April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[IrishRob17]

6 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Not out of the 30's here today.  Was 35 at 6am and only 37.6 currently (3:00 p.m.)

There was a midnight high of 46 here overnight but dropped into the 30s just before 6am and have been there ever since. 38/36 currently with occasional drizzle and mist.

[MANDA]

10 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

There was a midnight high of 46 here overnight but dropped into the 30s just before 6am and have been there ever since. 38/36 currently with occasional drizzle and mist.

Same here.  High at mid-night and at least mist and drizzle all day.  Showers move through from time to time.

[LibertyBell]

41 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Not out of the 30's here today.  Was 35 at 6am and only 37.6 currently (3:00 p.m.)

shades of April 2003 (minus the snow of course).

[Stormlover74]

Snowing at the Tigers Yankees game 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Snowing at the Tigers Yankees game 

I was just going to post this!

Why can't we get that here? If it's going to be cold it might as well snow!

 

[SACRUS]

 

hung out at 43 most of the day.  Perhaps the coldest high and maybe low till the fall.

[steve392]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes this year is bad, also there's no drought lol.

Lets hope we don't fizzle out after the spring and jump right into a precip-less summer.

[donsutherland1]

Tomorrow and Wednesday will be unseasonably cool days. High temperatures will likely remain confined to the 40s in New York City through Wednesday. The low temperature on Wednesday morning could be near freezing in New York City and perhaps in the upper 20s outside the City.

It will begin to turn milder after midweek with temperatures approaching near seasonable levels.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was +6.78 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -0.776 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 60% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 53.5° (0.2° below normal).

 

[MJO812]

42 

Love this weather 

[Dark Star]

3 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

Snowing at the Tigers Yankees game 

Last year, the Mets were in jeopardy of having to make up a game missed early in the season due to weather.  Unbalanced schedules and trying to pack too many games in, especially early in the season, is risky.  They got away with it this year, so far.  Opening Day series used to have an off day, just in case there was a weather cancellation.  Too much money involved now to go back to a 154 game schedule.

[Stormlover74]

6 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Last year, the Mets were in jeopardy of having to make up a game missed early in the season due to weather.  Unbalanced schedules and trying to pack too many games in, especially early in the season, is risky.  They got away with it this year, so far.  Opening Day series used to have an off day, just in case there was a weather cancellation.  Too much money involved now to go back to a 154 game schedule.

Nothing has really changed except moving the start date up a week to account for a longer playoff season. I think most teams still get the day after opening day off

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Nothing has really changed except moving the start date up a week to account for a longer playoff season. I think most temlams still get the day after opening day off

Unless they play opening day in a removable dome.

But this year opening day was March 27th, this is ridiculous!

Opening Day should be in the second week of April at the earliest. After April 10th!

Look, it's often warmer in November than it is in March or early April, why are they so opposed to having the playoffs cover the first half of November at least?

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

42 

Love this weather 

The sun comes back tomorrow, YAY

enough of this stupid rain.

[Sundog]

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

42 

Love this weather 

 

I've turned my heat way down because I refuse to pay Con Edison in April and my house is freezing lol

Luckily with Sun tomorrow the house can warm up naturally with the higher insolation. 

[uofmiami]

10 minutes ago, Sundog said:

 

I've turned my heat way down because I refuse to pay Con Edison in April and my house is freezing lol

Luckily with Sun tomorrow the house can warm up naturally with the higher insolation. 

What temp did you turn thermostat down to?

[SACRUS]

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 92 (2010)
NYC: 92 (2010)
LGA:  91 (2010)
JFK: 87 (2010)


Lows:

EWR: 16 (1982)
NYC: 21 (1982)
LGA: 22 (1982)
JFK: 20 (1982)

Records:

 

1857 - A late season freeze brought snow to every state in the Union. Even as far south as Houston TX the mercury plunged to 21 degrees. (David Ludlum)

1929 - Record heat prevailed across New England. Hartford CT reported an afternoon high of 90 degrees. (David Ludlum)

1935 - Amarillo, TX, reported dust obscuring visibility for twenty hours. Blowing dust was reported twenty-seven of thirty days in the month. On several days the visibility was reduced to near zero by the dust. (The Weather Channel)

 

1948: Six tornadoes ripped through Northern Illinois and Indiana; mainly across the southern and eastern suburbs of Chicago. The hardest hit was from a tornado that moved east from near Manteno, IL to near Hebron, Indiana. This storm left four people dead; three in Grant Park, IL and one near Hebron, IN with 67 injuries and over a million dollars damage. Other strong tornadoes in the area moved from near Coal City, IL to Braidwood, IL and from Calumet City, IL into Indiana. Further south, two strong tornadoes occurred across the northern parts of Champaign and Vermilion Counties in Illinois.

