April 2025 Discussion/Obs

[MJO812]

38 here

 

[qg_omega]

Looks above normal for the next week, temps near 70 multiple days

[gravitylover]

5 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

Looks above normal for the next week, temps near 70 multiple days

Not here. Well sorta, 2 of the rainy days might get over 60.

[bluewave]

Thursday and Sunday look like the warmest days coming up. So our next chance for 70s will be on Thursday. Then the next push of 80s on Sunday. Still uncertain if the 80s only make it to Central NJ on Sunday or can come closer to Newark. Probably will be determined by frontal timing. 

 

[snowman19]

44 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

Looks above normal for the next week, temps near 70 multiple days

So much for the record breaking arctic cold, snowstorms and MLB games from Philly to NYC to Boston getting snowed out like JB was hyping last week….

[jm1220]

Here we get to 70 if we have a westerly flow. South all day won’t do it. That’s 50s on the barrier islands and maybe mid 60s where I am. 

[Feen]

1 hour ago, qg_omega said:

Looks above normal for the next week, temps near 70 multiple days

Next Wednesday looks cold and even flurries possible! Below freezing to start!  

[SACRUS]

 

41 / 20 off a low of 33.   Yoyo pattern continues.  Cool and upper 40s today with sunshine.   Not much sunshine the next 4days.  Warm and cloudy and wet with 0.50 - an inch of rain between Thurs and Sunda.  Not a good home opener weather for the Mets.  Any sunshine gets well into the 70s tomorrow and Sunday.  Wettest day looks to be Sat.     Big ridge into the west and subsequent trough into the Northeast 4/8 - 4/12 much cooler - frost/freezes 4/8-4/10.   Beyond there should moderate with a chance of a cutoff low by mid month.

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 83 (1967)
NYC: 81 (1967)
LGA: 79 (1967)
JFK: 73 (1986)

 

Lows:

EWR: 28 (2021)
NYC: 22 (1919)
LGA: 29 (2021)
JFK: 27 (1964)

 

Historical:

 

1975 - The northeastern U.S. was in the grips of a severe storm which produced hurricane force winds along the coast, and two to three feet of snow in Maine and New Hampshire. Winds atop Mount Washington NH gusted to 140 mph. (David Ludlum)

1975 - The biggest snowstorm of record for so late in the season paralyzed Chicago, IL. Up to 20 inches of snow fell in extreme northeastern Illinois, and 10.9 inches of snow closed Chicago's O'Hare Airport. (The Weather Channel)

1982 - Severe thunderstorms spawned fifty-six tornadoes in the central U.S., including seventeen in the Red iver Region of Texas and Oklahoma. The tornadoes claimed thirty lives, and injured 383 other persons. A violent tornado near Messer OK left only the carpet tack strips on the slab of a house it destroyed, and carried a motel sign thirty miles. (The Weather Channel) (Storm Data)

1987 - Eleven cities in Florida reported record low temperatures for the date, including Tallahassee with a reading of 31 degrees. The low of 48 degrees at Key West smashed their previous record for the date by 13 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Thunderstorms produced up to nine inches of rain around New Orleans LA causing 18 million dollars damage. A tornado caused three million dollars damage at Slidell LA. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Strong and gusty winds prevailed from California to Colorado and Wyoming. Winds gusted to 50 mph at Lancaster CA, and reached 85 mph at Berthoud Pass CO. Snow and high winds created blizzard conditions in the Colorado Rockies. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather in North Carolina and Virginia during the afternoon and evening. Thunderstorms produced golf ball size hail, and spawned a tornado near Chester VA which caused half a million dollars damage. A storm system produced snow and gale force winds across northern Michigan, with 8.3 inches of snow reported at Marquette. Temperatures in the north central U.S. soared from morning lows in the 20s and 30s to afternoon highs in the 60s and 70s. Eight cities reported record highs for the date, including Havre MT with a reading of 77 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2005 - Heavy rainfall in the Northeast produced flooding in parts of New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Severe flooding along the Delaware River forced the evacuation of 6,000 residents in New Jersey and over 5,700 in Pennsylvania during the weekend of the 2nd-3rd. Around 3,200 homes in New Jersey were damaged, while one fatality was reported in New York (Associated Press).

2006 - Tornadoes and hail as big as softballs ripped through eight Midwestern states, killing at least 27 people, injuring scores and destroying hundreds of homes. In Tennessee, tornadoes killed 23 people, including an infant and a family of four. Severe thunderstorms, many producing tornadoes, also struck parts of Iowa, Kentucky, Arkansas, Missouri, Ohio, Illinois and Indiana. Strong wind was blamed or at least three deaths in Missouri. The weather service's Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Okla., said it had preliminary reports of 63 tornadoes. The worst damage occurred throughout the Tennessee Valley.

