March 2025

[Wxoutlooksblog]

6 hours ago, MJO812 said:

Nice cold shot next weekend

It looks as though we might transition back to a colder wetter pattern for a while beginning next weekend.

WX/PT

[bluewave]

21 hours ago, jm1220 said:

Right on cue for backdoor gunk season. 

Yeah, looks like the onshore flow and backdoor season has officially begun. So plenty of onshore flow going forward. West of the Hudson will be favored for the best warmth over the next week. 
 

 

[steve392]

42 degree's, humid feeling.  Very foggy and misty in Mahwah.

[donsutherland1]

Snow season ranking through March 15th:

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, looks like the onshore flow and backdoor season has officially begun. So plenty of onshore flow going forward. West of the Hudson will be favored for the best warmth over the next week. 
 

 

Is it unusual to have it so early? I thought it usually begins around April 15th, right after Tax Day....

and what causes it a negative NAO?

 

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

Snow season ranking through March 15th:

Interesting that 1954-55 is ranked higher with only 8.0 inches of snow lol.

Was that an el nino winter, Don?

I know the following winter was really good and a la nina.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, steve392 said:

42 degree's, humid feeling.  Very foggy and misty in Mahwah.

Two days of this crappy weather lol

Rain is way better than this murk.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, looks like the onshore flow and backdoor season has officially begun. So plenty of onshore flow going forward. West of the Hudson will be favored for the best warmth over the next week. 
 

 

the middle of next week will be really good everywhere with lots of sunshine.

 

[donsutherland1]

18 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Interesting that 1954-55 is ranked higher with only 8.0 inches of snow lol.

Was that an el nino winter, Don?

I know the following winter was really good and a la nina.

 

The rankings are from worst to best. Its higher ranking means that it was worse than the current winter.

[LibertyBell]

10 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

The rankings are from worst to best. Its higher ranking means that it was worse than the current winter.

ah so its higher score of .627 means it's actually worse?

Then it means the only winter on that list with less snow that was better was 1877-78 with 8.1 inches of snow.

[Sundog]

This cloud deck made it so dark this morning, I woke up thinking it was at least an hour earlier judging by the light level. 

[donsutherland1]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

ah so its higher score of .627 means it's actually worse?

Then it means the only winter on that list with less snow that was better was 1877-78 with 8.1 inches of snow.

Yes.

[SACRUS]

 

43 / 41 onshore flow and in the murk. Rain sunday night into Monday near an inch or more ( especially east). Warmer Tue/Wed.  Wetter pattern between 3/21 - 3/28. Looks like a potentially cloudy period.

 

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 79 (1990)
NYC: 77 (1990)
LGA: 74 (1990)
JFK: 72 (2024)

 

Lows:

EWR: 14 (1993)
NYC: 14 (1993)
LGA: 14 (1993)
JFK: 15 (1993)

Historical:

 

1938: A tornado hit McPaul, Iowa, while moving from southeast to northwest. Another tornado raced through Batesville, Illinois, at 60 to 65 mph. Another tornado causing F4 damage killed 10 and injured 12 in St. Clair County, Missouri. This tornado was part of an outbreak that produced four different tornadoes and was responsible for 11 deaths and 42 injuries.

1941 - The most severe blizzard in modern history struck North Dakota and Minnesota. The blizzard hit on a Saturday night while many are traveling, and thus claimed 71 lives. Winds gusted to 75 mph at Duluth MN, and reached 85 mph at Grand Forks ND. Snow drifts twelve feet high were reported in north central Minnesota. A cold front traveling 30 mph crossed Minnesota in just seven hours. (15th-16th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1987 - A winter storm in the western U.S. produced heavy snow in central Nevada, with 23 inches reported at Austin. High winds raked the desert areas of southern California and southern Arizona. Winds gusted to 59 mph at Douglas AZ. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - More than one hundred hours of continuous snow finally came to an end at Marquette MI, during which time the city was buried under 43 inches of snow. Unseasonably cold weather prevailed in the southeastern U.S., with forty-one cities reporting record low temperatures for the date. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Afternoon and evening thunderstorms produced severe weather from Alabama to the Middle Atlantic Coast. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 80 at Virginia Beach VA. Low pressure in southeastern Ontario produced high winds in the northeastern U.S. Winds gusted to 70 mph at Saint Albins VT. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Low pressure crossing the Upper Mississippi Valley produced high winds from the Northern and Central Plains to the Great Lakes Region and Ohio Valley. Winds gusted to 73 mph at Iowa City IA, and wind gusts reached 79 mph at Waukesha WI. Winds of 75 mph were reported around Rapid City SD, with gusts to 100 mph. Up to a foot of snow was reported in western Iowa, western Minnesota, and extreme eastern North Dakota. Blizzard conditions were reported in northeastern North Dakota and northwestern Minnesota. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

2004: Brownsville, Texas, breaks a century-old record for the most significant daily rainfall accumulation for March with 3.23 inches.