1980 - Severe thunderstorms spawned tornadoes which ripped through central Arkansas. The severe thunderstorms also produce high winds and baseball size hail. Five counties were declared disaster areas by President Carter. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - International Falls, MN, with record warm afternoon high of 71 degrees, was warmer than Miami FL, where the high was a record cool 66 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - High winds in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region gusted to 172 mph atop Grandfather Mountain NC. Twenty-nine cities in the southwest and north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Yankton SD with a reading of 91 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Twenty-seven cities in the southwestern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Afternoon highs of 92 degrees in Downtown San Francisco and 104 degrees at Phoenix AZ established records for April. Highs of 78 degrees at Ely NV and 93 degrees at San Jose CA equalled April records. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Low pressure brought strong winds to the Alaska peninsula and the Aleutian Islands. Winds gusted to 68 mph at Port Heiden two days in a row. Unseasonably warm weather prevailed across central Alaska. Yakutat reported a record high of 54 degrees. Unseasonably cold weather prevailed over central sections of the Lower Forty-eight states. A dozen cities from Kansas to Indiana and Alabama reported record low temperatures for the date. Evansville IN equalled their record for April with a morning low of 23 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2010 - A temperature of 80 degrees is measured on Grandfather Mountain, NC, the warmest ever measured in April and three degrees short of the all-time record high for any month.

[Sundog]

33 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

What temp did you turn thermostat down to?

62 degrees. I usually have it at 68 in winter. But with the strong Sun this time of year it should be warmer indoors tomorrow. It's just that it's been cloudy for basically 3+ days now that it allowed it to get so chilly inside.  

[coastalplainsnowman]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Unless they play opening day in a removable dome.

But this year opening day was March 27th, this is ridiculous!

Opening Day should be in the second week of April at the earliest. After April 10th!

Look, it's often warmer in November than it is in March or early April, why are they so opposed to having the playoffs cover the first half of November at least?

 

My guess is because the NFL and college really are a strong draw by then.

My solution is to have the first two weeks of games in the MLB season hosted almost exclusively in domed stadiums or warm weather cities, then make up for that later in the summer in the cold weather cities / undomed stadiums.

 

[uofmiami]

10 minutes ago, Sundog said:

62 degrees. I usually have it at 68 in winter. But with the strong Sun this time of year it should be warmer indoors tomorrow. It's just that it's been cloudy for basically 3+ days now that it allowed it to get so chilly inside.  

Wind won’t help tomorrow once the sun goes down that’s for sure. 

[Sundog]

8 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

Wind won’t help tomorrow once the sun goes down that’s for sure. 

I might cave and put it up a bit so the spouse doesn't get pissed. Otherwise I'd ride it out.  

[SACRUS]

 

Despite the raw day daily departures are still in the -5 EWR to -8 NYC range.  

[LibertyBell]

48 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 92 (2010)
NYC: 92 (2010)
LGA:  91 (2010)
JFK: 87 (2010)


Lows:

EWR: 16 (1982)
NYC: 21 (1982)
LGA: 22 (1982)
JFK: 20 (1982)

Records:

 

1857 - A late season freeze brought snow to every state in the Union. Even as far south as Houston TX the mercury plunged to 21 degrees. (David Ludlum)

1929 - Record heat prevailed across New England. Hartford CT reported an afternoon high of 90 degrees. (David Ludlum)

1935 - Amarillo, TX, reported dust obscuring visibility for twenty hours. Blowing dust was reported twenty-seven of thirty days in the month. On several days the visibility was reduced to near zero by the dust. (The Weather Channel)

 

1948: Six tornadoes ripped through Northern Illinois and Indiana; mainly across the southern and eastern suburbs of Chicago. The hardest hit was from a tornado that moved east from near Manteno, IL to near Hebron, Indiana. This storm left four people dead; three in Grant Park, IL and one near Hebron, IN with 67 injuries and over a million dollars damage. Other strong tornadoes in the area moved from near Coal City, IL to Braidwood, IL and from Calumet City, IL into Indiana. Further south, two strong tornadoes occurred across the northern parts of Champaign and Vermilion Counties in Illinois.

1980 - Severe thunderstorms spawned tornadoes which ripped through central Arkansas. The severe thunderstorms also produce high winds and baseball size hail. Five counties were declared disaster areas by President Carter. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - International Falls, MN, with record warm afternoon high of 71 degrees, was warmer than Miami FL, where the high was a record cool 66 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - High winds in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region gusted to 172 mph atop Grandfather Mountain NC. Twenty-nine cities in the southwest and north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Yankton SD with a reading of 91 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Twenty-seven cities in the southwestern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Afternoon highs of 92 degrees in Downtown San Francisco and 104 degrees at Phoenix AZ established records for April. Highs of 78 degrees at Ely NV and 93 degrees at San Jose CA equalled April records. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Low pressure brought strong winds to the Alaska peninsula and the Aleutian Islands. Winds gusted to 68 mph at Port Heiden two days in a row. Unseasonably warm weather prevailed across central Alaska. Yakutat reported a record high of 54 degrees. Unseasonably cold weather prevailed over central sections of the Lower Forty-eight states. A dozen cities from Kansas to Indiana and Alabama reported record low temperatures for the date. Evansville IN equalled their record for April with a morning low of 23 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2010 - A temperature of 80 degrees is measured on Grandfather Mountain, NC, the warmest ever measured in April and three degrees short of the all-time record high for any month.

