April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[LibertyBell]

16 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Maybe if I hike up Jayne’s Hill and jump really high I can catch some catpaws. 

I've always wanted to see it, how far is that hill from where you live?

[LibertyBell]

33 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Big helicopter crash in the Hudson, 6 fatalities reported!

Updated to 6 gone, the pilot and 5 members of the same family (both parents and three children).  Awful Awful news.

[sussexcountyobs]

Currently snowing here in Vernon @ Canistear Reservoir 

[donsutherland1]

Tonight will be cloudy, breezy, and cool. Some showers are likely. A few distant northern and western suburbs could even see a little snow or sleet.

The week will end on a chilly note. A steady rain will develop tomorrow and continue through Saturday. A general 0.50"-1.50" of rain is likely. Temperatures will top out in the 40s in New York City. The temperature could approach seasonable levels by the end of the weekend and then briefly go above normal early next week. However, before the warmth could become established, another surge of cooler air will push into the region by the middle of next week.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was -6.85 yesterday.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.061 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.6° (1.1° below normal).

 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

2 hours ago, rclab said:

Liberty you stirred a memory in my aged cranium. I remember, possibly  70’s/80’s, a TV weather show ran a live clip showing large flake snow falling near the top of the Empire State Building. (Apparently it was taken by a visitor as I don’t believe there was a dedicated weather camera in place at that time.) Out side on ground level it was a cold rain. I remember commenting to my family that I don’t envy the parent that has to explain why it’s snowing up there but not down here, I never remember seeing such a demonstration again. Stay well Liberty. As always …

There is a pent house on top of the Nordstrom tower that has a big patio at like 1500’. That patio is the ultimate weather weenies dream. It’s so high you look over the Empire State Building.

Probably get a few inches at 1500’ in this setup. 

[LibertyBell]

14 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Tonight will be cloudy, breezy, and cool. Some showers are likely. A few distant northern and western suburbs could even see a little snow or sleet.

The week will end on a chilly note. A steady rain will develop tomorrow and continue through Saturday. A general 0.50"-1.50" of rain is likely. Temperatures will top out in the 40s in New York City. The temperature could approach seasonable levels by the end of the weekend and then briefly go above normal early next week. However, before the warmth could become established, another surge of cooler air will push into the region by the middle of next week.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.3°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.1°C for the week centered around April 2. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.23°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.17°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely continue through at least late spring.

Early indications are that summer 2025 will be warmer than normal in the New York City and Philadelphia areas. The potential exists for a much warmer than normal summer (more than 1° above normal).

The SOI was -6.85 yesterday.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.061 today.

Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 68% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal April (1991-2020 normal). April will likely finish with a mean temperature near 52.6° (1.1° below normal).

 

Don where is all this cold coming from with such a positive AO and most of the country being so warm?

 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

There is a pent house on top of the Nordstrom tower that has a big patio at like 1500’. That patio is the ultimate weather weenies dream. It’s so high you look over the Empire State Building.

Probably get a few inches at 1500’ in this setup. 

lol how much to own it or rent it??

[MANDA]

Currently 36.4 degrees with light rain and drizzle.

Just nasty.  Sucks.

I'm ok with the rain but the chilly temperatures need to go 

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

23 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

lol how much to own it or rent it??

 Cool 150,000,000$ that’s the asking price. It’s the highest residence in the world. It’s been sitting on the market for a while though last I heard.

[donsutherland1]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Don where is all this cold coming from with such a positive AO and most of the country being so warm?

 

Northeastern Canada is running colder than normal. Some of that cold air is draining into the Northeast. The AO has less influence now, as wave lengths are shorter.

[RedSky]

Graupel and 40F

 

[Sundog]

The GEMLAM has snow in the northern half of NYC Saturday morning. 