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

1 - 2 inches for the next week

 

 

[steve392]

44 foggy and misty currently and probably rest of day.  Perfect binge watching day.

[TJW014]

Migraine weather. Almost prefer sun and 30s

[bluewave]

3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Is it unusual to have it so early? I thought it usually begins around April 15th, right after Tax Day....

and what causes it a negative NAO?

 

It’s been very common in recent years. Very strong ridging into Southeast Canada turns the flow more onshore during our early spring warm ups these days. Back in the old days we could get deep westerly flow in the early spring so mid 80s would extend across Long Island like in March 1990. 

 

Monthly Data for March 1990 for Upton NY NWS CWA
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

NJ	CRANFORD	COOP	86
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	86
NJ	PLAINFIELD	COOP	85
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	85
NJ	ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG	COOP	85
NY	WEST NYACK	COOP	85
NY	MINEOLA	COOP	85
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	85
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	84
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	84
NJ	LITTLE FALLS	COOP	84
NY	DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY	COOP	84
NY	WESTBURY	COOP	84
CT	STAMFORD 5 N	COOP	84
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	84
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	83
NY	NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN	COOP	83
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	83
NJ	LODI	COOP	83
NY	PATCHOGUE 2 N	COOP	83
NJ	CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	82
NY	SUFFERN	COOP	82
NY	SCARSDALE	COOP	82
NY	DIX HILLS	COOP	82
NY	WESTCHESTER CO AP	WBAN	82
CT	NEW HAVEN	COOP	82
CT	MOUNT CARMEL	COOP	82
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	82
NJ	WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM	COOP	81
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	81
NY	WALDEN 1 ESE	COOP	81
NY	MIDDLETOWN 2 NW	COOP	80
NY	YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 1W	COOP	80
CT	COCKAPONSET RANGER STA	COOP	80
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	80
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	80

 

[LibertyBell]

10 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It’s been very common in recent years. Very strong ridging into Southeast Canada turns the flow more onshore during our early spring warm ups these days. Back in the old days we could get deep westerly flow in the early spring so mid 80s would extend across Long Island like in March 1990. 

 

Monthly Data for March 1990 for Upton NY NWS CWA
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

NJ	CRANFORD	COOP	86
NJ	NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP	WBAN	86
NJ	PLAINFIELD	COOP	85
NY	NY CITY CENTRAL PARK	WBAN	85
NJ	ESSEX FELLS SERVICE BLDG	COOP	85
NY	WEST NYACK	COOP	85
NY	MINEOLA	COOP	85
NY	JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT	WBAN	85
NY	PORT JERVIS	COOP	84
NJ	TETERBORO AIRPORT	WBAN	84
NJ	LITTLE FALLS	COOP	84
NY	DOBBS FERRY-ARDSLEY	COOP	84
NY	WESTBURY	COOP	84
CT	STAMFORD 5 N	COOP	84
CT	IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT	WBAN	84
NJ	CANOE BROOK	COOP	83
NY	NEW YORK AVE V BROOKLYN	COOP	83
NY	LAGUARDIA AIRPORT	WBAN	83
NJ	LODI	COOP	83
NY	PATCHOGUE 2 N	COOP	83
NJ	CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR	COOP	82
NY	SUFFERN	COOP	82
NY	SCARSDALE	COOP	82
NY	DIX HILLS	COOP	82
NY	WESTCHESTER CO AP	WBAN	82
CT	NEW HAVEN	COOP	82
CT	MOUNT CARMEL	COOP	82
NY	ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP	WBAN	82
NJ	WANAQUE RAYMOND DAM	COOP	81
NY	WEST POINT	COOP	81
NY	WALDEN 1 ESE	COOP	81
NY	MIDDLETOWN 2 NW	COOP	80
NY	YORKTOWN HEIGHTS 1W	COOP	80
CT	COCKAPONSET RANGER STA	COOP	80
NY	RIVERHEAD RESEARCH FARM	COOP	80
CT	NORWICH PUBLIC UTILITY PLANT	COOP	80

 

Yes and I see we had frequent temperatures in the low 90s during the so-called cold late 70s, like 1976, 77, 78 all had temperatures at or above 90 in April even though the ocean was MUCH colder back then!  

JFK at 85 before March 15th is absolutely awesome lol.  I wonder what the SST was?

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, TJW014 said:

Migraine weather. Almost prefer sun and 30s

yes this high humidity murky stuff is horrible and increases mold spores a lot.

