LibertyBell Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 38 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: It's been nice and sunny for 2 hours now and into the lower 60s here. It peaked in the mid 60s here (64) before the heavy overcast moved back in. Why don't these crappy storms ever rain themselves out? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Don, parts of New York City could see some snow ? New York State. Typo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 35 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Yeah your right. That was off the top of my head, should have looked it up to confirm. Even at that elevation, that is an incredible wind speed from a hurricane, this far north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 15 minutes ago, lee59 said: Even at that elevation, that is an incredible wind speed from a hurricane, this far north. Westhampton 111 mph sustained (cat 3 confirmed!) 156 mph gusts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 So by looking at the forecasts, Monday is going to be rainy. Clearing and colder Tuesday and Wednesday, Wednesday morning lows near freezing even in the city. Clouds come in Thursday, rain Thursday night, Friday and Saturday, Sunday cloudy but dry and the really good weather comes in for Monday and Tuesday the following week, sunny and warm, near 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Looks like Wednesday will be the last freeze potential for NYC until next fall or winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 44 minutes ago, bluewave said: Looks like Wednesday will be the last freeze potential for NYC until next fall or winter. Our latest freeze since 2020, Chris? I remember we had snow in May that year but I'm not sure how late our last freeze was. If it wasn't that year then the only other season I can think of with a very late freeze since 1996 and 2003 would be 2014 when we had accumulating snow on April 16th..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 45 minutes ago, bluewave said: Looks like Wednesday will be the last freeze potential for NYC until next fall or winter. Interesting the GFS has Westhampton above freezing but NYC below freezing, usually FOK is much colder than Central Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 29 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Our latest freeze since 2020, Chris? I remember we had snow in May that year but I'm not sure how late our last freeze was. If it wasn't that year then the only other season I can think of with a very late freeze since 1996 and 2003 would be 2014 when we had accumulating snow on April 16th..... The latest last freeze over the past decade for NYC was 4-10-16. Frost/Freeze Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYEach section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Minimum 03-01 (2020) 10-31 (2020) 218 Mean 03-27 11-19 236 Maximum 04-10 (2016) 12-09 (2016) 2024 03-24 (2024) 31 11-30 (2024) 30 250 2023 03-30 (2023) 31 11-25 (2023) 30 239 2022 03-30 (2022) 29 11-19 (2022) 31 233 2021 04-03 (2021) 32 11-23 (2021) 32 233 2020 03-01 (2020) 25 10-31 (2020) 32 243 2019 03-18 (2019) 32 11-08 (2019) 29 234 2018 04-09 (2018) 32 11-14 (2018) 32 218 2017 03-23 (2017) 23 11-10 (2017) 25 231 2016 04-10 (2016) 31 12-09 (2016) 29 242 2015 04-01 (2015) 32 11-24 (2015) 32 236 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 40 and showers here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 39 and rain here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 What an atrocious raw day. Other than the 4 hours last Saturday and some breaks of sun here and there where temps can spike, horrible last couple weeks. And it looks to continue. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 53 minutes ago, bluewave said: The latest last freeze over the past decade for NYC was 4-10-16. Frost/Freeze Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYEach section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Minimum 03-01 (2020) 10-31 (2020) 218 Mean 03-27 11-19 236 Maximum 04-10 (2016) 12-09 (2016) 2024 03-24 (2024) 31 11-30 (2024) 30 250 2023 03-30 (2023) 31 11-25 (2023) 30 239 2022 03-30 (2022) 29 11-19 (2022) 31 233 2021 04-03 (2021) 32 11-23 (2021) 32 233 2020 03-01 (2020) 25 10-31 (2020) 32 243 2019 03-18 (2019) 32 11-08 (2019) 29 234 2018 04-09 (2018) 32 11-14 (2018) 32 218 2017 03-23 (2017) 23 11-10 (2017) 25 231 2016 04-10 (2016) 31 12-09 (2016) 29 242 2015 04-01 (2015) 32 11-24 (2015) 32 236 Did 2014 have a later freeze than this though since we had accumulating snow on 4-16-2014? Funny that 2016 had such a late freeze even though it was such a mild winter (though it did have our last below zero temp on VD.) It's very weird that 2020 had such an early last freeze and yet we had snow in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 15 minutes ago, jm1220 said: What an atrocious raw day. Other than the 4 hours last Saturday and some breaks of sun here and there where temps can spike, horrible last couple weeks. And it looks to continue. it really should be better than this. I know that people say it's spring bla bla bla, but aside from 1982 and 1996, our Aprils and Mays were much warmer and drier than this between the late 70s and early 00s. We had far fewer -nao springs back then too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 16 minutes ago, jm1220 said: What an atrocious raw day. Other than the 4 hours last Saturday and some breaks of sun here and there where temps can spike, horrible last couple weeks. And it looks to continue. Tuesday and Wednesday will be okay with lots of sunshine and after the next cut off passes we should have a nice stretch of warm sunny weather after next Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 18 minutes ago, jm1220 said: What an atrocious raw day. Other than the 4 hours last Saturday and some breaks of sun here and there where temps can spike, horrible last couple weeks. And it looks to continue. All the clouds, wind, and rain has made the 7th warmest start to average spring high temperatures feel much cooler. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending 03-01 to 04-06 warmest average high temperature 1 1945-04-06 60.7 0 2 1921-04-06 59.4 0 3 2012-04-06 59.3 0 4 1946-04-06 58.4 0 5 2010-04-06 57.8 0 6 2016-04-06 56.9 0 7 2025-04-06 56.6 0 8 2000-04-06 56.4 0 9 2020-04-06 55.9 0 10 1985-04-06 55.6 0 - 1903-04-06 55.6 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Just now, bluewave said: All the clouds, wind, and rain has made the 7th warmest start to spring high temperatures feel much cooler. Time Series Summary for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1945-04-06 60.7 0 2 1921-04-06 59.4 0 3 2012-04-06 59.3 0 4 1946-04-06 58.4 0 5 2010-04-06 57.8 0 6 2016-04-06 56.9 0 7 2025-04-06 56.6 0 8 2000-04-06 56.4 0 9 2020-04-06 55.9 0 10 1985-04-06 55.6 0 - 1903-04-06 55.6 0 It's why we really can't go by average temperatures, I prefer to use high temperatures for a true measure of warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: It's why we really can't go by average temperatures, I prefer to use high temperatures for a true measure of warmth. Those are the average high temperatures as 56.6° in NYC is the 6th warmest start to spring on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: Those are the average high temperatures as 56.6° in NYC is the 6th warmest start to spring on record. Just for highs? It's weird because it doesn't feel all that warm. 2010 and 2012 I know were really warm, outside of those two years, I can't think of another warm spring in recent years. We seem to always have these -nao springs now, especially since 2002. I remember Larry did some research showing that -nao in spring and +nao in winter have become much more common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: Our latest freeze since 2020, Chris? I remember we had snow in May that year but I'm not sure how late our last freeze was. If it wasn't that year then the only other season I can think of with a very late freeze since 1996 and 2003 would be 2014 when we had accumulating snow on April 16th..... I remember that. Was doing yard work and all of a sudden i was like WTF? ITS MAY!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 minute ago, steve392 said: I remember that. Was doing yard work and all of a sudden i was like WTF? ITS MAY!! I was in the Poconos for that, we had rain changing to snow Friday evening with 1-3 inches and another inch or so on Saturday with temps in the 20s (lows in the teens) and wind chills near 0 with almost constant snow squalls! And it warmed up in time for thunderstorms and hail on Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 40 / 38 cloudy and some misty drizzle. Cloudy and cool today. Drier and still cool on Tuesday with more winds. Wed looks to be the nicest day of the work week before clouds return Thu and a wetter weekend comes up. Warmer by mid month but nothing looks sustained and it looks to continue to include several rain chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Just for highs? It's weird because it doesn't feel all that warm. 2010 and 2012 I know were really warm, outside of those two years, I can't think of another warm spring in recent years. We seem to always have these -nao springs now, especially since 2002. I remember Larry did some research showing that -nao in spring and +nao in winter have become much more common. It’s been one of the warmest starts to spring we have seen. But even +6 to +7 for high temperatures is still going to feel cool with all the clouds,rain, and wind. We are just too close to the ocean to get a summer in March like they had in the Midwest back in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 25 minutes ago, bluewave said: It’s been one of the warmest starts to spring we have seen. But even +6 to +7 for high temperatures is still going to feel cool with all the clouds,rain, and wind. We are just too close to the ocean to get a summer in March like they had in the Midwest back in 2012. We were warmer in 2010 and 2012 too I remember both springs were great. I am curious about April in the late 70s, how did we have so many 90 degrees in April back then between 1976 and 1978? The winters were much colder, but spring was warmer? I heard they had 8 inches of snow in the Texas Panhandle wow! Does the Texas Panhandle normally get more snow than we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 49 minutes ago, steve392 said: I remember that. Was doing yard work and all of a sudden i was like WTF? ITS MAY!! I think it was May 9th 2020, my pool was being opened, and we were having a snow shower. I'm not sure what the lows were around that time though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, FPizz said: I think it was May 9th 2020, my pool was being opened, and we were having a snow shower. I'm not sure what the lows were around that time though. I think around 34 here. I remember it was on the anniversary of the great May 9-10 1977 snowstorm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 24 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: We were warmer in 2010 and 2012 too I remember both springs were great. I am curious about April in the late 70s, how did we have so many 90 degrees in April back then between 1976 and 1978? The winters were much colder, but spring was warmer? I heard they had 8 inches of snow in the Texas Panhandle wow! Does the Texas Panhandle normally get more snow than we do? The highs at places like JFK have been tied with 2012 and 2010 around 56.0°. Time Series Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending March 1 through April 6th high temperatures 1 2012-04-06 56.7 0 2 2025-04-06 56.3 0 - 2010-04-06 56.3 0 3 2016-04-06 54.9 0 - 1973-04-06 54.9 0 4 1985-04-06 54.8 0 5 2020-04-06 54.6 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, jm1220 said: What an atrocious raw day. Other than the 4 hours last Saturday and some breaks of sun here and there where temps can spike, horrible last couple weeks. And it looks to continue. Temperatures are way above normal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 39 and nasty out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 11 minutes ago, Dark Star said: Temperatures are way above normal... Highs have been closer to average but lows have been warm with all the clouds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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