[psv88]

Make it stop. Jesus this is horrific 

[Wannabehippie]

On 4/9/2025 at 4:38 PM, LibertyBell said:

omg it even changed the color of the sand!

all joking aside it's understandable that Sandy pushed sand inland because of its angle of approach and the SE winds.  SE winds are considered our most damaging winds for trees and I wonder how many trees were damaged because of Sandy.

Due to the angle it came inland, how it transitioned basically as it was about to land, from tropical, to a non tropical, but extremely powerful storm. Then how long it stuck around.We may not see that combination again in a long time. We might see something similar, but all those combinations together? That is for smarter people than me to really evaluate.

 

[MJO812]

This weather is awesome. No Swamp ass.

[psv88]

5 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

This weather is awesome. No Swamp ass.

It’s awesome if you enjoy being inside and not doing outdoor activities. 

[jm1220]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

I've always wanted to see it, how far is that hill from where you live?

5 minute drive. 

[jm1220]

2 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

There is a pent house on top of the Nordstrom tower that has a big patio at like 1500’. That patio is the ultimate weather weenies dream. It’s so high you look over the Empire State Building.

Probably get a few inches at 1500’ in this setup. 

Maybe we can arrange for the zookeeper to have it during snow events for him to help NYC break 30” average finally. 

[jm1220]

35 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Make it stop. Jesus this is horrific 

Muhahahahahahaaa

[sussexcountyobs]

After about a 1 hour lull. Snow is falling again. Not sticking.

[vegan_edible]

24 minutes ago, psv88 said:

It’s awesome if you enjoy being inside and not doing outdoor activities. 

this is for real the worst weather you could ask for 

[psv88]

17 minutes ago, vegan_edible said:

this is for real the worst weather you could ask for 

Also if you have kids who play sports they are all out there freezing. Miserable for them 

[Brian5671]

7 minutes ago, psv88 said:

Also if you have kids who play sports they are all out there freezing. Miserable for them 

my son came home from soccer practice looking like a popsicle and the other one umpired a game in a steady light rain--terrible this time of year-rain came in early too

[sussexcountyobs]

This is all nothing out of the ordinary for the first half of April in our parts People have very short memories. 

[sussexcountyobs]

Not too many years ago. On Memorial Day weekend. From an ULL it was 33 degrees and raining. No snow or ice, but 33°. End of May.

[wishcast_hater]

Snowing here - just wet and cold. Running out of pellets for the stove and firewood is all but gone. Gonna have to suck it up and put the HVAC unit to work if it doesn’t warm up soon. Can’t buy flowers till after Mother’s Day otherwise a random frost kills them. I always hated spring more than any other season.


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[LongBeachSurfFreak]

7 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said:

Not too many years ago. On Memorial Day weekend. From an ULL it was 33 degrees and raining. No snow or ice, but 33°. End of May.

That was a really powerful nor’easter for so late in the season. Had some sleet mix in at times on the north shore of Nassua. Air show at jones beach completely canceled. Pretty much a worst case scenario for MDW.

[Picard]

22 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said:

Not too many years ago. On Memorial Day weekend. From an ULL it was 33 degrees and raining. No snow or ice, but 33°. End of May.

That might've been the same one that produced feet of snow in the Adirondacks on Memorial Day Weekend.

[LibertyBell]

 

9 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

That was a really powerful nor’easter for so late in the season. Had some sleet mix in at times on the north shore of Nassua. Air show at jones beach completely canceled. Pretty much a worst case scenario for MDW.

I have dim memories of this, low 40s and sleet? That entire weekend was horrendous!

a T of frozen at LGA I think?

[LibertyBell]

9 hours ago, wishcast_hater said:

Snowing here - just wet and cold. Running out of pellets for the stove and firewood is all but gone. Gonna have to suck it up and put the HVAC unit to work if it doesn’t warm up soon. Can’t buy flowers till after Mother’s Day otherwise a random frost kills them. I always hated spring more than any other season.


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Yes spring is a completely useless season. I loved the 80s and 90s because we usually went straight from winter to summer.