April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[LibertyBell]

31 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

It’s definitely possible. Still lots of snow across eastern Canada. CAA is the only way the park can approach freezing this time of year. 

too early for planting either way, although I have a large cluster of daffodils in my back yard now (6 have already flowered.)

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 81 (1967)
NYC: 81 (1981)
LGA: 77 (1967)
JFK: 75 (1967)

 

Lows:

EWR: 24 (1954)
NYC: 24 (1954)
LG: 25 (1954)
JFK: 29 (2008)

 

Historical:

 

1955 - Record snows fell in north central Wyoming and south central Montana. Billings MT received a storm total of 42.3 inches, and on the 4th reported a record snow depth of 35 inches. Sheridan WY established a 24 hour snowfall record of 26.7 inches. (2nd-4th) (The Weather Channel)

1974 - A "Super-Outbreak" of tornadoes ravaged the Midwest and the eastern U.S. Severe weather erupted early in the afternoon and continued through the next day. Severe thunderstorms spawned 148 tornadoes from Alabama to Michigan, most of which occurred between 1 PM (CST) on the 3rd and 1 AM on the 4th. The tornadoes killed 315 persons, injured 5300 others, and caused 600 million dollars damage. Alabama, Kentucky and Ohio were especially hard hit in the tornado outbreak. One tornado destroyed half of the town of Xenia OH killing 34 persons. Another tornado, near the town of Stamping Ground KY, produced a path of destruction a record five miles in width. A tornado raced through Guin AL at a speed of 75 mph. Two powerful tornadoes roared across northern Alabama during the early evening hours, killing fifty persons and injuring 500 others. Some rescue vehicles responding to the first tornado were

1987 - A storm in the southeastern U.S. produced a trace of snow at Mobile, AL, one inch at Jackson MS, and two inches at Meridian MS, the latest snow of record for those three locations. Birmingham AL received seven inches of snow, and up to nine inches was reported in northeast Alabama. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - A wind gust to 114 mph was clocked at Ann Arbor, MI, during a tornadic thunderstorm. Thunderstorms in Michigan and Indiana spawned five tornadoes that Easter Sunday, and also produced golf ball size hail. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Southern Plains to the southern and central Appalachians. The thunderstorms spawned twenty tornadoes, including one which caused eight million dollars damage at Fort Branch IN. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Rain and snow prevailed in the northeastern U.S., with snow reported in New York State. Boston MA was soaked with 2.91 inches of rain during the day and night, and up to half a foot of snow blanketed the hills of Steuben County NY that Tuesday night. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2008 - An EF-1 tornado knocks down numerous tress and powerlines, destroys homes in Leawood and Cammack Village and passes directly over the Little Rock National Weather Service office. Six tornados were confirmed in central Arkansas, but no fatalities were reported.

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 81 (1967)
NYC: 81 (1981)
LGA: 77 (1967)
JFK: 75 (1967)

 

Lows:

EWR: 24 (1954)
NYC: 24 (1954)
LG: 25 (1954)
JFK: 29 (2008)

 

Historical:

 

1955 - Record snows fell in north central Wyoming and south central Montana. Billings MT received a storm total of 42.3 inches, and on the 4th reported a record snow depth of 35 inches. Sheridan WY established a 24 hour snowfall record of 26.7 inches. (2nd-4th) (The Weather Channel)

1974 - A "Super-Outbreak" of tornadoes ravaged the Midwest and the eastern U.S. Severe weather erupted early in the afternoon and continued through the next day. Severe thunderstorms spawned 148 tornadoes from Alabama to Michigan, most of which occurred between 1 PM (CST) on the 3rd and 1 AM on the 4th. The tornadoes killed 315 persons, injured 5300 others, and caused 600 million dollars damage. Alabama, Kentucky and Ohio were especially hard hit in the tornado outbreak. One tornado destroyed half of the town of Xenia OH killing 34 persons. Another tornado, near the town of Stamping Ground KY, produced a path of destruction a record five miles in width. A tornado raced through Guin AL at a speed of 75 mph. Two powerful tornadoes roared across northern Alabama during the early evening hours, killing fifty persons and injuring 500 others. Some rescue vehicles responding to the first tornado were

1987 - A storm in the southeastern U.S. produced a trace of snow at Mobile, AL, one inch at Jackson MS, and two inches at Meridian MS, the latest snow of record for those three locations. Birmingham AL received seven inches of snow, and up to nine inches was reported in northeast Alabama. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - A wind gust to 114 mph was clocked at Ann Arbor, MI, during a tornadic thunderstorm. Thunderstorms in Michigan and Indiana spawned five tornadoes that Easter Sunday, and also produced golf ball size hail. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Southern Plains to the southern and central Appalachians. The thunderstorms spawned twenty tornadoes, including one which caused eight million dollars damage at Fort Branch IN. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Rain and snow prevailed in the northeastern U.S., with snow reported in New York State. Boston MA was soaked with 2.91 inches of rain during the day and night, and up to half a foot of snow blanketed the hills of Steuben County NY that Tuesday night. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2008 - An EF-1 tornado knocks down numerous tress and powerlines, destroys homes in Leawood and Cammack Village and passes directly over the Little Rock National Weather Service office. Six tornados were confirmed in central Arkansas, but no fatalities were reported.

