April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[LibertyBell]

21 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

2.6" on the board at 6:15am down here at just under 400' elevation. A grass measurement nets be anywhere from .5 to 1.5 more depending on which clump of grass I measure by LOL

Excellent Rob.  I've heard around 3 inches in the Poconos too and another 3 inches expected today/tonight.

[LibertyBell]

9 hours ago, jm1220 said:

Also GFS says maybe we salvage Tuesday but Monday looks like it's more backdoor onshore flow gunk. April can't get over with soon enough. 

at least it will be sunny both days.  No precip on Sunday either and the sun comes out in the afternoon.

[LibertyBell]

7 hours ago, NepaJames8602 said:

Full transition to wet snow just occurred here 15 min ago on the Pocono plateau; at 2,075' feet. It will be interesting by morning.

3 inches for you? That's what I'm hearing for the Poconos and another 3 could fall today/tonight.

[LibertyBell]

55 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said:

Just measured 3.25" on colder surfaces. Still snowing

Yes they just announced on WABC that Sussex county will be the jackpot for this storm.

 

5 inches report from High Point, NJ !

 

[SRRTA22]

Sleet again

[LibertyBell]

Just now, SRRTA22 said:

Sleet again

That must be where the changeover line is.

[Snowlover11]

nasty accident on 87 just pass the Palisades Parkway.

[NepaJames8602]

4 inches of a heavy wet mess this morning in my part of the Poconos so far.

 

[JerseyWx]

1 hour ago, Picard said:

2.25" on the grass, less on the sidewalk and pavement, but all surfaces covered.  32F with moderate snow.  Nice!

Wow that's crazy.  I'm close to 700ft and have a light coating at best on the grass and colder tables, deck, etc.  Not even a half inch.

[the_other_guy]

Im shocked to see snow on the deck in Westchester! 35F

[IrishRob17]

Moderate to heavy snow again now 33/32

[Picard]

Just finishing up a heavy band that lasted about a half hour.
I'm up to 3" on parts of the grass and 1.5" on the street.  No plows have been through.
 

[MJO812]

Saw snowflakes this morning where I work in northern Brooklyn in NYC.

36 here

Awesome to see

[LibertyBell]

41 minutes ago, NepaJames8602 said:

4 inches of a heavy wet mess this morning in my part of the Poconos so far.

 

still snowing hard? you might end up with 6.

 

[LibertyBell]

33 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Saw snowflakes this morning where I work in northern Brooklyn in NYC.

36 here

Awesome to see

Not really, unless there is going to be a snowstorm, this is useless, better to be 70 and sunny.

What was your low for this morning, 36?

[SACRUS]

 

38 / 36 cloudy and light rain. Rain some snow / sleet mixing north.  Precip ends or dries up overnight.  Sunday still looks mainly cloudy.  Much warmer and overall drier week (outside Monday night / Tue light rain) coming up but nothing significantly above normal through the 19th.  Easter weekend looking better on the recent forecasts.  Warmer final week to 9 days of the month with ridging coming into the east at times and not as wet (TBD).

 

[SACRUS]

 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

38 / 36 cloudy and light rain. Rain some snow / sleet mixing north.  Precip ends or dries up overnight.  Sunday still looks mainly cloudy.  Much warmer and overall drier week (outside Monday night / Tue light rain) coming up but nothing significantly above normal through the 19th.  Easter weekend looking better on the recent forecasts.  Warmer final week to 9 days of the month with ridging coming into the east at times and not as wet (TBD).

 

Yay no more useless cutoff next weekend!

also brightening may occur tomorrow afternoon, with patches of sunshine.

These storms typically exit quicker than forecast

Monday and Tuesday should both be at least partly sunny as the rain will only occur during the night.

[Dark Star]

Some sleet mixed in, Garwood NJ, central Union County, NJ.  Never precipitated heavy enough for snow. At 5 AM, nothing was coming down...

