jbenedet Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago What’s pretty remarkable is we had the arctic open right in our backyards from Jan through most of February but still had near normal temps for the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 20 minutes ago, jbenedet said: What’s pretty remarkable is we had the arctic open right in our backyards from Jan through most of February but still had near normal temps for the balance. It wasn't a perfect pattern for the delivery of cold to the NE...it still loaded through the center of the country. Its not as bad as loading west, but our coldest patterns have it enter through SE Canada with minimal moderation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago D The February retention saved it from an F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago On 3/9/2025 at 3:42 PM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: I would much rather 11-12. Memorable event and a warm winter with an early spring. This winter blew. Cool and windy with nothing to show for. All penny events mostly overnight and Every big h5 KU pattern animated by Brooklyn failed. Not 2011, but I would take last year with the 19" on 1/7....even 2019-2020 with the big Dec event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago I'm thinking C+. Decent temps and retention but I'm outside of the big totals that PF and others along the spine have seen. If it hadn't been for that pre-New Years melt out that set snowmobile season back, this winter would have rated higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 4 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: It wasn't a perfect pattern for the delivery of cold to the NE...it still loaded through the center of the country. Its not as bad as loading west, but our coldest patterns have it enter through SE Canada with minimal moderation. Disagree. We saw both - arctic direct to the central US, but also SE Canada. SE Canada was very cold throughout. Completely different than last few years. We saw numerous clippers out of Ontario with arctic behind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 26 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Disagree. We saw both - arctic direct to the central US, but also SE Canada. SE Canada was very cold throughout. Completely different than last few years. We saw numerous clippers out of Ontario with arctic behind... Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: Exactly The interesting thing is that from an H5 standpoint this flags very cold and very dry. The real mystery is why it wasn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 7 minutes ago, jbenedet said: The interesting thing is that from an H5 standpoint this flags very cold and very dry. The real mystery is why it wasn't... https://climate.copernicus.eu/copernicus-global-sea-ice-cover-record-low-and-third-warmest-february-globally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: https://climate.copernicus.eu/copernicus-global-sea-ice-cover-record-low-and-third-warmest-february-globally We had an arctic outbreak that was much colder than anything we saw this past season just two years ago, so its not simply an issue of CC.....we also so immense cold a bit earlier this decade, but it loaded into the center of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 49 minutes ago, jbenedet said: The interesting thing is that from an H5 standpoint this flags very cold and very dry. The real mystery is why it wasn't... Perhaps it wasn't as ideal for delivery of arctic air into the NE as you think....I know for a fact that the February arctic shot loaded west of us, but perhaps you are right about earlier in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, jbenedet said: The interesting thing is that from an H5 standpoint this flags very cold and very dry. The real mystery is why it wasn't... Because most of the time delivery was on westerly winds which is not ideal. A more ideal delivery is from the NW like 2015 had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago C- grade. 5.9" biggest total, but at least the pack hung around and made it feel wintry. A couple of awful stiff jobs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Not 2011, but I would take last year with the 19" on 1/7....even 2019-2020 with the big Dec event. Did you get screwed in December '20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: C- grade. 5.9" biggest total, but at least the pack hung around and made it feel wintry. A couple of awful stiff jobs though. oh boy, I can't wait to see the DIT or 40/70 edits on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 5 minutes ago, SJonesWX said: oh boy, I can't wait to see the DIT or 40/70 edits on this one. I welcome the edits 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 18 minutes ago, H2Otown_WX said: Did you get screwed in December '20? It was a decent storm, but in a relative sense, yes....I had 11". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 24 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: C- grade for me in bed. 5.9" isn't the largest one, but at least the longer dongs hung around and made me feel horny. A couple of awful hand jobs though. Better than nothing? But who knows?? Wolfie does??? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Scott, no one would hold it against you if you just rounded up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 20 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Scott, no one would hold it against you if you just rounded up I've always gone by tenths. Trust me, I was trying to break the 6" mark, but couldn't do it. That was the one event that actually overachieved a tad. From rain to pounding snow in like 60 seconds. I hope next winter breaks this bullshit. It's killing me and sucking the life out of the hobby. 7 long fucking months until we can entertain anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago The one thing that prevented more in the way of extremely cold Arctic temperatures was...the lack of extreme cold within the Arctic region. Hell, look at the central states during February...that was pretty low standard to the typical true Arctic airmasses they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 4 Seasons Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago D. 18.7" I think it's hard to give any winter with <50% average snowfall anything higher than that. December was awful, most events under performed and we got zero warning events. Highest here was like 4.3". On the positive side it was very active with a lot of nickel and dime events, more like pennies. And there was a few week period with prolonged snowpack. Past 10 23-24: D- 22-23: F 21-22: D+ 20-21: B+ 19-20: F 18-19: D+ 17-18: B+ 16-17: B+ 15-16: C+ 14-15: A- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I've always gone by tenths. Trust me, I was trying to break the 6" mark, but couldn't do it. That was the one event that actually overachieved a tad. From rain to pounding snow in like 60 seconds. I hope next winter breaks this bullshit. It's killing me and sucking the life out of the hobby. 7 long fucking months until we can entertain anything. I wasn't talking about snow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: I wasn't talking about snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 8 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: The one thing that prevented more in the way of extremely cold Arctic temperatures was...the lack of extreme cold within the Arctic region. Hell, look at the central states during February...that was pretty low standard to the typical true Arctic airmasses they get. I don't think that is just a CC issue...I mean, the longter term, multidecadal trend certainly is, but we have had colder outbreaks in more recent history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 18 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I've always gone by tenths. Trust me, I was trying to break the 6" mark, but couldn't do it. That was the one event that actually overachieved a tad. From rain to pounding snow in like 60 seconds. I hope next winter breaks this bullshit. It's killing me and sucking the life out of the hobby. 7 long fucking months until we can entertain anything. With all the grief @moneypitmike has received over the years about never hitting 90° but having abundant 89.5°+ temps, I'm saying you had 6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 12 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I don't think that is just a CC issue...I mean, the longter term, multidecadal trend certainly is, but we have had colder outbreaks in more recent history. Agreed with that 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 27 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I've always gone by tenths. Trust me, I was trying to break the 6" mark, but couldn't do it. That was the one event that actually overachieved a tad. From rain to pounding snow in like 60 seconds. I hope next winter breaks this bullshit. It's killing me and sucking the life out of the hobby. 7 long fucking months until we can entertain anything. 7? I think you meant 9 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 15 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I don't think that is just a CC issue...I mean, the longter term, multidecadal trend certainly is, but we have had colder outbreaks in more recent history. But I also think this goes to show how important the Fall can be, particularly late Fall in "setting the stage". Obviously things can drastically change mid-season (winter) but that is usually the product of something of high magnitude (major SSW, PV split, constant Rossby wave breaking, etc.). This winter should be a great case study. I mean we already have a general idea of why it didn't produce but after the fact...the signs were most likely there all along that these "good looks" weren't going to produce. But this is how we better ourselves and increase forecasting capabilities...look at what went wrong, identifying those flags and then comparing to the data set and differentiating between good years versus no good years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago C+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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