April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[MJO812]

1 hour ago, psv88 said:

49 today. Enough of this crap 

Have to wait till May

[psv88]

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

Have to wait till May

No. Just need 55 or higher. Today was probably our last day in the 40s. Next week forward mid 50s or higher than we can step up to 60s. 

[Sundog]

5 hours ago, psv88 said:

No. Just need 55 or higher. Today was probably our last day in the 40s. Next week forward mid 50s or higher than we can step up to 60s. 

I think Saturday might stay in the 40s. 

[LibertyBell]

8 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Have to wait till May

We won't be below 50 for highs again after this week.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

I think Saturday might stay in the 40s. 

Yes, the new season starts on Sunday lol

[SnoSki14]

16 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

We won't be below 50 for highs again after this week.

Next weekend if Euro cutoff idea is correct for following weekend 

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

Next weekend if Euro cutoff idea is correct for following weekend 

Looks like the OP for next weekend is a cold outlier among its ensembles as the low should be further north instead cutting off south. But it still looks like more rain will be possible. The good news is that it appears like the drought could possibly be behind us. But we will need confirmation either way next several months to confirm.

OP looks too cold vs ensemble 

 

 

 

 

[Stormlover74]

Lol

[SACRUS]

 

50 / 34 off a low of 31.  Clouds moving in and wont be movin out till later Sunday.  In between 1 - 2 inches of rain Fri and Saturday.   Drier and warmer next week 4/14 - 4/18 but nothing that significant.    Ridging and more sustained warmth (above normal) into the week of April 21.

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR:  82 (2017)
NYC: 86 (1922)
LGA:  82 (1955)


Lows:

EWR:  28 (1997)
NYC: 28 (1997)
LGA: 29 (1985)

Historical:

 

1894 - A heavy late season snow blanketed parts of the northeastern U.S. Heavier snowfall totals included 31.5 inches at Salem Corners PA, 30 inches at LeRoy NY, 26 inches at York PA, 14 inches at Waterbury CT, and 9 inches at Providence RI. (The Weather Channel)

1935 - Severe dust storms across Iowa and Kansas closed schools and highways. Dodge City KS experienced its worst dust storm of record, with dense dust reported from the morning of the 9th until after sunset on the 11th. The sky was almost as dark as night at times during the daylight hours. The thick dust suspended traffic on highways and railroads, and also suspended most business in town. (The Weather Channel)

 

1979 - A massive tornado smashed into Wichita Falls, TX, killing 43 persons and causing 300 million dollars damage. Another tornado struck Vernon TX killing eleven persons. (David Ludlum) (Storm Data)

1979: This day was known as "Terrible Tuesday" to the residents of Wichita Falls, Texas as a tornado rated F4 on the Fujita scale ripped through the city. A massive F4 tornado smashed into Wichita Falls killing 43 persons and causing 300 million dollars in damage. Another tornado struck Vernon, Texas killing eleven persons.

1987 - Blustery northwest winds prevailed across the Northern Plains Region. Winds in Wyoming gusted to 65 mph. Temperatures in North Dakota were only in the 20s and 30s, following afternoon highs in the 70s the previous day. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Unseasonably warm weather prevailed in the western U.S. Eleven cities reported new record high temperatures for the date, including Bakersfield CA with a reading of 95 degrees, their warmest for so early in the season. Pocatello ID warmed from a record low of 19 above to an afternoon high of 63 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Strong northerly winds, gusting to 53 mph at Albuquerque, NM, ushered cold arctic air into the south central U.S. The temperature at Albuquerque plunged from 82 degrees to 29 degrees overnight. Thirty-three cities in the central U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date, including Goodland KS with a reading of 4 degrees above zero. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Central Gulf Coast Region to western sections of the Carolinas during the afternoon and evening. Evening thunderstorms over western South Carolina produced wind gusts to 98 mph which injured four persons at Holly Springs, and wind gusts to 100 mph which injured one person and caused half a million dollars damage north of Dacusville. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2005 - Heavy snow affected the Colorado Rockies during April 10-11, as up to 30 inches of snow affected the mountains around Denver. In the Denver metro area, 10-15 inches of snow accumulated.

