March 2025

[MJO812]

Have to change the clocks ahead tonight. I hate this crap.

[donsutherland1]

11 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Isn't this list somewhat misleading though? Isn't it just calculating calendar days with less than 6 inches of snow and not events? Couldn't the same event have 5 inches of snow through midnight and 5 inches after midnight for a 10 inch storm total and this list would still count that as consecutive days without a six inch snowfall?

I thought the question concerned consecutive days without 6" or more snow. Obviously, the intervals between 6"+ storms is shorter

[the_other_guy]

Just now, MJO812 said:

Have to change the clocks ahead tonight. I hate this crap.

Have kids and it becomes abundantly clear why we do it.

 

Frankly, im tired of hearing the complaints from the masses about the twice a year you are horrified to by the one hour time change haha

[Brian5671]

1 minute ago, the_other_guy said:

Have kids and it becomes abundantly clear why we do it.

 

Frankly, im tired of hearing the complaints from the masses about the twice a year you are horrified to by the one hour time change haha

Always the same complaints around when we do it but it goes away fast.   Will be interesting to see if we go to permanent DST if we do get ready for some dark winter mornings with an 8:20am sunrise in NYC

[Sundog]

1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

Always the same complaints around when we do it but it goes away fast.   Will be interesting to see if we go to permanent DST if we do get ready for some dark winter mornings with an 8:20am sunrise in NYC

 

Bro it's already dark in the morning in winter. Might as well have the light until 530PM. 

[Sundog]

5 minutes ago, the_other_guy said:

Have kids and it becomes abundantly clear why we do it.

 

Frankly, im tired of hearing the complaints from the masses about the twice a year you are horrified to by the one hour time change haha

 

I'd love DST all year. Early sunsets are depressing. 

[IrishRob17]

12 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said:

Getting a heavy snow squall right now here in Gosen, NY

Yeah, the flakes are flying up here this morning. 

[IrishRob17]

1 minute ago, Sundog said:

 

I'd love DST all year. Early sunsets are depressing. 

So is getting up in the dark 

[Brian5671]

5 minutes ago, Sundog said:

 

Bro it's already dark in the morning in winter. Might as well have the light until 530PM. 

agree if we do one or the other I'd do perm DST. ...but we did that in 74-75 and it was quickly dumped due to the dark AM's.  Some places would have 9:15am sunrises.

[SnoSki14]

4 minutes ago, Sundog said:

 

I'd love DST all year. Early sunsets are depressing. 

It's been done and failed miserably. 

Standard time works best and has been proven many times over. Also matches better with our circadian rhythms.

Also disagree. Nothing more depressing than cold, dark mornings. Can't imagine it being nearly 8am and pitch black. 

[Sundog]

Just now, IrishRob17 said:

So is getting up in the dark 

 

But we already do that lol

Unless you go to work at like 9AM. But even then most people are waking up while it's still dark.

If we lived in the western half of the time zone we'd already be experiencing permanent DST conditions in winter. It's not abnormal. Hundreds of millions of people have darkness in the morning, huge swaths of Europe are even worse because of its higher latitude. 

We'll be ok. 

[Sundog]

Just now, Brian5671 said:

agree if we do one or the other I'd do perm DST. ...but we did that in 74-75 and it was quickly dumped due to the dark AM's.  Some places would have 9:15am sunrises.

 

They'll get over it lol 

World is getting warmer, you'll be able to have lovely evening winter walks with some light. 

[Brasiluvsnow]

4 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

So is getting up in the dark 

FACT

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

It's been done and failed miserably. 

Standard time works best and has been proven many times over. Also matches better with our circadian rhythms.

Also disagree. Nothing more depressing than cold, dark mornings. Can't imagine it being nearly 8am and pitch black. 

 

We don't need the Sun rising at 4AM in July.

Either we keep it the way it is or we go permanent DST. 

[Sundog]

Btw our circadian rhythm also tells us to go to sleep when the Sun goes down. But I doubt you all go to sleep at 7 or 8 PM in summer or 5PM in winter haha

We already violate the natural body cycles, might as well have natural light instead of artificial light for an extra hour in the evenings. 

