April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[JerseyWx]

3 hours ago, TWCCraig said:

It's a problem when a 75+ degree day in March is talked about like it's "just a nice spring day", but 40 and rain in April is "well below average". I think some have an unrealistic expectation that the weather should be 60+ daily in the spring and that just isn't the case in the northeast. People do want warmer weather which is part of the reason why many move south. I always look at the record lows and see how much colder it could be, that should be put into perspective when people want to talk about how cold it is. It's been said before, people are getting used to the warmer weather. The general public wouldn't bat an eye if April was +3, but they would if it was -3, that's for sure.

Well if you consider the average high right now is probably around 58 or so, depending on where you are of course, asking for some nice days in the low 60's isn't really a stretch.  I mean it's 36 right now at 1pm, and last week it barely hit 40 with full sun.  

[winterwx21]

18 minutes ago, FPizz said:

How much rain did you get? I'm away and my station seems off at 1.07"

I got 1.43" here. Nice soaking. I'm glad we're out of the drought now. 

[Sundog]

22 minutes ago, FPizz said:

How much rain did you get? I'm away and my station seems off at 1.07"

Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area:

 

[FPizz]

12 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area:

 

Thanks, yeah, that 1.15 is pretty close to me actually 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

That was in 2020 leading up to the record May snowfall. April 2002 was only a little warmer than average by modern standards. But the warmth from the 13th to 19th was very impressive. 

 

Climatological Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - April 2002
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Sum	1963	1396	-	-	330	68	3.76	T	-
Average	65.4	46.5	56.0	2.7	-	-	-	-	0.0
Normal	62.6	44.1	53.3	-	363	14	3.87	0.5
2002-04-01	62	45	53.5	5.7	11	0	0.07	0.0	0
2002-04-02	58	39	48.5	0.3	16	0	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-03	77	41	59.0	10.4	6	0	0.05	0.0	0
2002-04-04	52	37	44.5	-4.4	20	0	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-05	44	33	38.5	-10.8	26	0	T	T	0
2002-04-06	49	32	40.5	-9.2	24	0	T	T	0
2002-04-07	49	28	38.5	-11.6	26	0	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-08	62	40	51.0	0.5	14	0	T	0.0	0
2002-04-09	77	55	66.0	15.1	0	1	0.07	0.0	0
2002-04-10	67	48	57.5	6.2	7	0	0.01	0.0	0
2002-04-11	57	47	52.0	0.3	13	0	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-12	55	43	49.0	-3.1	16	0	0.06	0.0	0
2002-04-13	74	54	64.0	11.5	1	0	0.07	0.0	0
2002-04-14	74	55	64.5	11.6	0	0	0.09	0.0	0
2002-04-15	82	58	70.0	16.8	0	5	0.02	0.0	0
2002-04-16	92	64	78.0	24.4	0	13	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-17	97	68	82.5	28.5	0	18	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-18	93	74	83.5	29.1	0	19	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-19	91	63	77.0	22.2	0	12	0.59	0.0	0
2002-04-20	69	54	61.5	6.4	3	0	0.23	0.0	0
2002-04-21	56	48	52.0	-3.5	13	0	0.01	0.0	0
2002-04-22	58	42	50.0	-5.9	15	0	0.29	0.0	0
2002-04-23	56	39	47.5	-8.7	17	0	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-24	61	37	49.0	-7.6	16	0	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-25	52	43	47.5	-9.4	17	0	0.50	0.0	0
2002-04-26	61	40	50.5	-6.8	14	0	0.00	0.0	0
2002-04-27	65	38	51.5	-6.1	13	0	0.03	0.0	0
2002-04-28	57	48	52.5	-5.5	12	0	1.54	0.0	0
2002-04-29	57	43	50.0	-8.3	15	0	T	0.0	0
2002-04-30	59	40	49.5	-9.1	15	0	0.13	0.0	0

 

dry and warm with the clearest blue skies I've ever seen,  quite simply the ideal weather

[LibertyBell]

49 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area:

 

that 3.20 and that 0.08 (both in Nassau County) are off by a lot lol

With that said, rainfall amounts dropped off a lot east of Nassau County.

