golfer67 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago March 2025 thread... 5% March, 95% climate discussion 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago So after the SSW event is over, maybe we’ll have some 70s in April. Doesn’t appear that March will give us them, sadly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 53 minutes ago, sn0w said: March 2025 thread... 5% March, 95% climate discussion RIP Winter 2025 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago On the plus side some showers tonight and tomorrow to wash away all the road salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said: We were talking about historic snows and I mentioned February 1798 in Norfolk, and one of the citations I saw given for that storm was to C. F. Volney's "A View of the Soil and Climate of the United States" (1803), so I decide to read this book. And I was quite surprised because he mentions parakeets [paroquets] overwintering in the valley of the Scioto River. I'm thinking "parrots in Ohio" - this guy must have been off his rocker. It turns out there were literally parakeets in Ohio (and elsewhere in the eastern and central United States) and we killed them all. Insane. Source: Carolina parakeet - Wikipedia Yes they were exterminated the same way the Passenger Pigeon was. Humans have done horrendous things through history both to each other and to our fellow animals. For some really stupid reasons like feathers in hats. The people doing this must have been really pissed off when the women's rights movement decided to oppose this barbaric behavior by using fake fathers. This primitive behavior wasn't isolated to the United States either, barbaric colonizers who came to New Zealand decided to murder flightless parrots who live there in the middle of the night while they were sleeping with large nets and hammered them to death. These birds mate for life and refused to leave their mates while this mass murder was occurring. This in addition to the feral pests (cats, rats, etc.) who also preyed upon the native wildlife. Those flightless parrots were thought to be extinct, but a small population of them were found on an island which was blissfully free of humans and they are now vigorously protected. Ugly nearly hairless apes (as in humans) have always been jealous of other creatures who are much more attractive than they are and have always wanted what they have. Those are the facts. In a bit of poetic justice, we have large flocks of parakeets here in New York. These are called Monk Parakeets. They are extremely smart and very social and huddle near electrical wires for warmth during the winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, JustinRP37 said: It always amazes me that people forget the laws of physics when it comes to fossil fuels. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed (we must have forgotten that fossil fuels are exempt from this and once burned they disappear and have no effect on climate). Also, the “ it was warmer in the past” argument. Well, yes, it was, but let's also see how current-day plants and animals would survive in those climates millions of years ago. We aren't bacteria. And we wonder why measles is coming back when people believe scientists and doctors are full of $ hit. I swear we live in one weird timeline. Anyways, let's please talk about the weather and how after today we trend back down to below seasonal norms for temp before returning to right around seasonal norms next week? Maybe? Energy can be created or destroyed, it's called virtual energy (and virtual particles) that can flit into and out of existence over very short time scales, but in any conventional sense it can't be created or destroyed. I'm sure people are fully aware of this with regards to fossil fuels too, but they simply do not care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 22 hours ago Author Share Posted 22 hours ago Hopefully, we remain uncoupled like we have all winter with everything remaining bottom up rather than top down. Since everyone is ready for spring now. But it would be pretty funny if we finally get a benchmark track in April with 45° and cold rain.You bring up a very good point. Even if this SSWE was to occur, there are zero guarantees that it would even couple. None of the stratospheric displacements and wave reflection events this winter (since November) ever coupled with the troposphere, so why would this one? And even if it did, there is a lag from when this is projected to occur, that would bring us into the final week of March or the start of April before the impacts would be felt. Too little, too late. We will be into astronomical spring at that point and all that would do is piss off 90% of the members here when there’s a coastal storm and it’s in the 40’s and raining 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said: There's no reason to believe that we would have reverted to even Pliocene conditions in the absence of manmade climate change any time in the near future. I suppose in hundreds of millions of years, the luminosity of the sun may have increased enough to create a new hothouse earth. Why do you think the climate should have reverted back to the conditions that were present millions of years ago? The Pleistocene began circa 2.8 mya and there have been periodic large-scale glaciations during that whole time. The figure I saw for earth becoming uninhabitable was 250 million years into the future (this assuming no AGW.