JerseyWx Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 1:28 PM, TWCCraig said: It's a problem when a 75+ degree day in March is talked about like it's "just a nice spring day", but 40 and rain in April is "well below average". I think some have an unrealistic expectation that the weather should be 60+ daily in the spring and that just isn't the case in the northeast. People do want warmer weather which is part of the reason why many move south. I always look at the record lows and see how much colder it could be, that should be put into perspective when people want to talk about how cold it is. It's been said before, people are getting used to the warmer weather. The general public wouldn't bat an eye if April was +3, but they would if it was -3, that's for sure. Expand Well if you consider the average high right now is probably around 58 or so, depending on where you are of course, asking for some nice days in the low 60's isn't really a stretch. I mean it's 36 right now at 1pm, and last week it barely hit 40 with full sun. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 4:57 PM, FPizz said: How much rain did you get? I'm away and my station seems off at 1.07" Expand I got 1.43" here. Nice soaking. I'm glad we're out of the drought now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 4:57 PM, FPizz said: How much rain did you get? I'm away and my station seems off at 1.07" Expand Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 5:20 PM, Sundog said: Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area: Expand Thanks, yeah, that 1.15 is pretty close to me actually 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 4:44 PM, bluewave said: That was in 2020 leading up to the record May snowfall. April 2002 was only a little warmer than average by modern standards. But the warmth from the 13th to 19th was very impressive. Climatological Data for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - April 2002Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Sum 1963 1396 - - 330 68 3.76 T - Average 65.4 46.5 56.0 2.7 - - - - 0.0 Normal 62.6 44.1 53.3 - 363 14 3.87 0.5 2002-04-01 62 45 53.5 5.7 11 0 0.07 0.0 0 2002-04-02 58 39 48.5 0.3 16 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-03 77 41 59.0 10.4 6 0 0.05 0.0 0 2002-04-04 52 37 44.5 -4.4 20 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-05 44 33 38.5 -10.8 26 0 T T 0 2002-04-06 49 32 40.5 -9.2 24 0 T T 0 2002-04-07 49 28 38.5 -11.6 26 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-08 62 40 51.0 0.5 14 0 T 0.0 0 2002-04-09 77 55 66.0 15.1 0 1 0.07 0.0 0 2002-04-10 67 48 57.5 6.2 7 0 0.01 0.0 0 2002-04-11 57 47 52.0 0.3 13 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-12 55 43 49.0 -3.1 16 0 0.06 0.0 0 2002-04-13 74 54 64.0 11.5 1 0 0.07 0.0 0 2002-04-14 74 55 64.5 11.6 0 0 0.09 0.0 0 2002-04-15 82 58 70.0 16.8 0 5 0.02 0.0 0 2002-04-16 92 64 78.0 24.4 0 13 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-17 97 68 82.5 28.5 0 18 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-18 93 74 83.5 29.1 0 19 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-19 91 63 77.0 22.2 0 12 0.59 0.0 0 2002-04-20 69 54 61.5 6.4 3 0 0.23 0.0 0 2002-04-21 56 48 52.0 -3.5 13 0 0.01 0.0 0 2002-04-22 58 42 50.0 -5.9 15 0 0.29 0.0 0 2002-04-23 56 39 47.5 -8.7 17 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-24 61 37 49.0 -7.6 16 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-25 52 43 47.5 -9.4 17 0 0.50 0.0 0 2002-04-26 61 40 50.5 -6.8 14 0 0.00 0.0 0 2002-04-27 65 38 51.5 -6.1 13 0 0.03 0.0 0 2002-04-28 57 48 52.5 -5.5 12 0 1.54 0.0 0 2002-04-29 57 43 50.0 -8.3 15 0 T 0.0 0 2002-04-30 59 40 49.5 -9.1 15 0 0.13 0.0 0 Expand dry and warm with the clearest blue skies I've ever seen, quite simply the ideal weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 5:20 PM, Sundog said: Looks like it could still be correct with a bit variation across the area: Expand that 3.20 and that 0.08 (both in Nassau County) are off by a lot lol With that said, rainfall amounts dropped off a lot east of Nassau County. We got a little over an inch here. Do they have a similar product for snowfall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 4:42 PM, MJO812 said: Next Saturday looks like a washout I have tickets to the Mets game Expand Really? I thought that storm was going to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 6:11 PM, LibertyBell said: that 3.20 and that 0.08 (both in Nassau County) are off by a lot lol With that said, rainfall amounts dropped off a lot east of Nassau County. We got a little over an inch here. Do they have a similar product for snowfall? Expand Snowfall isn't listed as a choice sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I got zero not 1 to 2 inches, odd map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Stuck in the low 30's all day here with mist, drizzle and some sleet mixed in at times. Everything pretty much melted on paved surfaces. Still some depth 1/2" - 3/4" on the colder surfaces. Was just outside and things a bit slick under foot with temperatures hanging around 33 degrees currently. Might be some black ice issues overnight if temperature drops to or just below freezing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Clouds will break tomorrow with the temperature approaching but falling just short of seasonable levels. Monday and Tuesday will be somewhat awrmer than normal before another surge of cooler air moves into the region by the middle of next week. Milder air will likely return to end the week. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring. Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal). The SOI was +17.30 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.421 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.5° (1.2° below normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 8:48 PM, donsutherland1 said: Clouds will break tomorrow with the temperature approaching but falling just short of seasonable levels. Monday and Tuesday will be somewhat awrmer than normal before another surge of cooler air moves into the region by the middle of next week. Milder air will likely return to end the week. