Spring 2025 Banter Thread

[A-L-E-K]

10 minutes ago, Malacka11 said:

Am I just reading things or is this upcoming system like one more missed phase-type throwback to this winter? As in the way the last few systems were amped and all that and now this southern one is a clunker™ again

too real

[roardog]

26 minutes ago, Malacka11 said:

Am I just reading things or is this upcoming system like one more missed phase-type throwback to this winter? As in the way the last few systems were amped and all that and now this southern one is a clunker™ again

This winter? Where have you been the last decade? lol

[cyclone77]

Pretty terrible winter for most of the sub as the map below shows.  Definitely an F- for here.  Heaviest single event will go down as 3" lol.  Now that we've hit rock bottom it can only get better right?

 

[IWXwx]

2024-'25 The winter of the mid-south.

[WestMichigan]

2 hours ago, IWXwx said:

2024-'25 The winter of the mid-south.

And Sault Ste Marie

[michsnowfreak]

14 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

Pretty terrible winter for most of the sub as the map below shows.  Definitely an F- for here.  Heaviest single event will go down as 3" lol.  Now that we've hit rock bottom it can only get better right?

 

This map wouldve been better IMO if they had % of avg snowfall instead of just a simple departure, because average snowfall over this huge of a region is all over the place.

Also, just to point out, with the colder than avg temp departures of this winter in many places, we heard some point out that the latest 30-year averages are warmer than long term. Well, for many areas in the northern half of this map, especially around the Great Lakes, the latest 30-year snow averages are higher than longterm avg (and I believe they are lower than longterm in some of the southern reaches of the map).

[cyclone77]

26 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

This map wouldve been better IMO if they had % of avg snowfall instead of just a simple departure, because average snowfall over this huge of a region is all over the place.

Also, just to point out, with the colder than avg temp departures of this winter in many places, we heard some point out that the latest 30-year averages are warmer than long term. Well, for many areas in the northern half of this map, especially around the Great Lakes, the latest 30-year snow averages are higher than longterm avg (and I believe they are lower than longterm in some of the southern reaches of the map).

Yeah it would be nice if they had that as well.

[Danny8]

Unfortunately doesn’t detail specific locations but gives that idea 

[A-L-E-K]

big snows 2 big rains

once you lock in on the qpf train in the modern era it can really add up

[TheClimateChanger]

15 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

Pretty terrible winter for most of the sub as the map below shows.  Definitely an F- for here.  Heaviest single event will go down as 3" lol.  Now that we've hit rock bottom it can only get better right?

 

Oh, that's brilliant. I didn't know they had these maps. I downloaded the data in a .csv format.