Sunny and 30s is -MUCH- better than this.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

1 - 2 inches for the next week

 

 

This is just from the Sunday-Monday storm, Tony? Or is there something coming after that? Because that one storm alone is supposed to give us 1-2 inches.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 79 (1990)
NYC: 77 (1990)
LGA: 74 (1990)
JFK: 72 (2024)

 

Lows:

EWR: 14 (1993)
NYC: 14 (1993)
LGA: 14 (1993)
JFK: 15 (1993)

Historical:

 

1938: A tornado hit McPaul, Iowa, while moving from southeast to northwest. Another tornado raced through Batesville, Illinois, at 60 to 65 mph. Another tornado causing F4 damage killed 10 and injured 12 in St. Clair County, Missouri. This tornado was part of an outbreak that produced four different tornadoes and was responsible for 11 deaths and 42 injuries.

1941 - The most severe blizzard in modern history struck North Dakota and Minnesota. The blizzard hit on a Saturday night while many are traveling, and thus claimed 71 lives. Winds gusted to 75 mph at Duluth MN, and reached 85 mph at Grand Forks ND. Snow drifts twelve feet high were reported in north central Minnesota. A cold front traveling 30 mph crossed Minnesota in just seven hours. (15th-16th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1987 - A winter storm in the western U.S. produced heavy snow in central Nevada, with 23 inches reported at Austin. High winds raked the desert areas of southern California and southern Arizona. Winds gusted to 59 mph at Douglas AZ. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - More than one hundred hours of continuous snow finally came to an end at Marquette MI, during which time the city was buried under 43 inches of snow. Unseasonably cold weather prevailed in the southeastern U.S., with forty-one cities reporting record low temperatures for the date. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Afternoon and evening thunderstorms produced severe weather from Alabama to the Middle Atlantic Coast. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 80 at Virginia Beach VA. Low pressure in southeastern Ontario produced high winds in the northeastern U.S. Winds gusted to 70 mph at Saint Albins VT. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1990 - Low pressure crossing the Upper Mississippi Valley produced high winds from the Northern and Central Plains to the Great Lakes Region and Ohio Valley. Winds gusted to 73 mph at Iowa City IA, and wind gusts reached 79 mph at Waukesha WI. Winds of 75 mph were reported around Rapid City SD, with gusts to 100 mph. Up to a foot of snow was reported in western Iowa, western Minnesota, and extreme eastern North Dakota. Blizzard conditions were reported in northeastern North Dakota and northwestern Minnesota. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

2004: Brownsville, Texas, breaks a century-old record for the most significant daily rainfall accumulation for March with 3.23 inches.

 

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 79 (1990)
NYC: 77 (1990)
LGA: 74 (1990)
JFK: 72 (2024)

 

Lows:

EWR: 14 (1993)
NYC: 14 (1993)
LGA: 14 (1993)
JFK: 15 (1993)

 

What a contrast! Was this peak cold for 1993, Tony?

 

I had forgotten it was 72 here on this date last year!

 

[Stormlover74]

Still supposed to get to 55 today but currently an overcast 44

[forkyfork]

meso models are all over the place for tomorrow

[SACRUS]

7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

This is just from the Sunday-Monday storm, Tony? Or is there something coming after that? Because that one storm alone is supposed to give us 1-2 inches.

Thursday there is around 0.10 - 0.25 then beyond there its Day 9 Mon 24th

[SACRUS]

5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

 

 

Lows:

EWR: 14 (1993)
NYC: 14 (1993)
LGA: 14 (1993)
JFK: 15 (1993)

 

What a contrast! Was this peak cold for 1993, Tony?

 

I had forgotten it was 72 here on this date last year!

 

 

yes for 1993 that was the coldest readings.   The period 3/12 - 3/20 was well below normal comined with thew super storm.

[bluewave]

10 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes and I see we had frequent temperatures in the low 90s during the so-called cold late 70s, like 1976, 77, 78 all had temperatures at or above 90 in April even though the ocean was MUCH colder back then!  

JFK at 85 before March 15th is absolutely awesome lol.  I wonder what the SST was?

Yeah, that was 3-13-90. We used to get flatter ridges over the Southeast with strong westerly flow warm ups. So the warmest temperatures were directed right in to the area. Now the over the top warm ups have become the norm going into Canada first. So this leaves room for more backdoors and onshore flow. 

[forkyfork]

2 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

meso models are all over the place for tomorrow

i'm inclined to lean west with this ridging but convection offshore could rob us 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, that was 3-13-90. We used to get flatter ridges over the Southeast with strong westerly flow warm ups. So the warmest temperatures were directed right in to the area. Now the over the top warm ups have become the norm going into Canada first. So this leaves room for more backdoors and onshore flow. 

This has also muted our summer heat in terms of extended heatwaves of 7+ days as well as extremely hot weather, 100+.

[nycwinter]

when i went out this morning temp was 42 and it felt like the coldest it has ever felt all winter due to moist wind off the chilly ocean.. and i was wearing a hoodie winter coat hat and gloves...i loved it i will  miss days like this..