1982 and 2010 were both such great years, good to see them decorate the top spots on the leaderboard!!

[LibertyBell]

32 minutes ago, coastalplainsnowman said:

My guess is because the NFL and college really are a strong draw by then.

My solution is to have the first two weeks of games in the MLB season hosted almost exclusively in domed stadiums or warm weather cities, then make up for that later in the summer in the cold weather cities / undomed stadiums.

 

Yes, esthetics aside playing in Pittsburgh and Detroit wasn't a good move lol.

 

[LibertyBell]

50 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 92 (2010)
NYC: 92 (2010)
LGA:  91 (2010)
JFK: 87 (2010)


Lows:

EWR: 16 (1982)
NYC: 21 (1982)
LGA: 22 (1982)
JFK: 20 (1982)

Records:

 

1857 - A late season freeze brought snow to every state in the Union. Even as far south as Houston TX the mercury plunged to 21 degrees. (David Ludlum)

1929 - Record heat prevailed across New England. Hartford CT reported an afternoon high of 90 degrees. (David Ludlum)

1935 - Amarillo, TX, reported dust obscuring visibility for twenty hours. Blowing dust was reported twenty-seven of thirty days in the month. On several days the visibility was reduced to near zero by the dust. (The Weather Channel)

 

1948: Six tornadoes ripped through Northern Illinois and Indiana; mainly across the southern and eastern suburbs of Chicago. The hardest hit was from a tornado that moved east from near Manteno, IL to near Hebron, Indiana. This storm left four people dead; three in Grant Park, IL and one near Hebron, IN with 67 injuries and over a million dollars damage. Other strong tornadoes in the area moved from near Coal City, IL to Braidwood, IL and from Calumet City, IL into Indiana. Further south, two strong tornadoes occurred across the northern parts of Champaign and Vermilion Counties in Illinois.

1980 - Severe thunderstorms spawned tornadoes which ripped through central Arkansas. The severe thunderstorms also produce high winds and baseball size hail. Five counties were declared disaster areas by President Carter. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - International Falls, MN, with record warm afternoon high of 71 degrees, was warmer than Miami FL, where the high was a record cool 66 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - High winds in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region gusted to 172 mph atop Grandfather Mountain NC. Twenty-nine cities in the southwest and north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Yankton SD with a reading of 91 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Twenty-seven cities in the southwestern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Afternoon highs of 92 degrees in Downtown San Francisco and 104 degrees at Phoenix AZ established records for April. Highs of 78 degrees at Ely NV and 93 degrees at San Jose CA equalled April records. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Low pressure brought strong winds to the Alaska peninsula and the Aleutian Islands. Winds gusted to 68 mph at Port Heiden two days in a row. Unseasonably warm weather prevailed across central Alaska. Yakutat reported a record high of 54 degrees. Unseasonably cold weather prevailed over central sections of the Lower Forty-eight states. A dozen cities from Kansas to Indiana and Alabama reported record low temperatures for the date. Evansville IN equalled their record for April with a morning low of 23 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2010 - A temperature of 80 degrees is measured on Grandfather Mountain, NC, the warmest ever measured in April and three degrees short of the all-time record high for any month.

wow in 1857 we had snow in every state on this date?? thats pretty amazing!!

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

20 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

wow in 1857 we had snow in every state on this date?? thats pretty amazing!!

I do not think that’s possible.

scratch that… there were way less states in 1857

[LibertyBell]

4 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I do not think that’s possible.

scratch that… there were way less states in 1857

snow down to Houston is pretty amazing, perhaps Florida had it too?

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I do not think that’s possible.

scratch that… there were way less states in 1857

Did you notice this record-- higher than the hurricane of 1938!!

and in 2010 they set  a new heat record on this date (we all did lol).

 

 

1988 - High winds in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region gusted to 172 mph atop Grandfather Mountain NC. Twenty-nine cities in the southwest and north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Yankton SD with a reading of 91 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

2010 - A temperature of 80 degrees is measured on Grandfather Mountain, NC, the warmest ever measured in April and three degrees short of the all-time record high for any month.

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

30 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Did you notice this record-- higher than the hurricane of 1938!!

and in 2010 they set  a new heat record on this date (we all did lol).

 

 

1988 - High winds in the Middle Atlantic Coast Region gusted to 172 mph atop Grandfather Mountain NC. Twenty-nine cities in the southwest and north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Yankton SD with a reading of 91 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

2010 - A temperature of 80 degrees is measured on Grandfather Mountain, NC, the warmest ever measured in April and three degrees short of the all-time record high for any month.

While that sounds like a really impressive gust, the obs just a few feet under 6,000. Mt. Washington offen gusts that high. And has gusted to 231mph. 

[coastalplainsnowman]

2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

I do not think that’s possible.

scratch that… there were way less states in 1857

I was thinking the same, and as it turns out there were 31 states.  But the 31 already included the ones where it would be toughest to have snow, like Florida.  BTW, since I encountered this while looking into it, here's what the flag looked like in 1857:

[MJO812]

Freeze warning for NYC tonight