City Name	State	Seasonal Snowfall Departure
CASPER/NATRONA INTL	WY	-41.3
WORCESTER (AMOS)	MA	-37.6
FLAGSTAFF (AMOS)	AZ	-33.7
MANSFIELD	OH	-32.6
SALT LAKE CITY INTL	UT	-31.2
CONCORD MUNICIPAL	NH	-29.4
HARTFORD/BRADLEY	CT	-29.1
DULUTH	MN	-28.3
MADISON	WI	-27.4
CLEVELAND	OH	-27.2
Moline	IL	-27.0
ROCHESTER	MN	-26.2
ANCHORAGE AK	AK	-25.9
SOUTH BEND	IN	-25.6
SIOUX FALLS	SD	-24.6
DUBUQUE	IA	-23.5
TOLEDO	OH	-23.4
BISMARCK	ND	-23.2
Gray NWS	ME	-22.6
YOUNGSTOWN	OH	-21.9
MASON CITY	IA	-21.5
LA CROSSE	WI	-21.3
GRAND_FORKS	ND	-21.1
DES MOINES	IA	-21.0
ELKO	NV	-20.6
PROVIDENCE/GREEN	RI	-20.5
Waterloo	IA	-20.5
Minneapolis NWS	MN	-20.1
FARGO	ND	-20.0
BOSTON/LOGAN INTL	MA	-19.9
WILLIAMSPORT	PA	-19.9
CHICAGO O HARE	IL	-19.8
ISLIP/MACARTHUR	NY	-19.7
ROCKFORD	IL	-19.3
CONCORDIA	KS	-19.0
MINNEAPOLIS	MN	-18.9
HURON	SD	-18.4
EAU CLAIRE	WI	-18.2
FORT WAYNE	IN	-18.2
NEWARK INTL AIRPORT	NJ	-17.6
PIERRE	SD	-17.5
CHEYENNE/WARREN AFB	WY	-17.2
DETROIT/WAYNE	MI	-16.9
ABERDEEN	SD	-16.8
MILWAUKEE	WI	-16.8
GLASGOW INTL ARPT	MT	-16.7
MOBRIDGE	SD	-16.7
NEW YORK CITY	NY	-16.6
BUFFALO INTL ARPT	NY	-16.2
Rapid City	SD	-16.1
WILKES-BARRE/SCRANT	PA	-15.6
SIOUX CITY	IA	-15.5
SPOKANE INTL ARPT	WA	-15.5
ALLENTOWN-BETHLEHEM	PA	-15.0
ROMEOVILLE/CHI	IL	-14.9
Bridgeport/Sikorsky	CT	-14.9
BANGOR INTL ARPT	ME	-14.9
ALBANY COUNTY ARPT	NY	-14.8
PHILADELPHIA INTL	PA	-14.8
Grand Forks NWS	ND	-14.7
SAGINAW	MI	-14.7
PEORIA	IL	-14.4
NEW YORK/LA GUARDIA	NY	-14.1
GRAND JUNCTION	CO	-14.1
HARRISBURG PA	PA	-14.0
Blacksburg	VA	-13.6
NEW YORK/JF KENNEDY	NY	-13.5
PORTLAND INTL JET	ME	-13.4
NORTH PLATTE	NE	-13.3
ELY/YELLAND FLD	NV	-13.1
COLUMBUS	OH	-13.0
SYRACUSE/HANCOCK	NY	-13.0
ROCHESTER/MONROE CO	NY	-12.9
LINCOLN	NE	-12.6
GRAND RAPIDS	MI	-12.3
ST. CLOUD	MN	-12.3
SCOTTSBLUFF	NE	-12.2
TRENTON/MERCER CO.	NJ	-12.0
CARIBOU MUNICIPAL	ME	-11.8
INTERNTNL FALLS	MN	-11.6
RENO/CANNON INTL	NV	-11.3
LANSING	MI	-11.1
Akron / Canton	OH	-10.9
FLINT	MI	-10.9
SISSETON	SD	-10.9
Omaha - Valley	NE	-10.7
WILMINGTON AIRPORT	DE	-10.1
MUSKEGON	MI	-9.6
PITTSBURGH INTL	PA	-9.6
Marquette	MI	-9.5
RHINELANDER	WI	-9.2
WINNEMUCCA MUNI	NV	-9.1
BURLINGTON INTL	VT	-8.8
GREAT FALLS INTL	MT	-8.7
LANDER/HUNT FIELD	WY	-8.7
OMAHA/EPPLEY	NE	-8.7
GREEN BAY	WI	-8.6
ASHEVILLE_MUNICIPAL_(ASOS)	NC	-8.3