[forkyfork]

sunset should be at midnight

[snowman19]

15 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said:

Yeah, the flakes are flying up here this morning. 

It’s unstable as hell. There’s some serious cold air aloft, stratocumulus galore right now 

[IrishRob17]

3 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

It’s unstable as hell. There’s some serious cold air aloft, stratocumulus galore right now 

Some gusty winds making it down again, not like yesterday but still gusty. 

[gravitylover]

Yup just had a nice squall move through. Hmm, will this be the last coating of the season...?

[Brian5671]

24 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

It’s unstable as hell. There’s some serious cold air aloft, stratocumulus galore right now 

Classic March day-windy chilly and culumus fair weather clouds racing SE

[MANDA]

52 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

I thought the question concerned consecutive days without 6" or more snow. Obviously, the intervals between 6"+ storms is shorter

Don.  Yes that was my original question.  You are correct.

Do you have the ability to make a chart for intervals?  Both for 4" and 6"?

[TWCCraig]

20 minutes ago, Sundog said:

 

We don't need the Sun rising at 4AM in July.

Either we keep it the way it is or we go permanent DST. 

Agree, there's no need for the sun to be up at 4am in the summer and twilight would begin around 3am. That gets lost a lot in these conversations about permanent standard time. Personally, I'd much rather have that light in the evening when the vast majority of people are awake. I don't mind an 8am sunrise in the winter, we're already waking up and going to work in the dark. I'd much rather have the daylight when I get home. It would help if you're doing anything outside. Everyone has their preferences, there's nothing wrong with what anyone prefers. This debate will resurface again come November lol

I digress, it's 45 and partly cloudy, another windy day on tap

[SnoSki14]

Permanent daylight savings time has been tried and failed. Doesn't matter what your preference is, that's just reality. 

Either way I doubt anything will change anytime soon given these pointless debates rage on. 

[LAVistaNY]

Am I the only freak who loves the time change? For the same reason I don’t live in Florida where it’s the same all year. I look forward to change and not feeling stagnant!

[Stormlover74]

18 minutes ago, MANDA said:

Don.  Yes that was my original question.  You are correct.

Do you have the ability to make a chart for intervals?  Both for 4" and 6"?

I will say in that 87 through 90 period we had at least 5 or 6 4" events. 2 in feb 87, 2 in Jan 88. I think 1 in January 89 and then Thanksgiving 89. The current stretch has featured one in February 24 and 1 this past winter in central park?

[donsutherland1]

2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I will say in that 87 through 90 period we had at least 5 or 6 4" events. 2 in feb 87, 2 in Jan 88. I think 1 in January 89 and then Thanksgiving 89. The current stretch has featured one in February 24 and 1 this past winter in central park?

Intervals in days or between storms?

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Brian5671 said:

Always the same complaints around when we do it but it goes away fast.   Will be interesting to see if we go to permanent DST if we do get ready for some dark winter mornings with an 8:20am sunrise in NYC

health workers want to go to permanent standard time though.

The solution is simple, schools should start later.  There is NO reason to start school at 8 am or earlier.  The school day should be no longer than 6 hours, 9 AM TO 3 PM.  I HATED waking up in the morning even back then and was routinely either late or simply skipped the first class and told the teacher to just give me the tests and I'll Iearn on my own and take them myself.  They usually obliged (I took the tests in their office when I was high school and helped them with grading tests so I got extra privileges.)

 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I will say in that 87 through 90 period we had at least 5 or 6 4" events. 2 in feb 87, 2 in Jan 88. I think 1 in January 89 and then Thanksgiving 89. The current stretch has featured one in February 24 and 1 this past winter in central park?

Yes 4" events were much more common back then, we had at least one in even our worst winters.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

 

We don't need the Sun rising at 4AM in July.

Either we keep it the way it is or we go permanent DST. 

Is there really much of a difference between the sun rising at 4 am or 5 am in July? I would be sleeping through it either way.

I have black out curtains, everyone should, it also keeps light pollution at bay.

Healthcare workers point to numerous signs that Daylight time is bad.

 

[Stormlover74]

4 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Intervals in days or between storms?

Probably an interval of just over 400 days from Nov 89 through Dec 90 for 4" events