JerseyWx Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:11 PM 3 hours ago, TWCCraig said: It's a problem when a 75+ degree day in March is talked about like it's "just a nice spring day", but 40 and rain in April is "well below average". I think some have an unrealistic expectation that the weather should be 60+ daily in the spring and that just isn't the case in the northeast. People do want warmer weather which is part of the reason why many move south. I always look at the record lows and see how much colder it could be, that should be put into perspective when people want to talk about how cold it is. It's been said before, people are getting used to the warmer weather. The general public wouldn't bat an eye if April was +3, but they would if it was -3, that's for sure. Well if you consider the average high right now is probably around 58 or so, depending on where you are of course, asking for some nice days in the low 60's isn't really a stretch. I mean it's 36 right now at 1pm, and last week it barely hit 40 with full sun. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:16 PM 18 minutes ago, FPizz said: How much rain did you get? I'm away and my station seems off at 1.07" I got 1.43" here. Nice soaking. I'm glad we're out of the drought now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Saturday at 05:20 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:20 PM 22 minutes ago, FPizz said: How much rain did you get? I'm away and my station seems off at 1.07" Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:32 PM 12 minutes ago, Sundog said: Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area: Thanks, yeah, that 1.15 is pretty close to me actually 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 06:08 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:08 PM 1 hour ago, bluewave said: That was in 2020 leading up to the record May snowfall. April 2002 was only a little warmer than average by modern standards. But the warmth from the 13th to 19th was very impressive. Climatological Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - April 2002Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 1963 1396 - - 330 68 3.76 T - Average 65.4 46.5 56.0 2.7 - - - - 0.0 Normal 62.6 44.1 53.3 - 363 14 3.87 0.5 2002-04-01 62 45 53.5 5.7 11 0 0.07 0.0 0 2002-04-02 58 39 48.5 0.3 16 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-03 77 41 59.0 10.4 6 0 0.05 0.0 0 2002-04-04 52 37 44.5 -4.4 20 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-05 44 33 38.5 -10.8 26 0 T T 0 2002-04-06 49 32 40.5 -9.2 24 0 T T 0 2002-04-07 49 28 38.5 -11.6 26 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-08 62 40 51.0 0.5 14 0 T 0.0 0 2002-04-09 77 55 66.0 15.1 0 1 0.07 0.0 0 2002-04-10 67 48 57.5 6.2 7 0 0.01 0.0 0 2002-04-11 57 47 52.0 0.3 13 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-12 55 43 49.0 -3.1 16 0 0.06 0.0 0 2002-04-13 74 54 64.0 11.5 1 0 0.07 0.0 0 2002-04-14 74 55 64.5 11.6 0 0 0.09 0.0 0 2002-04-15 82 58 70.0 16.8 0 5 0.02 0.0 0 2002-04-16 92 64 78.0 24.4 0 13 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-17 97 68 82.5 28.5 0 18 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-18 93 74 83.5 29.1 0 19 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-19 91 63 77.0 22.2 0 12 0.59 0.0 0 2002-04-20 69 54 61.5 6.4 3 0 0.23 0.0 0 2002-04-21 56 48 52.0 -3.5 13 0 0.01 0.0 0 2002-04-22 58 42 50.0 -5.9 15 0 0.29 0.0 0 2002-04-23 56 39 47.5 -8.7 17 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-24 61 37 49.0 -7.6 16 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-25 52 43 47.5 -9.4 17 0 0.50 0.0 0 2002-04-26 61 40 50.5 -6.8 14 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-27 65 38 51.5 -6.1 13 0 0.03 0.0 0 2002-04-28 57 48 52.5 -5.5 12 0 1.54 0.0 0 2002-04-29 57 43 50.0 -8.3 15 0 T 0.0 0 2002-04-30 59 40 49.5 -9.1 15 0 0.13 0.0 0 dry and warm with the clearest blue skies I've ever seen, quite simply the ideal weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 06:11 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:11 PM 49 minutes ago, Sundog said: Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area: that 3.20 and that 0.08 (both in Nassau County) are off by a lot lol With that said, rainfall amounts dropped off a lot east of Nassau County. We got a little over an inch here. Do they have a similar product for snowfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 06:12 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:12 PM 1 hour ago, MJO812 said: Next Saturday looks like a washout I have tickets to the Mets game Really? I thought that storm was going to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted Saturday at 06:23 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:23 PM 11 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: that 3.20 and that 0.08 (both in Nassau County) are off by a lot lol With that said, rainfall amounts dropped off a lot east of Nassau County. We got a little over an inch here. Do they have a similar product for snowfall? Snowfall isn't listed as a choice sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted Saturday at 06:28 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:28 PM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted Saturday at 06:42 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:42 PM I got zero not 1 to 2 inches, odd map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted Saturday at 07:18 PM Share Posted Saturday at 07:18 PM Stuck in the low 30's all day here with mist, drizzle and some sleet mixed in at times. Everything pretty much melted on paved surfaces. Still some depth 1/2" - 3/4" on the colder surfaces. Was just outside and things a bit slick under foot with temperatures hanging around 33 degrees currently. Might be some black ice issues overnight if temperature drops to or just below freezing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted Saturday at 08:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:48 PM Clouds will break tomorrow with the temperature approaching but falling just short of seasonable levels. Monday and Tuesday will be somewhat awrmer than normal before another surge of cooler air moves into the region by the middle of next week. Milder air will likely return to end the week. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring. Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal). The SOI was +17.30 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.421 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.5° (1.2° below normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:50 PM 1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said: Clouds will break tomorrow with the temperature approaching but falling just short of seasonable levels. Monday and Tuesday will be somewhat awrmer than normal before another surge of cooler air moves into the region by the middle of next week. Milder air will likely return to end the week. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring. Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal). The SOI was +17.30 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.151 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.5° (1.2° below normal). Don was LGA the only one of the city stations/local airports to record a Trace of snowfall today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted Saturday at 08:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:54 PM 39 and drizzle here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted Saturday at 08:56 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:56 PM 5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Don was LGA the only one of the city stations/local airports to record a Trace of snowfall today? Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted Saturday at 09:40 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:40 PM 4 hours ago, JerseyWx said: Well if you consider the average high right now is probably around 58 or so, depending on where you are of course, asking for some nice days in the low 60's isn't really a stretch. I mean it's 36 right now at 1pm, and last week it barely hit 40 with full sun. I'm not saying that asking for average temps is a stretch but everyday isn't average, especially with how springs (particularly April) are around here it's tough to expect sustained nice weather. I'm just saying if it was a week of 75+, not many would complain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted Saturday at 10:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:06 PM 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow. Teterboro recorded a trace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted Saturday at 10:22 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:22 PM 39 for a high here. Coldest high/max since Mar 2nd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted Saturday at 11:10 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:10 PM Got 4" here so far. Had some melting down to about 2". Had a sleety rain from about 11am to 5pm. Then had moderate snow from 6pm till now. Currently snow falling. 33.6° Sticking only on vehicles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM 1 hour ago, TWCCraig said: I'm not saying that asking for average temps is a stretch but everyday isn't average, especially with how springs (particularly April) are around here it's tough to expect sustained nice weather. I'm just saying if it was a week of 75+, not many would complain. I agree, which is why I dislike those "teases" where we hit 80 for a day during the 3rd week of March. Inevitably it will turn ugly again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:21 PM 8 hours ago, MJO812 said: Some nice totals in interior SNE Higher totals in interior SE NY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted Saturday at 11:28 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:28 PM 3 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: I agree, which is why I dislike those "teases" where we hit 80 for a day during the 3rd week of March. Inevitably it will turn ugly again. Completely normal for mid March to late April. That's why you dont plant tomatoes here till May 15th here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted yesterday at 12:05 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:05 AM 36 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: Completely normal for mid March to late April. That's why you dont plant tomatoes here till May 15th here. I guess it depends on where you're at, around here we've not had a freeze later than April 20th in my lifetime. Or one earlier than October 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted yesterday at 02:07 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:07 AM Do people think this looks right? Seems overdone for me, especially at lower elevations... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted yesterday at 03:46 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:46 AM 6 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow. Apologies in advance if this was already mentioned (took a quick look at the last few pages and didn't see it referenced), but is this not the 2nd latest recorded snowfall, if not the latest, in the last 50 years there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted yesterday at 09:25 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:25 AM 7 hours ago, RU848789 said: Do people think this looks right? Seems overdone for me, especially at lower elevations... It's a few inches over for me. I had a few tenths of crusty goo not 4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted yesterday at 11:19 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:19 AM The most surprising thing about this storm is how little snow has melted in 24 hours considering it's the middle of April. I ended up with 2 1/2 to 3 inches of snow on various parts of my property I ended the day yesterday With about the same snow depth. I wake up this morning to about 2 inches of snow on the ground. What happened to that sun angle that some people start to talk about in the middle of February? I would think the middle of April it really would've done a job yesterday even with a cloud cover. Same sun angle in the middle of April as late August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted yesterday at 11:44 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:44 AM 9 hours ago, RU848789 said: Do people think this looks right? Seems overdone for me, especially at lower elevations... Not even close, way too much everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted yesterday at 12:00 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:00 PM 8 hours ago, coastalplainsnowman said: Apologies in advance if this was already mentioned (took a quick look at the last few pages and didn't see it referenced), but is this not the 2nd latest recorded snowfall, if not the latest, in the last 50 years there? This wasn’t that big of a deal. Since LGA had accumulating snow and not just a T a few days later back in 2014. Then a T on 5-9-20. Maybe if the low temperatures were really cold like the maxes were yesterday they could have had a light accumulation. 2014-04-16 47 32 39.5 -14.4 25 0 0.05 0.2 2020-05-09 49 36 42.5 -19.2 22 0 0.03 T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted yesterday at 12:06 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:06 PM 6 minutes ago, bluewave said: This wasn’t that big of a deal. Since LGA had accumulating snow and not just a T a few days later back in 2014. Then a T on 5-9-20. Maybe if the low temperatures were really cold like the maxes were yesterday they could have had a light accumulation. 2014-04-16 47 32 39.5 -14.4 25 0 0.05 0.2 2020-05-09 49 36 42.5 -19.2 22 0 0.03 T The big deal was this kind of weird late season cold/snowfall isn't supposed to be happening anymore, so this is likely a one in 20 year event we just saw. It's very rare to even get a T of snow after April 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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