumers. Foods that he mentioned in the magazine article were Dr. Pepper soft drink, Prego spaghetti sauce, Lunchables with dessert, the line extension for Lay’s potato chips, and several other major processed foods.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/26/990821079/cheap-legal-and-everywhere-how-food-companies-get-us-hooked-on-junk
 

Maybe we should move this convo into banter, I would engage a bit more there since I wouldn't feel like I'm dragging the weather thread off topic. 

[Sundog]

Today is a bust of a day. Crap day. 

[Sundog]

1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

We are a good 7-10 days ahead here-saw a photo from 2015 on my facebook memory today-the trees were still bare

Bro of all the years lol

2015 was like the last time we had a few months in a row for real below normal, including March being almost -5.

April finished slightly above normal. So I'm not surprised that season was behind this one. 

 

[Brian5671]

2 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Today is a bust of a day. Crap day. 

Need the rain but too bad on a Saturday.    Played 9 holes last night I was surprised how dry the course was

[Sundog]

March was +4 and so far April is +1 so I'm not surprised things greened up in a hurry. 

The sad thing is people I know were acting like it was so cold this spring and winter lol they have lost all sense of perspective. It's been above normal for so long that they've gotten used to North Carolina averages. 

 

[LibertyBell]

14 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

At that time, cold air pools were generally more expansive and more severe than they are today. Storms tapped into the larger pools of cold air. Today, those storms would be mainly or all rain.

Yes, the October snowtober was a very anomalous event, has there been an earlier significant snowfall ever in NYC Don?

 

[Brian5671]

Just now, Sundog said:

March was +4 and so far April is +1 so I'm not surprised things greened up in a hurry. 

The sad thing is people I know were acting like it was so cold this spring and winter lol they have lost all sense of perspective. It's been above normal for so long that they've gotten used to North Carolina averages. 

 

That's the thing-it was cold, cold in relation to how warm it's been for a decade.   but yes it's a completely different climate than 25 yrs ago.   Wetter/warmer overall

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Sundog said:

March was +4 and so far April is +1 so I'm not surprised things greened up in a hurry. 

The sad thing is people I know were acting like it was so cold this spring and winter lol they have lost all sense of perspective. It's been above normal for so long that they've gotten used to North Carolina averages. 

 

honestly winter to summer is much better, I find spring to be useless.

I want either 30s and snow or 70s and sunshine.

[Sundog]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

honestly winter to summer is much better, I find spring to be useless.

I want either 30s and snow or 70s and sunshine.

I'd call 70s spring though. If that's what counts as summer I'd be for a 6 month long version of it lol