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 90 (1977)
NYC: 90 (1977)
LGA: 86 (1977)
JFK: 90 (1977)

Lows:

EWR: 27 (1976)
NYC: 22 (1874)
LGA: 29 (1976)
JFK: 28 (1976)

Historical:

 

Historical:

 

1927 - A tornado wiped out the town of Rock Springs, TX, killing 72 persons and causing 1.2 million dollars damage. The tornado, more than one mile in width, destroyed 235 of 247 buildings, leaving no trace of lumber or contents in many cases. Many survivors were bruised by large hail which fell after the passage of the tornado. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1934 - Winds atop Mount Washington, NH, averaged 186 mph for five minutes, with a peak gust of 231 mph, the highest wind speed ever clocked in the world. (David Ludlum)

 

1945: A series of significant tornadoes raked Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, and Illinois. Antlers, Oklahoma were nearly obliterated by a massive F5 tornado that zigzagged from southwest to northeast across the town. 69 people died in the twister. Another tornado killed eight people in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The disaster was overshadowed by the loss of President Franklin Roosevelt, who died suddenly at his vacation home at Warm Springs, Georgia. 

1987 - A cold front crossing the central U.S. produced heavy snow in the Central Rockies, and severe thunderstorms over Kansas and Oklahoma. Snowfall totals ranged up to 16 inches at Red Mountain Pass CO. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 87 mph at Ponca City OK. Winds associated with the cold front itself gusted to 69 mph at Tucumcari NM. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Snow blanketed the Southern Appalachians. Totals in North Carolina ranged up to 17 inches at Mitchell. Winds at Flat Top Mountain gusted to 80 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Twenty-two cities in the south central and eastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date, including Elkins WV with a low of 15 degrees, and Baton Rouge LA with a reading of 37 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Arctic air invaded the central U.S. Lincoln, NE, reported a record low of 17 degrees. Thunderstorms developing along the arctic cold front produced heavy snow in north central Kansas, wind gusts to 61 mph at Midland TX, and wind gusts to 69 mph at Rawlins WY. Warm weather prevailed in the southwestern U.S. Las Vegas NV reported a record high of 91 degrees, and on the 13th, Sacramento CA reported a record high of 95 degrees. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

2010 - One-inch diamemter hail falls in Fresno, CA. Two condominiums are destroyed by thunderstorms in California's San Joaquin Valley. Up to three funnel clouds were also seen in the region.

[MJO812]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Not really, unless there is going to be a snowstorm, this is useless, better to be 70 and sunny.

What was your low for this morning, 36?

35

[LibertyBell]

8 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 90 (1977)
NYC: 90 (1977)
LGA: 86 (1977)
JFK: 90 (1977)

Lows:

EWR: 27 (1976)
NYC: 22 (1874)
LGA: 29 (1976)
JFK: 28 (1976)

Historical:

 

Historical:

 

1927 - A tornado wiped out the town of Rock Springs, TX, killing 72 persons and causing 1.2 million dollars damage. The tornado, more than one mile in width, destroyed 235 of 247 buildings, leaving no trace of lumber or contents in many cases. Many survivors were bruised by large hail which fell after the passage of the tornado. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1934 - Winds atop Mount Washington, NH, averaged 186 mph for five minutes, with a peak gust of 231 mph, the highest wind speed ever clocked in the world. (David Ludlum)

 

1945: A series of significant tornadoes raked Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, and Illinois. Antlers, Oklahoma were nearly obliterated by a massive F5 tornado that zigzagged from southwest to northeast across the town. 69 people died in the twister. Another tornado killed eight people in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. The disaster was overshadowed by the loss of President Franklin Roosevelt, who died suddenly at his vacation home at Warm Springs, Georgia. 

1987 - A cold front crossing the central U.S. produced heavy snow in the Central Rockies, and severe thunderstorms over Kansas and Oklahoma. Snowfall totals ranged up to 16 inches at Red Mountain Pass CO. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 87 mph at Ponca City OK. Winds associated with the cold front itself gusted to 69 mph at Tucumcari NM. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Snow blanketed the Southern Appalachians. Totals in North Carolina ranged up to 17 inches at Mitchell. Winds at Flat Top Mountain gusted to 80 mph. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Twenty-two cities in the south central and eastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date, including Elkins WV with a low of 15 degrees, and Baton Rouge LA with a reading of 37 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Arctic air invaded the central U.S. Lincoln, NE, reported a record low of 17 degrees. Thunderstorms developing along the arctic cold front produced heavy snow in north central Kansas, wind gusts to 61 mph at Midland TX, and wind gusts to 69 mph at Rawlins WY. Warm weather prevailed in the southwestern U.S. Las Vegas NV reported a record high of 91 degrees, and on the 13th, Sacramento CA reported a record high of 95 degrees. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

2010 - One-inch diamemter hail falls in Fresno, CA. Two condominiums are destroyed by thunderstorms in California's San Joaquin Valley. Up to three funnel clouds were also seen in the region.