2015 - Late night severe storms produced 80 to 100 mph straight-line winds that caused extensive damage from Hutchinson to Newton and Wichita. An 89 mph wind gust was reported at the Kansas Aviation Museum located in southeast Wichita. (NWS, Wichita, KS)

[SACRUS]

 

NYC  

 

April 2, 2018:  5.5 inches of snow

[FPizz]

30 last night.  

 

 

 

[qg_omega]

32 minutes ago, Feen said:

Next Wednesday looks cold and even flurries possible! Below freezing to start!  

Ok

[LibertyBell]

40 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 83 (1967)
NYC: 81 (1967)
LGA: 79 (1967)
JFK: 73 (1986)

 

Lows:

EWR: 28 (2021)
NYC: 22 (2019)
LGA: 29 (2021)
JFK: 27 (1964)

 

Historical:

 

1975 - The northeastern U.S. was in the grips of a severe storm which produced hurricane force winds along the coast, and two to three feet of snow in Maine and New Hampshire. Winds atop Mount Washington NH gusted to 140 mph. (David Ludlum)

1975 - The biggest snowstorm of record for so late in the season paralyzed Chicago, IL. Up to 20 inches of snow fell in extreme northeastern Illinois, and 10.9 inches of snow closed Chicago's O'Hare Airport. (The Weather Channel)

1982 - Severe thunderstorms spawned fifty-six tornadoes in the central U.S., including seventeen in the Red iver Region of Texas and Oklahoma. The tornadoes claimed thirty lives, and injured 383 other persons. A violent tornado near Messer OK left only the carpet tack strips on the slab of a house it destroyed, and carried a motel sign thirty miles. (The Weather Channel) (Storm Data)

1987 - Eleven cities in Florida reported record low temperatures for the date, including Tallahassee with a reading of 31 degrees. The low of 48 degrees at Key West smashed their previous record for the date by 13 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Thunderstorms produced up to nine inches of rain around New Orleans LA causing 18 million dollars damage. A tornado caused three million dollars damage at Slidell LA. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Strong and gusty winds prevailed from California to Colorado and Wyoming. Winds gusted to 50 mph at Lancaster CA, and reached 85 mph at Berthoud Pass CO. Snow and high winds created blizzard conditions in the Colorado Rockies. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather in North Carolina and Virginia during the afternoon and evening. Thunderstorms produced golf ball size hail, and spawned a tornado near Chester VA which caused half a million dollars damage. A storm system produced snow and gale force winds across northern Michigan, with 8.3 inches of snow reported at Marquette. Temperatures in the north central U.S. soared from morning lows in the 20s and 30s to afternoon highs in the 60s and 70s. Eight cities reported record highs for the date, including Havre MT with a reading of 77 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2005 - Heavy rainfall in the Northeast produced flooding in parts of New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. Severe flooding along the Delaware River forced the evacuation of 6,000 residents in New Jersey and over 5,700 in Pennsylvania during the weekend of the 2nd-3rd. Around 3,200 homes in New Jersey were damaged, while one fatality was reported in New York (Associated Press).

2006 - Tornadoes and hail as big as softballs ripped through eight Midwestern states, killing at least 27 people, injuring scores and destroying hundreds of homes. In Tennessee, tornadoes killed 23 people, including an infant and a family of four. Severe thunderstorms, many producing tornadoes, also struck parts of Iowa, Kentucky, Arkansas, Missouri, Ohio, Illinois and Indiana. Strong wind was blamed or at least three deaths in Missouri. The weather service's Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Okla., said it had preliminary reports of 63 tornadoes. The worst damage occurred throughout the Tennessee Valley.

2015 - Late night severe storms produced 80 to 100 mph straight-line winds that caused extensive damage from Hutchinson to Newton and Wichita. An 89 mph wind gust was reported at the Kansas Aviation Museum located in southeast Wichita. (NWS, Wichita, KS)

Tony please check these:

 

Lows:

EWR: 28 (2021)
NYC: 22 (2019)
LGA: 29 (2021)
JFK: 27 (1964)

 

Are you sure about the 22 in NYC on this date in 2019? I don't remember anything that extreme and I think EWR and the other airports would have record lows in 2019 on this date too if the NYC number was correct, Tony.

 

[Feen]

anyway we could squeeze some snow next week out of that departing low? Experts?

[LongBeachSurfFreak]

51 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC  

 

April 2, 2018:  5.5 inches of snow

The crazy part of that event, the snow accumulated more efficiently then during some of those big storms in March. (In the city) Shows that it can still happen this time of year with very cold 850s and rates.

Could be a big severe day in the mid west today.

[snowman19]

18 minutes ago, Feen said:

anyway we could squeeze some snow next week out of that departing low? Experts?