[jm1220]

32 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Lol

Can’t buy a flake in Feb, now we catch up. 

[LibertyBell]

4 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Next weekend if Euro cutoff idea is correct for following weekend 

we have more of these coming up? whatever happened to that se ridge that's supposed to be a permanent presence in our region?

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

Lol

so this +nao in winter and -nao in spring is actually a thing lol

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, bluewave said:

Looks like the OP for next weekend is a cold outlier among its ensembles as the low should be further north instead cutting off south. But it still looks like more rain will be possible. The good news is that it appears like the drought could possibly be behind us. But we will need confirmation either way next several months to confirm.

OP looks too cold vs ensemble 

 

 

 

 

we really don't need any more rain for a month.

I'm sure we will have a few more dry months, especially during the summer.

This is around the time it's supposed to rain.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR:  82 (2017)
NYC: 86 (1922)
LGA:  82 (1955)


Lows:

EWR:  28 (1997)
NYC: 28 (1997)
LGA: 29 (1985)

Historical:

 

1894 - A heavy late season snow blanketed parts of the northeastern U.S. Heavier snowfall totals included 31.5 inches at Salem Corners PA, 30 inches at LeRoy NY, 26 inches at York PA, 14 inches at Waterbury CT, and 9 inches at Providence RI. (The Weather Channel)

1935 - Severe dust storms across Iowa and Kansas closed schools and highways. Dodge City KS experienced its worst dust storm of record, with dense dust reported from the morning of the 9th until after sunset on the 11th. The sky was almost as dark as night at times during the daylight hours. The thick dust suspended traffic on highways and railroads, and also suspended most business in town. (The Weather Channel)

 

1979 - A massive tornado smashed into Wichita Falls, TX, killing 43 persons and causing 300 million dollars damage. Another tornado struck Vernon TX killing eleven persons. (David Ludlum) (Storm Data)

1979: This day was known as "Terrible Tuesday" to the residents of Wichita Falls, Texas as a tornado rated F4 on the Fujita scale ripped through the city. A massive F4 tornado smashed into Wichita Falls killing 43 persons and causing 300 million dollars in damage. Another tornado struck Vernon, Texas killing eleven persons.

1987 - Blustery northwest winds prevailed across the Northern Plains Region. Winds in Wyoming gusted to 65 mph. Temperatures in North Dakota were only in the 20s and 30s, following afternoon highs in the 70s the previous day. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Unseasonably warm weather prevailed in the western U.S. Eleven cities reported new record high temperatures for the date, including Bakersfield CA with a reading of 95 degrees, their warmest for so early in the season. Pocatello ID warmed from a record low of 19 above to an afternoon high of 63 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Strong northerly winds, gusting to 53 mph at Albuquerque, NM, ushered cold arctic air into the south central U.S. The temperature at Albuquerque plunged from 82 degrees to 29 degrees overnight. Thirty-three cities in the central U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date, including Goodland KS with a reading of 4 degrees above zero. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from the Central Gulf Coast Region to western sections of the Carolinas during the afternoon and evening. Evening thunderstorms over western South Carolina produced wind gusts to 98 mph which injured four persons at Holly Springs, and wind gusts to 100 mph which injured one person and caused half a million dollars damage north of Dacusville. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2005 - Heavy snow affected the Colorado Rockies during April 10-11, as up to 30 inches of snow affected the mountains around Denver. In the Denver metro area, 10-15 inches of snow accumulated.

1894 - A heavy late season snow blanketed parts of the northeastern U.S. Heavier snowfall totals included 31.5 inches at Salem Corners PA, 30 inches at LeRoy NY, 26 inches at York PA, 14 inches at Waterbury CT, and 9 inches at Providence RI. (The Weather Channel)

 

anything from this in NYC Tony? 9 inches at Providence should mean at least a few inches here.

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, bluewave said:

Looks like the OP for next weekend is a cold outlier among its ensembles as the low should be further north instead cutting off south. But it still looks like more rain will be possible. The good news is that it appears like the drought could possibly be behind us. But we will need confirmation either way next several months to confirm.