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 90 (1977)
NYC: 90 (1977)
LGA: 86 (1977)
JFK: 90 (1977)

Lows:

EWR: 27 (1976)
NYC: 22 (1874)
LGA: 29 (1976)
JFK: 28 (1976)

 

Very funny to go from record cold in 1976 on this date to JFK's earliest 90 degree day on the same date a year later lol. Must have been a northerly or northwesterly winds as LGA was 4 degrees cooler than everyone else.

Even funnier, within a week we went from record cold in 1976 to our earliest heatwave of all time (later matched in 2002) and the all time April high temperature of 96 (also matched in 2002)!!

Global warming, at least not in Spring, our Springs seem to be getting cooler and yuckier LOL.

[snywx]

32 w/ steady light snow falling

3.1” otg here at 850’

[SACRUS]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

 

Global warming, at least not in Spring, our Springs seem to be getting cooler and yuckier LOL.

 

Springs dont seem cooler to me, I just think the weeks or periods like this are just more memorable / frustrating, and we've had plenty of them recently, 90s, 80s, 70s.   The period 4/20 - 4/30 may be what the dr ordered.

[steve392]

1 hour ago, Snowlover11 said:

nasty accident on 87 just pass the Palisades Parkway.

And on the Garden State Parkway on NY/NJ border

[TWCCraig]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

I have zero memory of that storm but I clearly remember April 1982 lol

We remember the big ones lol, especially our first big one.

 

I wrote this in the CC forum but it applies to here too. I went shopping yesterday and talked to a bunch of people about this weather, both left and right.

To be honest I've been talking to a lot of people who wish climate change would accelerate lol. They don't want the crap weather we are having right now, they want 60s-70s and sunny.  The bad thing is this kind of weather we're having actually makes the deniers think they are right, they've been saying, if climate change was a serious problem we wouldn't be getting this kind of weather anymore.

Paradoxically, I think climate change acceleration is the only way to get more people angry and involved.  It has to become a serious life and death situation where it's warm enough to cause disruption to their life. And a large percentage of people actually don't want abnormally cold weather anymore, that's another issue.

 

It's a problem when a 75+ degree day in March is talked about like it's "just a nice spring day", but 40 and rain in April is "well below average". I think some have an unrealistic expectation that the weather should be 60+ daily in the spring and that just isn't the case in the northeast. People do want warmer weather which is part of the reason why many move south. I always look at the record lows and see how much colder it could be, that should be put into perspective when people want to talk about how cold it is. It's been said before, people are getting used to the warmer weather. The general public wouldn't bat an eye if April was +3, but they would if it was -3, that's for sure.

[jm1220]

Maybe 0.5” of drizzly garbage here so far. Congrats to the @IrishRob17s padding their totals. 

[jm1220]

3 minutes ago, TWCCraig said:

It's a problem when a 75+ degree day in March is talked about like it's "just a nice spring day", but 40 and rain in April is "well below average". I think some have an unrealistic expectation that the weather should be 60+ daily in the spring and that just isn't the case in the northeast. People do want warmer weather which is part of the reason why many move south. I always look at the record lows and see how much colder it could be, that should be put into perspective when people want to talk about how cold it is. It's been said before, people are getting used to the warmer weather. The general public wouldn't bat an eye if April was +3, but they would if it was -3, that's for sure.

It’ll be May soon enough which is a March out of this crap. 

[TWCCraig]

1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

It’ll be May soon enough which is a March out of this crap. 

Don't know how much stock to put into it, but the weeklies are below average for most of May, and they were below average for most of April too

[Sundog]

1 minute ago, TWCCraig said:

Don't know how much stock to put into it, but the weeklies are below average for most of May, and they were below average for most of April too

By the time we get to May the averages are so high that even below normal is decently warm to enjoy the outdoors.