WATERTOWN	SD	-7.0
NORFOLK	NE	-7.0
BALTIMORE/WASH INTL	MD	-6.6
SPRINGFIELD	IL	-6.5
ROANOKE MUNICIPAL	VA	-6.3
HAVRE (AMOS)	MT	-6.1
ALBUQUERQUE INTL	NM	-6.0
LUBBOCK INTL ARPT	TX	-5.9
BECKLEY MEMORIAL	WV	-5.4
WASHINGTON/DULLES	VA	-5.4
Lincoln NWS	IL	-5.1
ROSWELL/INDUSTRIAL	NM	-5.0
GRAND ISLAND	NE	-5.0
INDIANAPOLIS	IN	-4.9
WAUSAU	WI	-4.8
BOISE MUNICIPAL	ID	-3.9
BINGHAMTON/BROOME	NY	-3.7
ATLANTIC CITY INTL	NJ	-3.3
HASTINGS	NE	-3.3
PENDLETON MUNICIPAL	OR	-3.0
GREENVILLE/SPARTANB	SC	-2.8
DAYTON	OH	-2.7
ABILENE MUNICIPAL	TX	-2.5
OKLAHOMA CITY(AWOS)	OK	-2.3
CHARLOTTE/DOUGLAS_(ASOS)	NC	-2.3
GREENSBORO/PIEDMONT_(ASOS)	NC	-2.2
ELKINS/RANDOLPH FLD	WV	-1.3
CHARLESTON/KANAWHA	WV	-1.3
BRISTOL/TRI-CITY	TN	-1.2
DANVILLE REGIONAL	VA	-1.2
WICHITA FALLS/SHEP	TX	-1.1
LEWISTON (AMOS)	ID	-1.1
JACKSON/THOMPSON	MS	-1.0
AMARILLO ARPT(AWOS)	TX	-0.9
DESERT ROCK-MERCURY NV	NV	-0.9
Waco	TX	-0.6
MERIDIAN/KEY FIELD	MS	-0.6
VALENTINE	NE	-0.5
RALEIGH-DURHAM_(ASOS)	NC	-0.4
LAS VEGAS/MCCARRAN	NV	-0.2
CORPUS CHRISTI	TX	-0.2
COLUMBIA METRO	SC	-0.2
BAKERSFIELD/MEADOWS	CA	-0.1
FRESNO AIR TERMINAL	CA	0.0
EUREKA	CA	0.0
ALPENA	MI	0.3
ALAMOSA MUNI(AWOS)	CO	0.5
CHATTANOOGA/LOVELL	TN	0.5
DODGE CITY KS	KS	0.5
BIRMINGHAM MUNI	AL	0.6
PADUCAH/BARKLEY	KY	0.6
LYNCHBURG/P. GLENN	VA	0.9
BLUEFIELD/MERCER CO	WV	0.9
DALLAS/FT WORTH	TX	1.0
BOWLING GREEN	KY	1.0
SAVANNAH MUNICIPAL	GA	1.1
WASHINGTON/NATIONAL	VA	1.2
HELENA REGIONAL	MT	1.2
TUPELO/C.D. LEMONS	MS	1.4
WILMINGTON/NEW_HAN_(ASOS)	NC	1.7
AUGUSTA/BUSH FIELD	GA	1.9
ST. LOUIS	MO	2.1
COLUMBIA	MO	2.2
CHARLESTOWN MUNI	SC	2.2
KNOXVILLE MUNICIPAL	TN	2.9
RICHMOND/BYRD FIELD	VA	2.9
KANSAS CITY/INTL	MO	4.0
GOODLAND	KS	5.1
Fairbanks	AK	5.1
Memphis	TN	5.3
WICHITA	KS	5.6
MEDFORD/JACKSON CO.	OR	5.7
JACKSON/J. CARROLL	KY	5.7
HUNTINGTON/TRI STAT	WV	6.1
CINCINNATI/COVINGTO	KY	6.3
MEMPHIS INTL ARPT	TN	6.4
PUEBLO MEMORIAL(AW)	CO	6.4
LITTLE ROCK/ADAMS	AR	6.4
MOBILE/BATES FIELD	AL	7.3
NORTH LITTLE ROCK	AR	7.6
BILLINGS/LOGAN INTL	MT	7.7
EVANSVILLE	IN	8.2
LEXINGTON/BLUEGRASS	KY	8.9
LOUISVILLE/STANDIFO	KY	9.4
ERIE INTL AIRPORT	PA	9.4
NORFOLK INTL ARPT	VA	10.6
WALLOPS ISLAND STN	VA	10.6
CLAYTON MUNI(AMOS)	NM	10.9
TOPEKA (TOP)	KS	12.1
SALISBURY REGIONAL	MD	13.5
COLORADO SPRINGS	CO	18.6
HOUGHTON LAKE	MI	18.6
SAULT STE MARIE	MI	85.4