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: snow is still possible in April but it seems most cases are after snowy winters? This is an interesting test case since, although the winter didn't have much snow it was at least somewhat cold. Snow in April after less snowy winters were on the minor side-- for example April 1990, April 1997, April 2000, April 2006. All were less than 2 inches. March and April snowfall has been way down during the 2020s. Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 0.1 T 0.1 2024 T 0.0 T 2023 0.1 0.0 0.1 2022 0.4 0.0 0.4 2021 T 0.0 T 2020 T T T Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.0 0.6 6.5 2019 10.4 0.0 10.4 2018 11.6 5.5 17.1 2017 9.7 0.0 9.7 2016 0.9 T 0.9 2015 18.6 0.0 18.6 2014 0.1 T 0.1 2013 7.3 0.0 7.3 2012 0.0 0.0 0.0 2011 1.0 T 1.0 2010 T 0.0 T Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 3.5 0.5 4.0 2009 8.3 T 8.3 2008 T 0.0 T 2007 6.0 T 6.0 2006 1.3 0.1 1.4 2005 6.9 0.0 6.9 2004 4.8 0.0 4.8 2003 3.5 4.0 7.5 2002 T T T 2001 3.8 0.0 3.8 2000 0.4 1.2 1.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 5.7 0.1 5.8 1999 4.5 0.0 4.5 1998 5.0 0.0 5.0 1997 1.7 T 1.7 1996 13.2 0.7 13.9 1995 T T T 1994 8.1 0.0 8.1 1993 11.9 0.0 11.9 1992 9.4 T 9.4 1991 0.2 0.0 0.2 1990 3.1 0.6 3.7 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 3.0 1.0 4.1 1989 2.5 0.0 2.5 1988 T 0.0 T 1987 1.9 0.0 1.9 1986 T T T 1985 0.2 T 0.2 1984 11.9 0.0 11.9 1983 T 0.8 0.8 1982 0.7 9.6 10.3 1981 8.6 0.0 8.6 1980 4.6 T 4.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 2.3 0.1 2.4 1979 T T T 1978 6.8 T 6.8 1977 0.6 T 0.6 1976 4.4 T 4.4 1975 0.3 T 0.3 1974 3.2 0.3 3.5 1973 0.2 T 0.2 1972 2.3 T 2.3 1971 1.3 0.4 1.7 1970 4.0 T 4.0 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.1 0.1 6.2 1969 5.6 0.0 5.6 1968 6.1 0.0 6.1 1967 17.4 T 17.4 1966 T 0.0 T 1965 2.8 1.2 4.0 1964 6.0 T 6.0 1963 2.8 T 2.8 1962 0.2 T 0.2 1961 1.2 T 1.2 1960 18.5 0.0 18.5 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.2 1.0 7.2 1959 6.7 0.6 7.3 1958 15.9 0.2 16.1 1957 2.6 2.5 5.1 1956 21.1 4.2 25.3 1955 3.6 0.0 3.6 1954 0.1 0.3 0.4 1953 0.9 T 0.9 1952 7.4 0.0 7.4 1951 2.7 0.0 2.7 1950 1.4 1.9 3.3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 6 minutes ago, snowman19 said: You bring up a very good point. Even if this SSWE was to occur, there are zero guarantees that it would even couple. None of the stratospheric displacements and wave reflection events this winter (since November) ever coupled with the troposphere, so why would this one? And even if it did, there is a lag from when this is projected to occur, that would bring us into the final week of March or the start of April before the impacts would be felt. Too little, too late. We will be into astronomical spring at that point and all that would do is piss off 90% of the members here when there’s a coastal storm and it’s in the 40’s and raining Or endless days of onshore flow, mist, drizzle and stratus...no thanks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: March and April snowfall has been way down during the 2020s. Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 0.1 T 0.1 2024 T 0.0 T 2023 0.1 0.0 0.1 2022 0.4 0.0 0.4 2021 T 0.0 T 2020 T T T Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.0 0.6 6.5 2019 10.4 0.0 10.4 2018 11.6 5.5 17.1 2017 9.7 0.0 9.7 2016 0.9 T 0.9 2015 18.6 0.0 18.6 2014 0.1 T 0.1 2013 7.3 0.0 7.3 2012 0.0 0.0 0.0 2011 1.0 T 1.0 2010 T 0.0 T Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 3.5 0.5 4.0 2009 8.3 T 8.3 2008 T 0.0 T 2007 6.0 T 6.0 2006 1.3 0.1 1.4 2005 6.9 0.0 6.9 2004 4.8 0.0 4.8 2003 3.5 4.0 7.5 2002 T T T 2001 3.8 0.0 3.8 2000 0.4 1.2 1.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 5.7 0.1 5.8 1999 4.5 0.0 4.5 1998 5.0 0.0 5.0 1997 1.7 T 1.7 1996 13.2 0.7 13.9 1995 T T T 1994 8.1 0.0 8.1 1993 11.9 0.0 11.9 1992 9.4 T 9.4 1991 0.2 0.0 0.2 1990 3.1 0.6 3.7 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 3.0 1.0 4.1 1989 2.5 0.0 2.5 1988 T 0.0 T 1987 1.9 0.0 1.9 1986 T T T 1985 0.2 T 0.2 1984 11.9 0.0 11.9 1983 T 0.8 0.8 1982 0.7 9.6 10.3 1981 8.6 0.0 8.6 1980 4.6 T 4.