Try again in December. Game over been over

[LibertyBell]

9 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said:

The crazy part of that event, the snow accumulated more efficiently then during some of those big storms in March. (In the city) Shows that it can still happen this time of year with very cold 850s and rates.

Could be a big severe day in the mid west today.

April snows are better here than March snows are.  I also loved April 2003, all day heavy snow! April 1996 was pretty good here too.

Could be a lot of massive destruction with that storm in the midwest and south unfortunately.  And four sucky days coming up.  We really don't need that rain anymore, we have had enough.  No drought conditions around here anymore (they never were all that serious.)

 

[Feen]

12 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Try again in December. Game over been over

okay thanks. Have a good day guys

[MJO812]

14 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Try again in December. Game over been over

Mid April is the cut-off 

[SACRUS]

38 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Tony please check these:

 

Lows:

EWR: 28 (2021)
NYC: 22 (2019) -- 1919 -- 
LGA: 29 (2021)
JFK: 27 (1964)

 

Are you sure about the 22 in NYC on this date in 2019? I don't remember anything that extreme and I think EWR and the other airports would have record lows in 2019 on this date too if the NYC number was correct, Tony.

 

Thnks it is s typo- 1919 is the corrwct 

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Mid April is the cut-off 

For your taxes right?

[gravitylover]

44 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

 We really don't need that rain anymore, we have had enough.  No drought conditions around here anymore (they never were all that serious.)

 

I guess you don't live somewhere with lots of tinder dry brush and trees... Things were bone dry up here and now with everything leafing out and greening up, if we don't sustain at least average precip for the next month or so we'll go right back to dangerously dry with high fire danger. But, you can go on thinking that way and we'll listen to you tell us how terrible it is for allergies while we are concerned with the next brush fire that might be in our neighborhoods. 

[vegan_edible]

58 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

Try again in December. Game over been over

who even wants it now... whats the goal? 2 inches of slop that melts in 72 minutes flat? seeing the trees start to bud has made me shut off any want for frozen precip. we'll get back at it in late november. for now, lets all pray for 75, sunny, low humidity and no more wind over 5mph

[Brian5671]

3 minutes ago, vegan_edible said:

who even wants it now... whats the goal? 2 inches of slop that melts in 72 minutes flat? seeing the trees start to bud has made me shut off any want for frozen precip. we'll get back at it in late november. for now, lets all pray for 75, sunny, low humidity and no more wind over 5mph

Not happening anyway-we couldn't get snow in March, we are not getting in April.   

[LibertyBell]

30 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

I guess you don't live somewhere with lots of tinder dry brush and trees... Things were bone dry up here and now with everything leafing out and greening up, if we don't sustain at least average precip for the next month or so we'll go right back to dangerously dry with high fire danger. But, you can go on thinking that way and we'll listen to you tell us how terrible it is for allergies while we are concerned with the next brush fire that might be in our neighborhoods. 

The last drought map I looked at didn't have any drought conditions here and it was only borderline weak  drought to our south.

I'm not sure how much rain you need, but we have had above normal rainfall for 2+ months now.

Average rainfall is just fine, I just don't like 4 days of sogginess one right after the other.  We can get average rainfall with 1 inch of rain one day per week every week.

 

[MJO812]

59 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

For your taxes right?

Snow

[Dark Star]

43 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

I guess you don't live somewhere with lots of tinder dry brush and trees... Things were bone dry up here and now with everything leafing out and greening up, if we don't sustain at least average precip for the next month or so we'll go right back to dangerously dry with high fire danger. But, you can go on thinking that way and we'll listen to you tell us how terrible it is for allergies while we are concerned with the next brush fire that might be in our neighborhoods. 

You are both correct.

[steve392]

50 minutes ago, gravitylover said:

I guess you don't live somewhere with lots of tinder dry brush and trees... Things were bone dry up here and now with everything leafing out and greening up, if we don't sustain at least average precip for the next month or so we'll go right back to dangerously dry with high fire danger. But, you can go on thinking that way and we'll listen to you tell us how terrible it is for allergies while we are concerned with the next brush fire that might be in our neighborhoods. 

I've had fire danger watches come up ever dry day last week.  Our reservoirs aren't full yet, especially in wester nj.

[LibertyBell]

7 minutes ago, steve392 said:

I've had fire danger watches come up ever dry day last week.  Our reservoirs aren't full yet, especially in wester nj.

I think that has to do with the wind.  Reservoirs have been reported as being around 90%

What do you find more damaging a short term drought (that's coming to an end now) or a big flood?

I say flood, we've seen the horrible destruction flooding has done to NJ over the past few years.

 

[LibertyBell]

at 2 pm the clouds are finally here.  No more sun until Monday? =\