[michsnowfreak]

24 minutes ago, Danny8 said:

Unfortunately doesn’t detail specific locations but gives that idea 

Yeah thats more accurate! If no more measurable snow falls, Detroit will finish with 60% of avg snowfall (using 1991-2020 averages....if using longterm avg, it would be 66% of avg). There is a threat of snow this coming week however.

With such widespread snowfall deficits (similar to last decade when we would see widespread snowfall surpluses), you know its going to change soon. Hopefully with an improving Pacific it will be a stormier winter in '25-26.

[TheClimateChanger]

28 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Oh, that's brilliant. I didn't know they had these maps. I downloaded the data in a .csv format.

City Name	State	Seasonal Snowfall Departure
CASPER/NATRONA INTL	WY	-41.3
WORCESTER (AMOS)	MA	-37.6
FLAGSTAFF (AMOS)	AZ	-33.7
MANSFIELD	OH	-32.6
SALT LAKE CITY INTL	UT	-31.2
CONCORD MUNICIPAL	NH	-29.4
HARTFORD/BRADLEY	CT	-29.1
DULUTH	MN	-28.3
MADISON	WI	-27.4
CLEVELAND	OH	-27.2
Moline	IL	-27.0
ROCHESTER	MN	-26.2
ANCHORAGE AK	AK	-25.9
SOUTH BEND	IN	-25.6
SIOUX FALLS	SD	-24.6
DUBUQUE	IA	-23.5
TOLEDO	OH	-23.4
BISMARCK	ND	-23.2
Gray NWS	ME	-22.6
YOUNGSTOWN	OH	-21.9
MASON CITY	IA	-21.5
LA CROSSE	WI	-21.3
GRAND_FORKS	ND	-21.1
DES MOINES	IA	-21.0
ELKO	NV	-20.6
PROVIDENCE/GREEN	RI	-20.5
Waterloo	IA	-20.5
Minneapolis NWS	MN	-20.1
FARGO	ND	-20.0
BOSTON/LOGAN INTL	MA	-19.9
WILLIAMSPORT	PA	-19.9
CHICAGO O HARE	IL	-19.8
ISLIP/MACARTHUR	NY	-19.7
ROCKFORD	IL	-19.3
CONCORDIA	KS	-19.0
MINNEAPOLIS	MN	-18.9
HURON	SD	-18.4
EAU CLAIRE	WI	-18.2
FORT WAYNE	IN	-18.2
NEWARK INTL AIRPORT	NJ	-17.6
PIERRE	SD	-17.5
CHEYENNE/WARREN AFB	WY	-17.2
DETROIT/WAYNE	MI	-16.9
ABERDEEN	SD	-16.8
MILWAUKEE	WI	-16.8
GLASGOW INTL ARPT	MT	-16.7
MOBRIDGE	SD	-16.7
NEW YORK CITY	NY	-16.6
BUFFALO INTL ARPT	NY	-16.2
Rapid City	SD	-16.1
WILKES-BARRE/SCRANT	PA	-15.6
SIOUX CITY	IA	-15.5
SPOKANE INTL ARPT	WA	-15.5
ALLENTOWN-BETHLEHEM	PA	-15.0
ROMEOVILLE/CHI	IL	-14.9
Bridgeport/Sikorsky	CT	-14.9
BANGOR INTL ARPT	ME	-14.9
ALBANY COUNTY ARPT	NY	-14.8
PHILADELPHIA INTL	PA	-14.8
Grand Forks NWS	ND	-14.7
SAGINAW	MI	-14.7
PEORIA	IL	-14.4
NEW YORK/LA GUARDIA	NY	-14.1
GRAND JUNCTION	CO	-14.1
HARRISBURG PA	PA	-14.0
Blacksburg	VA	-13.6
NEW YORK/JF KENNEDY	NY	-13.5
PORTLAND INTL JET	ME	-13.4
NORTH PLATTE	NE	-13.3
ELY/YELLAND FLD	NV	-13.1
COLUMBUS	OH	-13.0
SYRACUSE/HANCOCK	NY	-13.0
ROCHESTER/MONROE CO	NY	-12.9
LINCOLN	NE	-12.6
GRAND RAPIDS	MI	-12.3
ST. CLOUD	MN	-12.3
SCOTTSBLUFF	NE	-12.2
TRENTON/MERCER CO.	NJ	-12.0
CARIBOU MUNICIPAL	ME	-11.8
INTERNTNL FALLS	MN	-11.6
RENO/CANNON INTL	NV	-11.3