Interesting how 1967 went from record cold and snow to record highs the last two days Tony.

 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 81 (1967)
NYC: 81 (1981)
LGA: 77 (1967)
JFK: 75 (1967)

 

Lows:

EWR: 24 (1954)
NYC: 24 (1954)
LG: 25 (1954)
JFK: 29 (2008)

 

Historical:

 

1955 - Record snows fell in north central Wyoming and south central Montana. Billings MT received a storm total of 42.3 inches, and on the 4th reported a record snow depth of 35 inches. Sheridan WY established a 24 hour snowfall record of 26.7 inches. (2nd-4th) (The Weather Channel)

1974 - A "Super-Outbreak" of tornadoes ravaged the Midwest and the eastern U.S. Severe weather erupted early in the afternoon and continued through the next day. Severe thunderstorms spawned 148 tornadoes from Alabama to Michigan, most of which occurred between 1 PM (CST) on the 3rd and 1 AM on the 4th. The tornadoes killed 315 persons, injured 5300 others, and caused 600 million dollars damage. Alabama, Kentucky and Ohio were especially hard hit in the tornado outbreak. One tornado destroyed half of the town of Xenia OH killing 34 persons. Another tornado, near the town of Stamping Ground KY, produced a path of destruction a record five miles in width. A tornado raced through Guin AL at a speed of 75 mph. Two powerful tornadoes roared across northern Alabama during the early evening hours, killing fifty persons and injuring 500 others. Some rescue vehicles responding to the first tornado were

1987 - A storm in the southeastern U.S. produced a trace of snow at Mobile, AL, one inch at Jackson MS, and two inches at Meridian MS, the latest snow of record for those three locations. Birmingham AL received seven inches of snow, and up to nine inches was reported in northeast Alabama. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - A wind gust to 114 mph was clocked at Ann Arbor, MI, during a tornadic thunderstorm. Thunderstorms in Michigan and Indiana spawned five tornadoes that Easter Sunday, and also produced golf ball size hail. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Southern Plains to the southern and central Appalachians. The thunderstorms spawned twenty tornadoes, including one which caused eight million dollars damage at Fort Branch IN. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Rain and snow prevailed in the northeastern U.S., with snow reported in New York State. Boston MA was soaked with 2.91 inches of rain during the day and night, and up to half a foot of snow blanketed the hills of Steuben County NY that Tuesday night. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2008 - An EF-1 tornado knocks down numerous tress and powerlines, destroys homes in Leawood and Cammack Village and passes directly over the Little Rock National Weather Service office. Six tornados were confirmed in central Arkansas, but no fatalities were reported.

1987 - A storm in the southeastern U.S. produced a trace of snow at Mobile, AL, one inch at Jackson MS, and two inches at Meridian MS, the latest snow of record for those three locations. Birmingham AL received seven inches of snow, and up to nine inches was reported in northeast Alabama. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) (The National Weather Summary)

 

So we can get suppression even in April ;-)

[SACRUS]

 

NYC  Easter Snow

 

April, 3 1915 : 10 inches of snow - largest of the season

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

too early for planting either way, although I have a large cluster of daffodils in my back yard now (6 have already flowered.)

 

Depends on what. I would wait until after next week for even cold hardy veggies. This is specific for our area which radiates like crap. 

[LibertyBell]

27 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC  Easter Snow

 

April, 3 1915 : 10 inches of snow - largest of the season

almost 20 inches in that storm in Philly!

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Depends on what. I would wait until after next week for even cold hardy veggies. This is specific for our area which radiates like crap. 

It's raining so hard here it could be a damn monsoon!!

Whomever said it wasn't going to rain were very obviously wrong.

I trust the forecasts put out by our local news stations much more than any individual model, because the news station forecasts tend to be right.  Rain for the next 4 days, not all the time, but for a good percentage of the time.  

Experiencing a deluge right now!

I just heard thunder too!

[SACRUS]

 

heavy rain into monmouth

 

[SACRUS]

15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

almost 20 inches in that storm in Philly!

[LibertyBell]

7 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

heavy rain into monmouth

 

There was a break and more heavy rain and thunder has moved in here in SW Nassau

[FPizz]

22 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

heavy rain into monmouth

 

saw a report of over 2" in one hour in Freehold area

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

28 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

There was a break and more heavy rain and thunder has moved in here in SW Nassau

Yep, just ran to 5 corners fitness, in between. Rolling thunder in the distance.

[Brian5671]

Nothing here other than drizzle

[LibertyBell]

8 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yep, just ran to 5 corners fitness, in between. Rolling thunder in the distance.

