Picard Posted Friday at 01:45 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:45 PM Looks like it's incoming shortly. I was just saying to someone that a sunny 15-20 degree day with no wind and snow on the ground is nicer than a day like today in the upper 30s, damp, raw, and breezy. I don't think they were sold. Seeing a bit of spring snow tonight would make it worth it though. We'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Friday at 02:08 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:08 PM it looks like the debate of locking clocks is back with President Donald Trump has voiced support for making daylight saving time permanent. Seems like competing bills are back on the slate. Id still expect neither are made into law and we remain on the current DST (Mid Mar - Mid Mar) / ST (Mid Nov - mid Mar). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniblab Posted Friday at 02:10 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:10 PM 1 hour ago, Sundog said: All architecture post 1940s is horrendous. That's the general rule. As a retired ironworker I can tell you some of the building designs were horrendous to look at and put together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted Friday at 02:22 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:22 PM 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: I forgot to add this to my other post-- how do we reconcile this pattern with the horrible flooding and entire towns almost being wiped out in the south and lower midwest with all the historic flooding there. One mayor said that the waters came within 1 foot of wiping out her entire town and causing a mass casualty event (the waters came within 1 foot of topping the dam.) Yeah, the flooding has been terrible in those areas. A warmer atmosphere holds more moisture.So all the Great Lakes cutters focus the heaviest rains in those areas with the Gulf Inflow from the record SSTs there. Rainfall has been closer to average here recently as these systems tend to dry out crossing the mountains. So we have been spared the extreme flooding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 02:38 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:38 PM 29 minutes ago, SACRUS said: it looks like the debate of locking clocks is back with President Donald Trump has voiced support for making daylight saving time permanent. Seems like competing bills are back on the slate. Id still expect neither are made into law and we remain on the current DST (Mid Mar - Mid Mar) / ST (Mid Nov - mid Mar). yeah not happening-each solution has its owns issues (Earlier summer sunsets) (Winter sunrises too late) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted Friday at 02:46 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:46 PM 7 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: yeah not happening-each solution has its owns issues (Earlier summer sunsets) (Winter sunrises too late) I don't think it affects summer sunsets, but yeah, mid winter sunrises would be well after 8:00 AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 02:51 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:51 PM 4 minutes ago, Picard said: I don't think it affects summer sunsets, but yeah, mid winter sunrises would be well after 8:00 AM. Summer would go to 7:30pm from 8:30pm if we went to permanent standard time. (EST) Winter sunrises would be around 8:20 in Dec/Jan--later for locations further west if we did permanent DST 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Friday at 03:04 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:04 PM 11 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Summer would go to 7:30pm from 8:30pm if we went to permanent standard time. (EST) Winter sunrises would be around 8:20 in Dec/Jan--later for locations further west if we did permanent DST Hundreds of millions of people arund the world have a sunrise between 8 and 9 AM in winter. Who cares if we can have a sunset of 530PM in the dead of winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted Friday at 03:05 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:05 PM Seems like we could see as little as half an inch to over 1.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted Friday at 03:07 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:07 PM 16 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Summer would go to 7:30pm from 8:30pm if we went to permanent standard time. (EST) Winter sunrises would be around 8:20 in Dec/Jan--later for locations further west if we did permanent DST The longest summer days are already at 8:30 sunset time in this area, as we are on DST from Early March-Early November. Making DST permanent would only impact on the remaining four months of the calendar year, as we would be eliminating the "Fall Back" in early November. Whenever this discussion comes up, it quickly becomes confusing for a lot of people, which is why it would be interesting if it passed, because I don't think a lot of folks understand what it will actually do (or not do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted Friday at 03:08 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:08 PM 3 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Seems like we could see as little as half an inch to over 1.5" i was hoping for more model agreement by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 03:21 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:21 PM 16 minutes ago, Sundog said: Hundreds of millions of people arund the world have a sunrise between 8 and 9 AM in winter. Who cares if we can have a sunset of 530PM in the dead of winter. we close schools for a dusting of snow, we are not sending kids to school in the dark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Friday at 03:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:26 PM 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: we close schools for a dusting of snow, we are not sending kids to school in the dark... We already send kids out to school in the dark! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 03:28 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:28 PM 2 minutes ago, Sundog said: We already send kids out to school in the dark! lol high school yes-elementary no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted Friday at 03:29 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:29 PM 2 hours ago, MANDA said: and from what I've read in high winds you can feel the sway.....no thanks. I mean they have tuned mass dampeners, which is a big weight at the top of the building that counters the sway. But yeah, if the winds cranking it can only do so much. None of those super talls were there yet for sandy. Other then the one under construction which is significantly shorter at 1,000’ and look what happened there. I would have to imagine in a sandy redux you would not want to be near the top of those buildings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 03:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:36 PM 30 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Seems like we could see as little as half an inch to over 1.5" seems like areas west of NYC will be favored for the bigger amts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Friday at 03:58 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:58 PM 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Friday at 04:00 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:00 PM It's coming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted Friday at 04:15 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:15 PM 38 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: seems like areas west of NYC will be favored for the bigger amts Most likely but others have it over the city and LI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 04:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:25 PM 9 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Most likely but others have it over the city and LI who knows. Upton busted hard here today-not a drop of rain...last couple of events have been poorly forecast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Friday at 04:31 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:31 PM 32 minutes ago, MJO812 said: That's accumulating snow. Before sunrise, heavy rates. It would be really something if we woke up to a sloppy inch Saturday morning. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Friday at 04:32 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:32 PM 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: high school yes-elementary no School starts 8AM for everyone in NYC, Pre-K through 12th grade. Some high schoolers start earlier if they have a split schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Friday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:35 PM Every single model has turned this into a snow event north and west, or even wet non accumulating snow for parts of the coast. A couple models have some accumulation for parts of the coast as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 04:41 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:41 PM 30 minutes ago, Sundog said: Every single model has turned this into a snow event north and west, or even wet non accumulating snow for parts of the coast. A couple models have some accumulation for parts of the coast as well. Areas that get heavy rates have a chance...Crazy for 4/12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Friday at 05:24 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:24 PM 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: high school yes-elementary no we could also shorten the school day, I don't see a reason why school should begin before 9 AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted Friday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:25 PM loving the temps not loving the rain..been a coat hoodie hat gloves week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Friday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:25 PM 52 minutes ago, Sundog said: School starts 8AM for everyone in NYC, Pre-K through 12th grade. Some high schoolers start earlier if they have a split schedule. I say shift school to an hour later and begin at 9 AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Friday at 05:26 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:26 PM 54 minutes ago, Sundog said: That's accumulating snow. Before sunrise, heavy rates. It would be really something if we woke up to a sloppy inch Saturday morning. How does this differ from the Tax Day Noreaster in 2007? I remember we were supposed to get some snow at the end of that storm and it ended up south of in coastal NJ lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted Friday at 05:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:36 PM 10 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I say shift school to an hour later and begin at 9 AM. that's what they would have to do Nov/Dec/Jan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted Friday at 05:49 PM Share Posted Friday at 05:49 PM 2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: I mean they have tuned mass dampeners, which is a big weight at the top of the building that counters the sway. But yeah, if the winds cranking it can only do so much. None of those super talls were there yet for sandy. Other then the one under construction which is significantly shorter at 1,000’ and look what happened there. I would have to imagine in a sandy redux you would not want to be near the top of those buildings. It would be cool if you knew someone in one of these towers that would let you come over during high wind events.While I wouldn’t want to experience it all the time, it would be interesting to see what it was like at least once. Almost reminds me of one of those theme park attractions. I actually had a fiend who lived in the West End of Long Beach in a 2nd story unit which was built on lally columns. His ceiling lamp would sway and he had creaking noises when the winds went over 50mph. https://www.dezeen.com/2021/02/05/floods-and-high-winds-plague-residents-of-rafael-vinolys-432-park-avenue/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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