LANSING	MI	-11.1
Akron / Canton	OH	-10.9
FLINT	MI	-10.9
SISSETON	SD	-10.9
Omaha - Valley	NE	-10.7
WILMINGTON AIRPORT	DE	-10.1
MUSKEGON	MI	-9.6
PITTSBURGH INTL	PA	-9.6
Marquette	MI	-9.5
RHINELANDER	WI	-9.2
WINNEMUCCA MUNI	NV	-9.1
BURLINGTON INTL	VT	-8.8
GREAT FALLS INTL	MT	-8.7
LANDER/HUNT FIELD	WY	-8.7
OMAHA/EPPLEY	NE	-8.7
GREEN BAY	WI	-8.6
ASHEVILLE_MUNICIPAL_(ASOS)	NC	-8.3
WATERTOWN	SD	-7.0
NORFOLK	NE	-7.0
BALTIMORE/WASH INTL	MD	-6.6
SPRINGFIELD	IL	-6.5
ROANOKE MUNICIPAL	VA	-6.3
HAVRE (AMOS)	MT	-6.1
ALBUQUERQUE INTL	NM	-6.0
LUBBOCK INTL ARPT	TX	-5.9
BECKLEY MEMORIAL	WV	-5.4
WASHINGTON/DULLES	VA	-5.4
Lincoln NWS	IL	-5.1
ROSWELL/INDUSTRIAL	NM	-5.0
GRAND ISLAND	NE	-5.0
INDIANAPOLIS	IN	-4.9
WAUSAU	WI	-4.8
BOISE MUNICIPAL	ID	-3.9
BINGHAMTON/BROOME	NY	-3.7
ATLANTIC CITY INTL	NJ	-3.3
HASTINGS	NE	-3.3
PENDLETON MUNICIPAL	OR	-3.0
GREENVILLE/SPARTANB	SC	-2.8
DAYTON	OH	-2.7
ABILENE MUNICIPAL	TX	-2.5
OKLAHOMA CITY(AWOS)	OK	-2.3
CHARLOTTE/DOUGLAS_(ASOS)	NC	-2.3
GREENSBORO/PIEDMONT_(ASOS)	NC	-2.2
ELKINS/RANDOLPH FLD	WV	-1.3
CHARLESTON/KANAWHA	WV	-1.3
BRISTOL/TRI-CITY	TN	-1.2
DANVILLE REGIONAL	VA	-1.2
WICHITA FALLS/SHEP	TX	-1.1
LEWISTON (AMOS)	ID	-1.1
JACKSON/THOMPSON	MS	-1.0
AMARILLO ARPT(AWOS)	TX	-0.9
DESERT ROCK-MERCURY NV	NV	-0.9
Waco	TX	-0.6
MERIDIAN/KEY FIELD	MS	-0.6
VALENTINE	NE	-0.5
RALEIGH-DURHAM_(ASOS)	NC	-0.4
LAS VEGAS/MCCARRAN	NV	-0.2
CORPUS CHRISTI	TX	-0.2
COLUMBIA METRO	SC	-0.2
BAKERSFIELD/MEADOWS	CA	-0.1
FRESNO AIR TERMINAL	CA	0.0
EUREKA	CA	0.0
ALPENA	MI	0.3
ALAMOSA MUNI(AWOS)	CO	0.5
CHATTANOOGA/LOVELL	TN	0.5
DODGE CITY KS	KS	0.5
BIRMINGHAM MUNI	AL	0.6
PADUCAH/BARKLEY	KY	0.6
LYNCHBURG/P. GLENN	VA	0.9
BLUEFIELD/MERCER CO	WV	0.9
DALLAS/FT WORTH	TX	1.0
BOWLING GREEN	KY	1.0
SAVANNAH MUNICIPAL	GA	1.1
WASHINGTON/NATIONAL	VA	1.2
HELENA REGIONAL	MT	1.2
TUPELO/C.D. LEMONS	MS	1.4
WILMINGTON/NEW_HAN_(ASOS)	NC	1.7
AUGUSTA/BUSH FIELD	GA	1.9
ST. LOUIS	MO	2.1
COLUMBIA	MO	2.2
CHARLESTOWN MUNI	SC	2.2
KNOXVILLE MUNICIPAL	TN	2.9
RICHMOND/BYRD FIELD	VA	2.9
KANSAS CITY/INTL	MO	4.0
GOODLAND	KS	5.1
Fairbanks	AK	5.1
Memphis	TN	5.3
WICHITA	KS	5.6
MEDFORD/JACKSON CO.	OR	5.7
JACKSON/J. CARROLL	KY	5.7
HUNTINGTON/TRI STAT	WV	6.1
CINCINNATI/COVINGTO	KY	6.3
MEMPHIS INTL ARPT	TN	6.4
PUEBLO MEMORIAL(AW)	CO	6.4
LITTLE ROCK/ADAMS	AR	6.4
MOBILE/BATES FIELD	AL	7.3
NORTH LITTLE ROCK	AR	7.6
BILLINGS/LOGAN INTL	MT	7.7
EVANSVILLE	IN	8.2
LEXINGTON/BLUEGRASS	KY	8.9
LOUISVILLE/STANDIFO	KY	9.4
ERIE INTL AIRPORT	PA	9.4
NORFOLK INTL ARPT	VA	10.6
WALLOPS ISLAND STN	VA	10.6
CLAYTON MUNI(AMOS)	NM	10.9
TOPEKA (TOP)	KS	12.1
SALISBURY REGIONAL	MD	13.5
COLORADO SPRINGS	CO	18.6
HOUGHTON LAKE	MI	18.6
SAULT STE MARIE	MI	85.4