I love 5 corners, where all the main roads meet lol.  It's still thundering here intermittently.  This is real spring weather, anything can happen at any time (aside from snow of course.)

 

[Rmine1]

Pouring in Brightwaters, and some thunder. Barrier islands getting slammed 

[Cfa]

Getting smoked here near ISP. My PWS getting missed though.

[Stormlover74]

20 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Nothing here other than drizzle

Same. And all the stuff in PA is fizzling 

[bluewave]

19 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

I dont think that's even possible.

The worst drought we had was in 1965 I think

 

The good news is that the NYC reservoirs to our north haven’t been low enough to require water restrictions since 2001-2002. The record dry pattern last fall occurred after one of the wettest periods preceding it. So the NYC reservoirs were OK. But some of the NJ reservoirs closer to the driest anomalies did fall pretty low. We have generally seen slow improvement in the drier conditions last few months. While this fast Pacific flow hasn’t been great for snowfall, it has remained wet enough overall to avoid anything approaching what we had back in the 1960s. 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I love 5 corners, where all the main roads meet lol.  It's still thundering here intermittently.  This is real spring weather, anything can happen at any time (aside from snow of course.)

 

Yeah we live close to each other. Good to keep honest on obs! 

[LibertyBell]

58 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah we live close to each other. Good to keep honest on obs! 

I'm 10-15 minutes from there.  I use three weather station data, 2 in Lynbrook, one in Valley Stream and one in Oceanside.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I'm 10-15 minutes from there.  I use three weather station data, 2 in Lynbrook, one in Valley Stream and one in Oceanside.

Yeah I’m one house from malverne on Franklin. I’m still getting to know the area. Grew up in wantagh, 4 years in Maryland for college and then 7 years in Long Beach. Definitely miss Long Beach for obvious reasons, but this area is super convenient to anywhere and it snows just a little bit more.

[LibertyBell]

9 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

Yeah I’m one house from malverne on Franklin. I’m still getting to know the area. Grew up in wantagh, 4 years in Maryland for college and then 7 years in Long Beach. Definitely miss Long Beach for obvious reasons, but this area is super convenient to anywhere and it snows just a little bit more.

Yep, my advice is west of Oceanside and north of Island Park is good!

Lots of birds around here for birdwatching too, I don't know if they're here because of the stuff I planted or if they were always here and I just started noticing them since I got a birding camera, but I never knew so many different bird species live so close to the city.

There's one I haven't ID'ed yet, it looks like a very large starling but it has a large fan shaped tail which it opens and closes.  It's a dark brown color.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

The good news is that the NYC reservoirs to our north haven’t been low enough to require water restrictions since 2001-2002. The record dry pattern last fall occurred after one of the wettest periods preceding it. So the NYC reservoirs were OK. But some of the NJ reservoirs closer to the driest anomalies did fall pretty low. We have generally seen slow improvement in the drier conditions last few months. While this fast Pacific flow hasn’t been great for snowfall, it has remained wet enough overall to avoid anything approaching what we had back in the 1960s. 

I noticed that the fast Pac flow makes it drier in the fall and winter but wetter in the Spring.  I wonder if it will go back to drier again as the jet stream moves north for the Summer.

1966 would have been my favorite summer (never experienced it but just reading about it) and 1966-67 would have been my favorite winter of that decade.

 

[lee59]

Occasional light rain and drizzle here all day, since midnight .08 inch of rain.

[TheClimateChanger]

3 hours ago, SACRUS said:

Wow, and that month was an outright torch nationwide, with most of the Midwest from 9 to 12 degrees warmer than normal!

For the record, this is before they started juicing the "normals" to disguise the secular warming trend from the public. So, Philadelphia's 57.3F was considered to be 6.5F above normal, whereas today, it would only be considered to be 2.8F above normal.

[Feen]

GFS is interesting for next week

[bluewave]

30 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I noticed that the fast Pac flow makes it drier in the fall and winter but wetter in the Spring.  I wonder if it will go back to drier again as the jet stream moves north for the Summer.

1966 would have been my favorite summer (never experienced it but just reading about it) and 1966-67 would have been my favorite winter of that decade.

 

Our dry months these days have mostly been the result of record 500mb ridges getting stuck in place like we saw in SEP, OCT, and JAN. But as soon as the blocks fade the rains return. In the old days the drier patterns were more a result of a cooler atmosphere holding less moisture. Now the atmospheric moisture is at record levels with serious flooding occurring in many locations like to our SW recently as the fast Pacific Jet encounters the Southeast Ridge. 

[BxEngine]

What a miserable day. Ugh

[FPizz]

20 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Wow, and that month was an outright torch nationwide, with most of the Midwest from 9 to 12 degrees warmer than normal!

For the record, this is before they started juicing the "normals" to disguise the secular warming trend from the public. So, Philadelphia's 57.3F was considered to be 6.5F above normal, whereas today, it would only be considered to be 2.8F above normal.

Or maybe there wasn't that many years on record yet so "normals" weren't quite figured out?  Many places didn't even have stations yet.