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 2.3 0.1 2.4 1979 T T T 1978 6.8 T 6.8 1977 0.6 T 0.6 1976 4.4 T 4.4 1975 0.3 T 0.3 1974 3.2 0.3 3.5 1973 0.2 T 0.2 1972 2.3 T 2.3 1971 1.3 0.4 1.7 1970 4.0 T 4.0 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.1 0.1 6.2 1969 5.6 0.0 5.6 1968 6.1 0.0 6.1 1967 17.4 T 17.4 1966 T 0.0 T 1965 2.8 1.2 4.0 1964 6.0 T 6.0 1963 2.8 T 2.8 1962 0.2 T 0.2 1961 1.2 T 1.2 1960 18.5 0.0 18.5 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.2 1.0 7.2 1959 6.7 0.6 7.3 1958 15.9 0.2 16.1 1957 2.6 2.5 5.1 1956 21.1 4.2 25.3 1955 3.6 0.0 3.6 1954 0.1 0.3 0.4 1953 0.9 T 0.9 1952 7.4 0.0 7.4 1951 2.7 0.0 2.7 1950 1.4 1.9 3.3 Thanks Chris, do you have a similar list for JFK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 13 minutes ago, bluewave said: March and April snowfall has been way down during the 2020s. Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 0.1 T 0.1 2024 T 0.0 T 2023 0.1 0.0 0.1 2022 0.4 0.0 0.4 2021 T 0.0 T 2020 T T T Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.0 0.6 6.5 2019 10.4 0.0 10.4 2018 11.6 5.5 17.1 2017 9.7 0.0 9.7 2016 0.9 T 0.9 2015 18.6 0.0 18.6 2014 0.1 T 0.1 2013 7.3 0.0 7.3 2012 0.0 0.0 0.0 2011 1.0 T 1.0 2010 T 0.0 T Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 3.5 0.5 4.0 2009 8.3 T 8.3 2008 T 0.0 T 2007 6.0 T 6.0 2006 1.3 0.1 1.4 2005 6.9 0.0 6.9 2004 4.8 0.0 4.8 2003 3.5 4.0 7.5 2002 T T T 2001 3.8 0.0 3.8 2000 0.4 1.2 1.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 5.7 0.1 5.8 1999 4.5 0.0 4.5 1998 5.0 0.0 5.0 1997 1.7 T 1.7 1996 13.2 0.7 13.9 1995 T T T 1994 8.1 0.0 8.1 1993 11.9 0.0 11.9 1992 9.4 T 9.4 1991 0.2 0.0 0.2 1990 3.1 0.6 3.7 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 3.0 1.0 4.1 1989 2.5 0.0 2.5 1988 T 0.0 T 1987 1.9 0.0 1.9 1986 T T T 1985 0.2 T 0.2 1984 11.9 0.0 11.9 1983 T 0.8 0.8 1982 0.7 9.6 10.3 1981 8.6 0.0 8.6 1980 4.6 T 4.6 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 2.3 0.1 2.4 1979 T T T 1978 6.8 T 6.8 1977 0.6 T 0.6 1976 4.4 T 4.4 1975 0.3 T 0.3 1974 3.2 0.3 3.5 1973 0.2 T 0.2 1972 2.3 T 2.3 1971 1.3 0.4 1.7 1970 4.0 T 4.0 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.1 0.1 6.2 1969 5.6 0.0 5.6 1968 6.1 0.0 6.1 1967 17.4 T 17.4 1966 T 0.0 T 1965 2.8 1.2 4.0 1964 6.0 T 6.0 1963 2.8 T 2.8 1962 0.2 T 0.2 1961 1.2 T 1.2 1960 18.5 0.0 18.5 Monthly Total Snowfall for NY CITY CENTRAL PARK, NYClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Mean 6.2 1.0 7.2 1959 6.7 0.6 7.3 1958 15.9 0.2 16.1 1957 2.6 2.5 5.1 1956 21.1 4.2 25.3 1955 3.6 0.0 3.6 1954 0.1 0.3 0.4 1953 0.9 T 0.9 1952 7.4 0.0 7.4 1951 2.7 0.0 2.7 1950 1.4 1.9 3.3 1956 was the best late season bar none, 21.1 inches in March followed by 4.2 inches in April, a total of 25.3 inches! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Or endless days of onshore flow, mist, drizzle and stratus...no thanks Sounds great 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Yes they were exterminated the same way the Passenger Pigeon was. Humans have done horrendous things through history both to each other and to our fellow animals. For some really stupid reasons like feathers in hats. The people doing this must have been really pissed off when the women's rights movement decided to oppose this barbaric behavior by using fake fathers. This primitive behavior wasn't isolated to the United States either, barbaric colonizers who came to New Zealand decided to murder flightless parrots who live there in the middle of the night while they were sleeping with large nets and hammered them to death. These birds mate for life and refused to leave their mates while this mass murder was occurring. This in addition to the feral pests (cats, rats, etc.) who also preyed upon the native wildlife. Those flightless parrots were thought to be extinct, but a small population of them were found on an island which was blissfully free of humans and they are now vigorously protected. Ugly nearly hairless apes (as in humans) have always been jealous of other creatures who are much more attractive than they are and have always wanted what they have. Those are the facts. In a bit of poetic justice, we have large flocks of parakeets here in New York. These are called Monk Parakeets. They are extremely smart and very social and huddle near electrical wires for warmth during the winter. I have seen those in Brooklyn. You can see their nests built on the telephone/cable poles. I wonder how many outages they are responsible for due to their nest building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, LibertyBell said: The figure I saw for earth becoming uninhabitable was 250 million years into the future (this assuming no AGW.) 250 million years in the future, if humans are still around, they probably would have found ways to control the weather, keep CO2 levels balanced to avoid global warming, or ice ages. Will have gone off in to space to explore other solar systems, possibly even other galaxies via their equivalent of warp drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago The very mild weather will prevail through the remainder of the month. High temperatures will top out in the lower and middle 50s tomorrow in New York City. Washington, DC will likely see highs reach the middle and upper 60s. Boston could see temperatures reach or exceed 50°. Afterward, high temperatures will cool somewhat to the middle