Here is the same dataset sorted by percentage of normal snowfall. A few comments... most of the zeros are locations that receive little, if any, snowfall. The exception is Concordia, KS, which averages 19.0" through April 3, but has received only a trace. Eureka and Fresno, in California, are shown as 0 here, but they don't average any snowfall during the year [so it's really an undefined value]. Bakersfield, California apparently averages 0.1" per year, so that is a true 0% [although not particularly significant]. Savannah, Georgia averages 0 snowfall, but has received 1.1" this winter, so I have displayed its percentage of normal as "infinite." This would also be the case for New Orleans and a few locations in northern Florida, but they don't regularly report seasonal snowfall and therefore are not included.

Edit: The Concordia, KS result appears to be due to missing snowfall reports this winter. The Climate Report does reflect these values, but it looks like snowfall wasn't observed. Most locations in Kansas, including nearby Topeka, were slightly above the normal snowfall.

City Name	State	Percentage of Normal
CONCORDIA	KS	0.00
JACKSON/THOMPSON	MS	0.00
DESERT ROCK-MERCURY NV	NV	0.00
Waco	TX	0.00
MERIDIAN/KEY FIELD	MS	0.00
LAS VEGAS/MCCARRAN	NV	0.00
CORPUS CHRISTI	TX	0.00
BAKERSFIELD/MEADOWS	CA	0.00
FRESNO AIR TERMINAL	CA	0.00
EUREKA	CA	0.00
LUBBOCK INTL ARPT	TX	14.49
GRAND JUNCTION	CO	16.57
ASHEVILLE_MUNICIPAL_(ASOS)	NC	18.63
ALBUQUERQUE INTL	NM	22.08
Moline	IL	23.30
GREENVILLE/SPARTANB	SC	28.21
ABILENE MUNICIPAL	TX	28.57
CASPER/NATRONA INTL	WY	30.94
MANSFIELD	OH	31.66
CHARLOTTE/DOUGLAS_(ASOS)	NC	34.29
PHILADELPHIA INTL	PA	35.37
TOLEDO	OH	35.54
SALT LAKE CITY INTL	UT	36.71
ISLIP/MACARTHUR	NY	37.26
SIOUX FALLS	SD	39.71
DES MOINES	IA	40.51
MOBRIDGE	SD	40.78
DUBUQUE	IA	42.54
HARTFORD/BRADLEY	CT	42.72
PROVIDENCE/GREEN	RI	43.21
WILLIAMSPORT	PA	43.47
NEWARK INTL AIRPORT	NJ	43.59
NEW YORK CITY	NY	43.73
Blacksburg	VA	44.03
PEORIA	IL	44.19
MADISON	WI	44.65
FORT WAYNE	IN	44.85
RENO/CANNON INTL	NV	44.88
Waterloo	IA	45.48
ELKO	NV	45.79
PIERRE	SD	46.15
ROCKFORD	IL	46.98
NEW YORK/JF KENNEDY	NY	47.06
CHICAGO O HARE	IL	47.06
WORCESTER (AMOS)	MA	47.34
ROCHESTER	MN	47.39
ROSWELL/INDUSTRIAL	NM	47.92
MASON CITY	IA	48.32
LINCOLN	NE	49.40
WILMINGTON AIRPORT	DE	49.75
NORTH PLATTE	NE	49.81
BISMARCK	ND	49.89
LA CROSSE	WI	51.37
NEW YORK/LA GUARDIA	NY	52.20
HARRISBURG PA	PA	52.70
COLUMBUS	OH	53.24
GRAND_FORKS	ND	53.52
HURON	SD	53.54
ROMEOVILLE/CHI	IL	54.01
TRENTON/MERCER CO.	NJ	54.20
ALLENTOWN-BETHLEHEM	PA	54.27
SIOUX CITY	IA	54.55
Bridgeport/Sikorsky	CT	54.71
WINNEMUCCA MUNI	NV	55.17
CONCORD MUNICIPAL	NH	55.32
GLASGOW INTL ARPT	MT	55.70
CLEVELAND	OH	55.92
ABERDEEN	SD	57.03
ROANOKE MUNICIPAL	VA	57.14
FARGO	ND	58.25
BOSTON/LOGAN INTL	MA	58.54
SOUTH BEND	IN	59.81
Minneapolis NWS	MN	59.88
FLAGSTAFF (AMOS)	AZ	60.26
MINNEAPOLIS	MN	60.87
DETROIT/WAYNE	MI	61.42
