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these rains will not help the drought. Its wam bam thank you mam type of rain event. consisting of a 5-10 minute moderate to heavy  rain squall and then 8-12 hours of drizzle and  light showers. No more than an inch if we are lucky. This rain event will only help keep the spring bulbs flowering  and take some of the yellow out of the lawns.  We really need moderate all day rains with these cloudy shitty days we are having. We have so many of these type of cloudy days with no precip in the past 6-8 months, I stopped counting. Todays blown  forecasted temps also do not get the spirits up too. The models keep puking 1 in snows for the end of the month and next Friday will be only in the low 40's for highs.  It will only rain one day after Sunday--- next Thursday before the cold front which come through dry.  The drought lives on.  I see more brush fires and red flag warnings by the end of the week too if we get less than a half of inch of rain tomorrow.   I did see one budding maple tree today whoopee. 

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9 hours ago, Albedoman said:

these rains will not help the drought. Its wam bam thank you mam type of rain event. consisting of a 5-10 minute moderate to heavy  rain squall and then 8-12 hours of drizzle and  light showers. No more than an inch if we are lucky. This rain event will only help keep the spring bulbs flowering  and take some of the yellow out of the lawns.  We really need moderate all day rains with these cloudy shitty days we are having. We have so many of these type of cloudy days with no precip in the past 6-8 months, I stopped counting. Todays blown  forecasted temps also do not get the spirits up too. The models keep puking 1 in snows for the end of the month and next Friday will be only in the low 40's for highs.  It will only rain one day after Sunday--- next Thursday before the cold front which come through dry.  The drought lives on.  I see more brush fires and red flag warnings by the end of the week too if we get less than a half of inch of rain tomorrow.   I did see one budding maple tree today whoopee. 

From this mornings 4am discussion: hope this happens   MT Holly lets cross our fingers. This will help green the lawns bigtime and get water in the soil profile

However, cannot rule out some stronger gusts if a
low-topped convective line can actually organize. While heavy
rain is possible and rainfall rates for a brief period could
approach an inch per hour, not really expecting any flooding
concerns given how dry it has been. Rainfall amounts when all is
said and done will be around an 1-1.5" with amounts up to 2"
possible near the coast.

 

 

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2 hours ago, LVLion77 said:

The nowcast is trending negative for getting much rain in eastern PA. Hope we see some development. We desperately need a solid 1”-2” rainfall.

I feel like nowcasting is the only way to see how things pan out these days. Forecasts have been utter rubbish for (checks notes...) years now? Yeesh. No disrespect to our prof mets, but yeah. Rain all afternoon today? Nope. Ten degrees lower than forecasted yesterday. Countless model-predicted snows this winter and nothing. Something is deeply amiss in our ability to forecast weather with any kind of accuracy these days.

 

I feel like all we can do at this point is watch the radar and try to see what's going to happen in the next couple of hours. Forget being able to see anything long-term, other than painting really, really broad strokes.

That said... I am somewhat concerned with the radar at the moment:

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oh its coming  like i said earlier wam bam thank you mam. 2 inches - no way 1 inch remote possibility  likely .60 in of rain. keep the spring flowers budding and green up some grass areas. No drought buster for sure.  I am waiting for the comments of a 3-6+ in  snow event in less than 10 days on both the GFS and CMC  evening runs ---what a joke

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6 minutes ago, Albedoman said:

oh its coming  like i said earlier wam bam thank you mam. 2 inches - no way 1 inch remote possibility  likely .60 in of rain. keep the spring flowers budding and green up some grass areas. No drought buster for sure.  I am waiting for the comments of a 3-6+ in  snow event in less than 10 days on both the GFS and CMC  evening runs ---what a joke

man I stopped checking for digital snow on the GFS like a month ago. It's all fake news. Pretty to look at, and ponder at, but never real.

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I feel like nowcasting is the only way to see how things pan out these days. Forecasts have been utter rubbish for (checks notes...) years now? Yeesh. No disrespect to our prof mets, but yeah. Rain all afternoon today? Nope. Ten degrees lower than forecasted yesterday. Countless model-predicted snows this winter and nothing. Something is deeply amiss in our ability to forecast weather with any kind of accuracy these days.
 
I feel like all we can do at this point is watch the radar and try to see what's going to happen in the next couple of hours. Forget being able to see anything long-term, other than painting really, really broad strokes.
That said... I am somewhat concerned with the radar at the moment:
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I have been a weather weenie for decades, and I feel the forecast accuracy has decreased. The weather patterns over the last several years are producing a lot less 1/4” - 3/4” steady rainfalls, which are now just becoming cloudy days like today. The models need to evolve to catch up with the evolving patterns of more extreme dry and wet pattens in which you’re relying on less events to get the same amount of rainfall. I also find it interesting that warm fronts produce a lot less rainfall than they did in our past. Hopefully we can catch a break tonight and get some real precipitation from the approaching line after the bust during the day. The waterways are really low for March.
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First  rumble of thunder this year. Raining steadily for about 10 so far minutes. Finally hear rain on the roof. The spring bulbs and grass are going to love this nitrogen infused rain. Convective rainfall infuses tons of natures free nitrogen fertilizer into the ground for the lawns to quickly green up. Just what the doctor ordered. Goodbye yellow grass.

 

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30 minutes ago, RedSky said:

.30" :thumbsdown:

one more round of showers in the next hour, should  reach .60 like I  first thought. Accurately predicting  1-2 in rains are not in the cards for another few weeks. It's like predicting a 6" snow event ---NADA. The drought lives on. At least things will green up now  better late than never.

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3 minutes ago, Albedoman said:

one more round of showers in the next hour, should  reach .60 like I  first thought. Accurately predicting  1-2 in rains are not in the cards for another few weeks. It's like predicting a 6" snow event ---NADA. The drought lives on. At least things will green up now  better late than never.

It's trying to back build

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Hit my first 70 for the year yesterday just before 3 pm (after a low of 40).  Had expected to get some kind of measurable before midnight but nada - my rain was all registered for today.  No convection/lightning detected here. The plot of the temp/dp shows when that cold front came through just after midnight!

Currently have 1.08" in the bucket at post time and it's currently 54 with dp 54 and light rain.

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0.68” total here in sw lehigh county. It’s certainly better than nothing, but definitely a bit disappointing. We definitely needed a lot more than that. Hopefully we can add at least 1/4” or so and do well next Monday.


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We picked up 0.44” of rain since yesterday…unfortunately quite a bit less than hoped. Today’s temperatures will be close to normal for mid-March with highs in the lower 50’s. A freeze is possible especially for lower elevations across the area by dawn tomorrow. We then warm up again into the 60’s through Thursday. Our next rain chances arrive on Thursday. It’s much cooler by Friday as we close out the work week.

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2 hours ago, LVLion77 said:

0.68” total here in sw lehigh county. It’s certainly better than nothing, but definitely a bit disappointing. We definitely needed a lot more than that. Hopefully we can add at least 1/4” or so and do well next Monday.


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you verified my forecast of  .60 yesterday.  Thanks Still thinking snow for the weekend.  LMAO

 

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