and upper 40s to end February. A few showers are possible tomorrow and Friday. No meaningful threats for a moderate or larger snowfall in the New York City area are likely through at least the middle of the first week of March. There remain indications that a major pattern re-alignment could take place starting in the first week of March bringing an end to a persistently cold regime that has predominated through most of the winter. By mid-March, a sustained warmer than normal pattern could be in place. The pattern change will likely follow a brief but fairly sharp cold shot. A strong PNA ridge is currently in place. Historical experience suggests that the presence of such a ridge at this time of year has been followed by the absence of major snowfalls in the New York City area. The PNA reached +1.500 on February 19th and remained at or above +1.500 through February 23rd. In all 12 years that saw the PNA reach +1.500 or above on February 15 or later since 1950, the remainder of winter saw no 10" or greater snowstorms. If historic experience holds true yet again, that would make the Winter 2024-2025 the fourth consecutive winter without a 10" or above snowstorm in New York City. The last time that happened was during Winter 2016-2017 through Winter 2019-2020. Most of the 12 winters cited above went on to see some additional measurable snowfall with a few seeing a 6"+ storm. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.9°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.3°C for the week centered around February 12. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.03°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.65°C. La Niña conditions have peaked and are beginning to fade. La Niña conditions will likely persist into the start of spring. The SOI was +1.92 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +1.028 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 100% probability that New York City will have a colder than normal February (1991-2020 normal). February will likely finish with a mean temperature near 34.7° (1.2° below normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Wannabehippie said: 250 million years in the future, if humans are still around, they probably would have found ways to control the weather, keep CO2 levels balanced to avoid global warming, or ice ages. Will have gone off in to space to explore other solar systems, possibly even other galaxies via their equivalent of warp drive. Earth’s resources will be long spent by then. Because of this humans will either be extinct or already moved on and spread out to other habitable worlds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 4 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Energy can be created or destroyed, it's called virtual energy (and virtual particles) that can flit into and out of existence over very short time scales, but in any conventional sense it can't be created or destroyed. I'm sure people are fully aware of this with regards to fossil fuels too, but they simply do not care. What you state contradicts the First Law of Thermodynamics. When particles pop into existence, they borrow energy from what's known as vacuum energy. They don't create energy. The First Law applies to quantum mechanics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: 1956 was the best late season bar none, 21.1 inches in March followed by 4.2 inches in April, a total of 25.3 inches! And 23.7" after March 15th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krs4Lfe Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago I used to be somewhat skeptical not of climate change but the impacts that it has on tangible weather changes. But after seeing how the winters have gone since 2019, I fear this is the new normal. The past 2 seasons in particular were a big eye opener not necessarily because of lack of snow in this region but lack of storminess nationwide. Even 2019, 2023, 2022, winters that weren’t good for our area (or some that were even very bad), there was ample snowfall elsewhere in CONUS. I mean, in 2023, the west through Great Lakes got pounded with blizzard after blizzard and near record snow. But 2024 and 2025 winters have featured a lack of storminess across CONUS aside from a few week period in mid January to mid February. I fear this is the new normal, not just for us here in this subforum, but for the US as a whole. I hope I’m wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Wannabehippie said: I have seen those in Brooklyn. You can see their nests built on the telephone/cable poles. I wonder how many outages they are responsible for due to their nest building. All over southeast Bergen County. Hear their squaks all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 hours ago, Wannabehippie said: I have seen those in Brooklyn. You can see their nests built on the telephone/cable poles. I wonder how many outages they are responsible for due to their nest building. Probably none 