Rapid City	SD	62.21
MILWAUKEE	WI	64.26
WICHITA FALLS/SHEP	TX	64.52
EAU CLAIRE	WI	64.59
Omaha - Valley	NE	64.92
WILKES-BARRE/SCRANT	PA	64.94
ANCHORAGE AK	AK	65.09
SISSETON	SD	65.18
CHEYENNE/WARREN AFB	WY	65.18
DULUTH	MN	65.28
SPOKANE INTL ARPT	WA	65.40
OKLAHOMA CITY(AWOS)	OK	65.67
BALTIMORE/WASH INTL	MD	65.80
YOUNGSTOWN	OH	66.67
OMAHA/EPPLEY	NE	66.67
SCOTTSBLUFF	NE	67.12
Grand Forks NWS	ND	68.11
SAGINAW	MI	68.72
GREENSBORO/PIEDMONT_(ASOS)	NC	69.01
SPRINGFIELD	IL	69.91
Gray NWS	ME	71.82
ST. CLOUD	MN	71.85
ELY/YELLAND FLD	NV	72.48
Lincoln NWS	IL	73.58
WASHINGTON/DULLES	VA	74.16
ALBANY COUNTY ARPT	NY	74.39
NORFOLK	NE	75.00
Akron / Canton	OH	76.20
LANSING	MI	77.25
BOISE MUNICIPAL	ID	77.71
PITTSBURGH INTL	PA	77.88
FLINT	MI	78.24
BANGOR INTL ARPT	ME	79.22
PORTLAND INTL JET	ME	79.85
INDIANAPOLIS	IN	80.71
WATERTOWN	SD	80.77
ATLANTIC CITY INTL	NJ	80.81
PENDLETON MUNICIPAL	OR	80.89
GRAND ISLAND	NE	81.06
INTERNTNL FALLS	MN	82.58
BUFFALO INTL ARPT	NY	82.66
GREEN BAY	WI	83.33
COLUMBIA METRO	SC	83.33
GRAND RAPIDS	MI	83.82
HAVRE (AMOS)	MT	84.11
DANVILLE REGIONAL	VA	84.21
GREAT FALLS INTL	MT	84.35
BRISTOL/TRI-CITY	TN	86.81
RHINELANDER	WI	86.99
ROCHESTER/MONROE CO	NY	87.04
LANDER/HUNT FIELD	WY	87.26
HASTINGS	NE	87.87
MUSKEGON	MI	88.81
DAYTON	OH	89.07
CARIBOU MUNICIPAL	ME	89.33
BURLINGTON INTL	VT	89.54
SYRACUSE/HANCOCK	NY	89.62
BECKLEY MEMORIAL	WV	90.13
LEWISTON (AMOS)	ID	91.34
WAUSAU	WI	91.79
RALEIGH-DURHAM_(ASOS)	NC	92.31
AMARILLO ARPT(AWOS)	TX	94.58
Marquette	MI	94.73
BINGHAMTON/BROOME	NY	95.56
CHARLESTON/KANAWHA	WV	95.82
ELKINS/RANDOLPH FLD	WV	98.06
VALENTINE	NE	98.29
ALPENA	MI	100.42
ALAMOSA MUNI(AWOS)	CO	102.08
BLUEFIELD/MERCER CO	WV	102.65
DODGE CITY KS	KS	102.70
HELENA REGIONAL	MT	103.47
PADUCAH/BARKLEY	KY	106.74
LYNCHBURG/P. GLENN	VA	107.83
Fairbanks	AK	108.35
WASHINGTON/NATIONAL	VA	108.76
ERIE INTL AIRPORT	PA	109.19
BOWLING GREEN	KY	111.90
ST. LOUIS	MO	112.73
COLUMBIA	MO	113.41
CHATTANOOGA/LOVELL	TN	113.89
BILLINGS/LOGAN INTL	MT	115.40
GOODLAND	KS	118.89
KANSAS CITY/INTL	MO	122.22
JACKSON/J. CARROLL	KY	124.68
PUEBLO MEMORIAL(AW)	CO	125.30
CINCINNATI/COVINGTO	KY	127.39
HOUGHTON LAKE	MI	129.95
HUNTINGTON/TRI STAT	WV	131.12
RICHMOND/BYRD FIELD	VA	132.95
BIRMINGHAM MUNI	AL	142.86
WICHITA	KS	144.44
CLAYTON MUNI(AMOS)	NM	152.66
LEXINGTON/BLUEGRASS	KY	161.81
DALLAS/FT WORTH	TX	162.50
KNOXVILLE MUNICIPAL	TN	163.04
COLORADO SPRINGS	CO	168.89
LOUISVILLE/STANDIFO	KY	170.68
TOPEKA (TOP)	KS	171.18
SAULT STE MARIE	MI	175.38
EVANSVILLE	IN	175.93
TUPELO/C.D. LEMONS	MS	193.33
WALLOPS ISLAND STN	VA	229.27
MEDFORD/JACKSON CO.	OR	267.65
LITTLE ROCK/ADAMS	AR	268.42
NORFOLK INTL ARPT	VA	270.97
SALISBURY REGIONAL	MD	273.08
WILMINGTON/NEW_HAN_(ASOS)	NC	288.89
Memphis	TN	289.29
NORTH LITTLE ROCK	AR	300.00
MEMPHIS INTL ARPT	TN	337.04
AUGUSTA/BUSH FIELD	GA	337.50
CHARLESTOWN MUNI	SC	833.33
MOBILE/BATES FIELD	AL	3750.00
SAVANNAH MUNICIPAL	GA	Infinite

