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Spring 2025 Medium/Long Range Discussion


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With the PV stretching out before it dissipates, there should still be a couple opportunities in the 2nd half of March for transient cold blasts and even light snowfall amounts in this subforum.

But yeah, the prospects of a significant snowfall and lost-lasting cold look increasingly unlikely at this point between the Teleconnections and MJO forecast.

One thing to watch though, as we transition into Summer, will be the worsening drought in the SW USA. It is giving shades of 2011 (although obviously the ENSO state isn't quite the same).

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13 minutes ago, Powerball said:

With the PV stretching out before it dissipates, there should still be a couple opportunities in the 2nd half of March for transient cold blasts and even light snowfall amounts in this subforum.

But yeah, the prospects of a significant snowfall and lost-lasting cold look increasingly unlikely at this point between the Teleconnections and MJO forecast.

One thing to watch though, as we transition into Summer, will be the worsening drought in the SW USA. It is giving shades of 2011 (although obviously the ENSO state isn't quite the same).

It isn't just the SW.  Draw a diagonal line from there to Minnesota then go 500 miles either side of that.  Many parts of this sub forum are pretty dry also.

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I’m sure the spreadsheets say otherwise, but regarding drought, there have been so many brush fires out by me to start this spring

Locally this past fall, winter, and now spring have been extremely dry. Couple that with some very high winds, there have been sirens quite often from neighboring towns heading off to the plume of smoke off in the distance.

Burning leaves, even when things have been damp, is no problem at all. It’s almost scary to fire up the Smokey Joe right now for some brats.

Just a very dry period locally and looking forward to a wet and humid spring to bring everything back to life out my way

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22 hours ago, King James said:

I’m sure the spreadsheets say otherwise, but regarding drought, there have been so many brush fires out by me to start this spring

Locally this past fall, winter, and now spring have been extremely dry. Couple that with some very high winds, there have been sirens quite often from neighboring towns heading off to the plume of smoke off in the distance.

Burning leaves, even when things have been damp, is no problem at all. It’s almost scary to fire up the Smokey Joe right now for some brats.

Just a very dry period locally and looking forward to a wet and humid spring to bring everything back to life out my way

We had 6 brush/field fires in our county from 4PM Tuesday-4PM yesterday.

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7 hours ago, hawkeye_wx said:

Models are getting a bit frisky with the midweek storm.  The new Euro is stronger and farther south.  Other models are farther north.  This Euro run has 70º here Tuesday and then heavy snow and wind Wednesday.

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Classic spring stuff. Late march and April snowstorms are lots of fun and for the Debbie downers it should be a given that they do not last long. 

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14 hours ago, hawkeye_wx said:

Models are getting a bit frisky with the midweek storm.  The new Euro is stronger and farther south.  Other models are farther north.  This Euro run has 70º here Tuesday and then heavy snow and wind Wednesday.

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Pending any moisture issues that has the look of another potentially significant :twister:threat in the warm sector of that system, and we haven't even begun today/tomorrow's. Verbatim that would be much more favorably placed for a workday chase for me. Today's is just a tad too far to go for storms that will be after dark, after being up since 3:30 this morning.

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24 minutes ago, CheeselandSkies said:

Interesting, I keep hearing a lot of talk about how we just had a big SSWE. I used to think those inevitably led to prolonged cold springs in the East/Midwest.

 

I'm pretty sure it was just another PV stretch (the final one for the season as the PV dissipates) which don't always translate to severe / lasting cold spells.

SSWE, like Polar Vortex in the context of winter storms, is grossly overused terminology in weather discussions (but especilly by one Met in particular).

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