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring. Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal). The SOI was +17.30 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +2.151 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.5° (1.2° below normal). Expand Don was LGA the only one of the city stations/local airports to record a Trace of snowfall today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 39 and drizzle here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 8:50 PM, LibertyBell said: Don was LGA the only one of the city stations/local airports to record a Trace of snowfall today? Expand Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 5:11 PM, JerseyWx said: Well if you consider the average high right now is probably around 58 or so, depending on where you are of course, asking for some nice days in the low 60's isn't really a stretch. I mean it's 36 right now at 1pm, and last week it barely hit 40 with full sun. Expand I'm not saying that asking for average temps is a stretch but everyday isn't average, especially with how springs (particularly April) are around here it's tough to expect sustained nice weather. I'm just saying if it was a week of 75+, not many would complain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 8:56 PM, donsutherland1 said: Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow. Expand Teterboro recorded a trace 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 39 for a high here. Coldest high/max since Mar 2nd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Got 4" here so far. Had some melting down to about 2". Had a sleety rain from about 11am to 5pm. Then had moderate snow from 6pm till now. Currently snow falling. 33.6° Sticking only on vehicles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 9:40 PM, TWCCraig said: I'm not saying that asking for average temps is a stretch but everyday isn't average, especially with how springs (particularly April) are around here it's tough to expect sustained nice weather. I'm just saying if it was a week of 75+, not many would complain. Expand I agree, which is why I dislike those "teases" where we hit 80 for a day during the 3rd week of March. Inevitably it will turn ugly again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 3:00 PM, MJO812 said: Some nice totals in interior SNE Expand Higher totals in interior SE NY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 On 4/12/2025 at 11:21 PM, JerseyWx said: I agree, which is why I dislike those "teases" where we hit 80 for a day during the 3rd week of March. Inevitably it will turn ugly again. Expand Completely normal for mid March to late April. That's why you dont plant tomatoes here till May 15th here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2025 at 11:28 PM, sussexcountyobs said: Completely normal for mid March to late April. That's why you dont plant tomatoes here till May 15th here. Expand I guess it depends on where you're at, around here we've not had a freeze later than April 20th in my lifetime. Or one earlier than October 15th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Do people think this looks right? Seems overdone for me, especially at lower elevations... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/12/2025 at 8:56 PM, donsutherland1 said: Yes. None of the other local airports recorded any snow. Expand Apologies in advance if this was already mentioned (took a quick look at the last few pages and didn't see it referenced), but is this not the 2nd latest recorded snowfall, if not the latest, in the last 50 years there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/13/2025 at 2:07 AM, RU848789 said: Do people think this looks right? Seems overdone for me, especially at lower elevations... Expand It's a few inches over for me. I had a few tenths of crusty goo not 4". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 The most surprising thing about this storm is how little snow has melted in 24 hours considering it's the middle of April. I ended up with 2 1/2 to 3 inches of snow on various parts of my property I ended the day yesterday With about the same snow depth. I wake up this morning to about 2 inches of snow on the ground. What happened to that sun angle that some people start to talk about in the middle of February? I would think the middle of April it really would've done a job yesterday even with a cloud cover. Same sun angle in the middle of April as late August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/13/2025 at 2:07 AM, RU848789 said: Do people think this looks right? Seems overdone for me, especially at lower elevations... Expand Not even close, way too much everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/13/2025 at 3:46 AM, coastalplainsnowman said: Apologies in advance if this was already mentioned (took a quick look at the last few pages and didn't see it referenced), but is this not the 2nd latest recorded snowfall, if not the latest, in the last 50 years there? Expand This wasn’t that big of a deal. Since LGA had accumulating snow and not just a T a few days later back in 2014. Then a T on 5-9-20. Maybe if the low temperatures were really cold like the maxes were yesterday they could have had a light accumulation. 2014-04-16 47 32 39.5 -14.4 25 0 0.05 0.2 2020-05-09 49 36 42.5 -19.2 22 0 0.03 T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 4/13/2025 at 12:00 PM, bluewave said: This wasn’t that big of a deal. Since LGA had accumulating snow and not just a T a few days later back in 2014. Then a T on 5-9-20. Maybe if the low temperatures were really cold like the maxes were yesterday they could have had a light accumulation. 2014-04-16 47 32 39.5 -14.4 25 0 0.05 0.2 2020-05-09 49 36 42.5 -19.2 22 0 0.03 T Expand The big deal was this kind of weird late season cold/snowfall isn't supposed to be happening anymore, so this is likely a one in 20 year event we just saw. It's very rare to even get a T of snow after April 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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