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[Powerball]

On 4/4/2025 at 2:59 AM, IWXwx said:

2024-'25 The winter of the mid-south.

And Deep South for that matter.

The most El-Nino-esque La Nina winter we've had in a while...

[michsnowfreak]

10 minutes ago, Powerball said:

And Deep South for that matter.

The most El-Nino-esque La Nina winter we've had in a while...

Some aspects were el nino-esque, but not all. There was more sustained winter than youd expect up here in a nino (although some weak ninos are very wintry).

Weve heard multiple times in previous years, and imo it was true in 2019-20 & 2022-23, that the total snowfall was misleading for the winter, making it look better than it was. Well, I have to say that 2024-25 was the first winter since 2014-15 where the winter was actually better than the snowfall number would indicate.  

[Stevo6899]

Can we fast forward to saturday?

[nvck]

not sure how many of you know about the ICECHIP hail research project this summer - a hail study led by CMU & NIU, with like 20 other orgs involved. I'll be going out to the front range/central plains for like 6 weeks this summer working on it. There's this website: http://icechip.niu.edu if you want to learn more, or feel free to ask me any questions, super excited about it

[roardog]

14 minutes ago, nvck said:

not sure how many of you know about the ICECHIP hail research project this summer - a hail study led by CMU & NIU, with like 20 other orgs involved. I'll be going out to the front range/central plains for like 6 weeks this summer working on it. There's this website: http://icechip.niu.edu if you want to learn more, or feel free to ask me any questions, super excited about it

What weeks do you get to go out there?

[nvck]

15 minutes ago, roardog said:

What weeks do you get to go out there?

may 15- the end of june. If the weather's looking dead then we might leave a week or so early, but the scheduled end date is june 28 i believe

[cyclone77]

Can't believe it's already been a year since the total eclipse.  

[CheeselandSkies]

18 degrees this morning and still saw my first robin of spring.

[WestMichigan]

Some very light snow flakes falling this morning.  Not accumulating but a couple of months ago this would have been mood flakes.  Now it is just a nuisance given the time of year and prior warmth.

[cyclone77]

21 hours ago, nvck said:

may 15- the end of june. If the weather's looking dead then we might leave a week or so early, but the scheduled end date is june 28 i believe

Man that sounds like a blast.  If I was retired I'd be down for something like that.  Maybe in 10yrs lol.

[nvck]

3 hours ago, cyclone77 said:

Man that sounds like a blast.  If I was retired I'd be down for something like that.  Maybe in 10yrs lol.

Yeah I'm super excited! was a fairly competitive selection process here, so i'm glad i got in, and it'll be cool to do legit fieldwork