OP looks too cold vs ensemble 

 

 

 

 

I don't trust any of these models, even today is mostly sunny.

 

[donsutherland1]

26 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

1894 - A heavy late season snow blanketed parts of the northeastern U.S. Heavier snowfall totals included 31.5 inches at Salem Corners PA, 30 inches at LeRoy NY, 26 inches at York PA, 14 inches at Waterbury CT, and 9 inches at Providence RI. (The Weather Channel)

 

anything from this in NYC Tony? 9 inches at Providence should mean at least a few inches here.

1.0".

[Feen]

could we get an inch saturday morning please!??!?

[jm1220]

Just now, Feen said:

could we get an inch saturday morning please!??!?

Depending on the model it might not be much, since the low might be occluding which means the broad scale lift decreases. Might be spokes of lighter rain and generally misty garbage on gusty east winds. Plenty of that the last few springs. Can't wait for this season to be over hopefully sometime in May and move into longer warm/dry periods. Mon and Tue could be okay next week but looks like more wet/raw garbage later in the week. 

[Feen]

euro 12z is colder and has some snow for the area. Could this turn into March 22nd 1998?

[Brian5671]

2 minutes ago, Feen said:

euro 12z is colder and has some snow for the area. Could this turn into March 22nd 1998?

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, jm1220 said:

Depending on the model it might not be much, since the low might be occluding which means the broad scale lift decreases. Might be spokes of lighter rain and generally misty garbage on gusty east winds. Plenty of that the last few springs. Can't wait for this season to be over hopefully sometime in May and move into longer warm/dry periods. Mon and Tue could be okay next week but looks like more wet/raw garbage later in the week. 

yeah this is why I like a direct winter to summer transition like what we usually get in winters that produce.

I find that winters that have very little snowfall have cold weather dragging on into spring, where it doesn't belong.

Since we didn't get a -nao in winter we're getting it now.

 

[jm1220]

29 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Colder rain here probably, maybe snow down to 500 feet. Yay! 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, jm1220 said:

Colder rain here probably, maybe snow down to 500 feet. Yay! 

empire state building snow??

[rclab]

21 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

empire state building snow??

Liberty you stirred a memory in my aged cranium. I remember, possibly  70’s/80’s, a TV weather show ran a live clip showing large flake snow falling near the top of the Empire State Building. (Apparently it was taken by a visitor as I don’t believe there was a dedicated weather camera in place at that time.) Out side on ground level it was a cold rain. I remember commenting to my family that I don’t envy the parent that has to explain why it’s snowing up there but not down here, I never remember seeing such a demonstration again. Stay well Liberty. As always …

[LibertyBell]

33 minutes ago, rclab said:

Liberty you stirred a memory in my aged cranium. I remember, possibly  70’s/80’s, a TV weather show ran a live clip showing large flake snow falling near the top of the Empire State Building. (Apparently it was taken by a visitor as I don’t believe there was a dedicated weather camera in place at that time.) Out side on ground level it was a cold rain. I remember commenting to my family that I don’t envy the parent that has to explain why it’s snowing up there but not down here, I never remember seeing such a demonstration again. Stay well Liberty. As always …

I remember seeing these going back to my elementary school days -- it always made sense that it's colder as you go up in elevation.  I didn't know anything about inversions back then lol.

I think I learned inversions when our family bought a house in the mountains back when I was in middle school and then I found out that it's often colder in the valleys than it is on the mountain tops.

 

[LibertyBell]

Big helicopter crash in the Hudson, 6 fatalities reported!

[jm1220]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

empire state building snow??

Maybe if I hike up Jayne’s Hill and jump really high I can catch some catpaws. 

[MANDA]

23 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Big helicopter crash in the Hudson, 5 fatalities reported!

Horrible.  I'm hearing 6 deaths including some children. 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Horrible.  I'm hearing 6 deaths including some children. 

Yes it was updated to 6 perished, the 6th one was the pilot.  5 are all from one family, both parents and 3 children :-'(