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, Krs4Lfe said: I used to be somewhat skeptical not of climate change but the impacts that it has on tangible weather changes. But after seeing how the winters have gone since 2019, I fear this is the new normal. The past 2 seasons in particular were a big eye opener not necessarily because of lack of snow in this region but lack of storminess nationwide. Even 2019, 2023, 2022, winters that weren’t good for our area (or some that were even very bad), there was ample snowfall elsewhere in CONUS. I mean, in 2023, the west through Great Lakes got pounded with blizzard after blizzard and near record snow. But 2024 and 2025 winters have featured a lack of storminess across CONUS aside from a few week period in mid January to mid February. I fear this is the new normal, not just for us here in this subforum, but for the US as a whole. I hope I’m wrong I think you're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: And 23.7" after March 15th. I thought it would be 1966-67 since that was such an excellent late season too, but looks like 1955-56 was even better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 hours ago, Rjay said: I think you're wrong. I think it should be pretty apparent we have switched to a drier pattern. CC is all about extremes so we will probably be switching back and forth between very wet (already happened) to very dry (happening now) back to very wet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: What you state contradicts the First Law of Thermodynamics. When particles pop into existence, they borrow energy from what's known as vacuum energy. They don't create energy. The First Law applies to quantum mechanics. https://arxiv.org/abs/2102.01395#:~:text=Here we show that in,knowledge of heat and work. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01395 Perhaps not Don, this is interesting (I intuitively thought this might be the case because of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle): Fluctuations of thermodynamic observables, such as heat and work, contain relevant information on the underlying physical process. These fluctuations are however not taken into account in the traditional laws of thermodynamics. While the second law is extended to fluctuating systems by the celebrated fluctuation theorems, the first law is generally believed to hold even in the presence of fluctuations. Here we show that in the presence of quantum fluctuations, also the first law of thermodynamics may break down. This happens because quantum mechanics imposes constraints on the knowledge of heat and work. To illustrate our results, we provide a detailed case-study of work and heat fluctuations in a quantum heat engine based on a circuit QED architecture. We find probabilistic violations of the first law and show that they are closely connected to quantum signatures related to negative quasi-probabilities. Our results imply that in the presence of quantum fluctuations, the first law of thermodynamics may not be applicable to individual experimental runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 7 hours ago, Yanksfan said: Earth’s resources will be long spent by then. Because of this humans will either be extinct or already moved on and spread out to other habitable worlds. Yes, we better be. 250 million years or even 250 years is a hell of a long time in technological evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 7 hours ago, Wannabehippie said: 250 million years in the future, if humans are still around, they probably would have found ways to control the weather, keep CO2 levels balanced to avoid global warming, or ice ages. Will have gone off in to space to explore other solar systems, possibly even other galaxies via their equivalent of warp drive. Yes, it's probably either that or extinction. On the Kardashev scale it's predicted we would have some version of a warp drive in about 7,500 years but with the pace of technology I think it wouldn't take that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 7 hours ago, Wannabehippie said: I have seen those in Brooklyn. You can see their nests built on the telephone/cable poles. I wonder how many outages they are responsible for due to their nest building. I hope not, I think squirrels are probably more responsible for it. Wasn't our big outage back in August 2004 (I hope I got the year right) blamed on squirrels or a squirrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago Not surprisingly, the ensembles are backing way off on the possible snow event for next weekend. None of the teleconnections (+NAO, +AO, -PNA, +EPO, +WPO, no 50/50 Low) at any level are in favor of a coastal snowstorm….and 850mb temps going into it are going to be way too warm for snow. This is very likely going to be a far interior and elevated snow event. All rain, even for southern New England IMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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