We got a little over an inch here.

Do they have a similar product for snowfall?

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, MJO812 said:

Next Saturday looks like a washout

I have tickets to the Mets game 

Really? I thought that storm was going to miss.

[Sundog]

11 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

that 3.20 and that 0.08 (both in Nassau County) are off by a lot lol

With that said, rainfall amounts dropped off a lot east of Nassau County.

We got a little over an inch here.

Do they have a similar product for snowfall?

 

Snowfall isn't listed as a choice sadly. 

[uofmiami]

 

[qg_omega]

I got zero not 1 to 2 inches, odd map

[MANDA]

Stuck in the low 30's all day here with mist, drizzle and some sleet mixed in at times.  Everything pretty much melted on paved surfaces. Still some depth 1/2" - 3/4" on the colder surfaces.  Was just outside and things a bit slick under foot with temperatures hanging around 33 degrees currently.  Might be some black ice issues overnight if temperature drops to or just below freezing.

[donsutherland1]

Clouds will break tomorrow with the temperature approaching but falling just short of seasonable levels. Monday and Tuesday will be somewhat awrmer than normal before another surge of cooler air moves into the region by the middle of next week. Milder air will likely return to end the week.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was +17.30 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.421 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.5° (1.2° below normal).

 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said:

Clouds will break tomorrow with the temperature approaching but falling just short of seasonable levels. Monday and Tuesday will be somewhat awrmer than normal before another surge of cooler air moves into the region by the middle of next week. Milder air will likely return to end the week.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was +17.30 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.151 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.5° (1.2° below normal).

 

Don was LGA the only one of the city stations/local airports to record a Trace of snowfall today?

 

[MJO812]

39 and drizzle here

[donsutherland1]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Don was LGA the only one of the city stations/local airports to record a Trace of snowfall today?

 

Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow.

[TWCCraig]

4 hours ago, JerseyWx said:

Well if you consider the average high right now is probably around 58 or so, depending on where you are of course, asking for some nice days in the low 60's isn't really a stretch.  I mean it's 36 right now at 1pm, and last week it barely hit 40 with full sun.  

I'm not saying that asking for average temps is a stretch but everyday isn't average, especially with how springs (particularly April) are around here it's tough to expect sustained nice weather. I'm just saying if it was a week of 75+, not many would complain.

[steve392]

1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow.

Teterboro recorded a trace

[SACRUS]

 

39 for a high here. Coldest high/max since Mar 2nd.

[sussexcountyobs]

Got 4" here so far. Had some melting down to about 2". Had a sleety rain from about 11am to 5pm. Then had moderate snow from 6pm till now. Currently snow falling. 33.6° Sticking only on vehicles. 

[JerseyWx]

1 hour ago, TWCCraig said:

I'm not saying that asking for average temps is a stretch but everyday isn't average, especially with how springs (particularly April) are around here it's tough to expect sustained nice weather. I'm just saying if it was a week of 75+, not many would complain.

I agree, which is why I dislike those "teases" where we hit 80 for a day during the 3rd week of March.  Inevitably it will turn ugly again.

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

8 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Some nice totals in interior SNE

 

Higher totals in interior SE NY. 

[sussexcountyobs]

3 minutes ago, JerseyWx said:

I agree, which is why I dislike those "teases" where we hit 80 for a day during the 3rd week of March.  Inevitably it will turn ugly again.

Completely normal for mid March to late April.  That's why you dont plant tomatoes here  till May 15th here. 

[LibertyBell]

36 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said:

Completely normal for mid March to late April.  That's why you dont plant tomatoes here  till May 15th here. 

I guess it depends on where you're at, around here we've not had a freeze later than April 20th in my lifetime.

Or one earlier than October 15th.

[RU848789]

Do people think this looks right? Seems overdone for me, especially at lower elevations...

[coastalplainsnowman]

6 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow.

Apologies in advance if this was already mentioned (took a quick look at the last few pages and didn't see it referenced), but is this not the 2nd latest recorded snowfall, if not the latest, in the last 50 years there?