March 2025

[bluewave]

9 hours ago, the_other_guy said:

Man you have been talking about that magic 70 for 3 weeks already! woo hoo

Do you have something against spring? Statistically we eventually have a better chance of reaching 70° in March for the warm spots than the magic snowstorm that was always over a week away all winter. But this time of year we usually have to deal with backdoors so the timing can be off by a few days. Plus it takes until later into spring eastern sections due to the onshore flow and ocean still being so cold.

This year could actually take longer than recent years especially east due to how cold the ocean has become to our east with the strong winds over the winter. The Gulf Of Maine is the coldest it has been since 2015 and 2019. It’s also possible the cooler SSTs could limit moisture a bit leading to rainfall underperforming model forecasts. So while the drought will continue, at least we will have a nice stretch of spring weather. With the big rainstorm always being more than a week out like the winter snowstorms were.
 

[LibertyBell]

26 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Do you have something against spring? Statistically we eventually have a better chance of reaching 70° in March for the warm spots than the magic snowstorm that was always over a week away all winter. But this time of year we usually have to deal with backdoors so the timing can be off by a few days. Plus it takes until later into spring eastern sections due to the onshore flow and ocean still being so cold.

This year could actually take longer than recent years especially east due to how cold the ocean has become to our east with the strong winds over the winter. The Gulf Of Maine is the coldest it has been since 2015 and 2019. It’s also possible the cooler SSTs could limit moisture a bit leading to rainfall underperforming model forecasts. So while the drought will continue, at least we will have a nice stretch of spring weather. With the big rainstorm always being more than a week out like the winter snowstorms were.
 

The only thing I have against it are allergies.  But I noticed I have much less allergies when there's no wind and only a small amount of rain.

[LibertyBell]

26 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Do you have something against spring? Statistically we eventually have a better chance of reaching 70° in March for the warm spots than the magic snowstorm that was always over a week away all winter. But this time of year we usually have to deal with backdoors so the timing can be off by a few days. Plus it takes until later into spring eastern sections due to the onshore flow and ocean still being so cold.

This year could actually take longer than recent years especially east due to how cold the ocean has become to our east with the strong winds over the winter. The Gulf Of Maine is the coldest it has been since 2015 and 2019. It’s also possible the cooler SSTs could limit moisture a bit leading to rainfall underperforming model forecasts. So while the drought will continue, at least we will have a nice stretch of spring weather. With the big rainstorm always being more than a week out like the winter snowstorms were.
 

Would the predominantly westerly flow cancel out the effects of the cooler ocean, Chris?

Maybe not 70s, but it certainly looks like we will be in the 60s a lot here.

 

[LibertyBell]

23 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

I agree. Hopefully, the forecast rain for next weekend on the guidance will materialize.

Hopefully well after the total lunar eclipse, Don

[LibertyBell]

20 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

 

46 / 14 off a low of 26.  Warmer today with more winds kicking up later today.  50s today, 60s Mon / Tue  - some of the warmer spots may get 70 for the first time since mid Nov.   Could see  more gloomy / cloudy period during the Thu - Sun period coming up with next shot of rain during the weekend 15-16 and into Sat Patrick's Day week.

 

 

 

I would hope the weather is better for the eclipse Thursday Night.

 

[LibertyBell]

20 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 82 (2016)
NYC: 77 (2016)
LGA: 75 (2016)
JFK: 67 (1973)


Lows;

EWR: 10 (1996)
NYC: 11 (1996)
LGA: 14 (1996)
JFK: 13 (1996)

 

Historical:

 

1891: From March 9 through the 13th, a blizzard struck southern England and Wales with gale-force winds. 220 people were killed; 65 ships foundered in the English Channel, and 6,000 sheep perished. Countless trees were uprooted, and trains were buried. Up to a foot of snow and snowdrifts of 11.5 feet were reported in Dulwich, London, Torquay, Sidmouth, and Dartmouth.

1956 - A whopping 367 inches of snow was measured on the ground at the Ranier Paradise Ranger Station in Washington. The snow depth was a state record and the second highest total of record for the continental U.S. (The Weather Channel)

1960 - A winter storm produced a narrow band of heavy snow from north central Kentucky into Virginia and the mountains of North Carolina. Snowfall amounts ranged from 12 to 24 inches, with drifts up to eleven feet high in western Virginia. (David Ludlum)

1987 - Gale force winds ushered arctic air into the north central U.S. Some places were 50 degrees colder than the previous day. Northeast winds, gusting to 60 mph, produced 8 to 15 foot waves on Lake Michigan causing more than a million dollars damage along the southeastern shoreline of Wisconsin. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

 

1988 - A cold front brought high winds to the southwestern U.S. Winds in the Las Vegas Valley of Nevada gusted to 70 mph, and one person was injured by a falling tree. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Twenty-two cities in the southwestern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date. In New Mexico, afternoon highs of 72 at Los Alamos, 76 at Ruidoso, and 79 at Quemado, were records for March. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Evening thunderstorms produced severe weather in West Texas. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 71 mph at Lubbock, and golf ball size hail was reported at several other locations. Strong thunderstorm winds injured two persons north of the town of Canyon. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

2013: A supercell over eastern Oahu in Hawaii produced 4.25" hail NW of Kailua, the largest hailstone ever recorded in Hawaii. The storm also spawned a tornadic waterspout that came ashore and caused EF-0 damage. 

Highs:

EWR: 82 (2016)
NYC: 77 (2016)
LGA: 75 (2016)
JFK: 67 (1973)


Lows;

EWR: 10 (1996)
NYC: 11 (1996)
LGA: 14 (1996)
JFK: 13 (1996)

 

wow 2016 warmth and 1996 cold even this late

[LibertyBell]

18 hours ago, lee59 said:

Jfk has been milder than nearby stations. This month they are 3.7 above normal compared to Islip at 1.5 and Farmingdale at .6. Last month JFK averaged 37.2 and Islip and Farmingdale were some 3 degrees cooler.

I think JFK will be hitting 100 multiple times this summer :-)

 

[LibertyBell]

18 hours ago, lee59 said:

From 1920-1960 the average yearly precipitation at Central Park was 42 inches. From 2000 to the present it is 51 inches, quite a difference.

Exactly!  41-42 inches is our true normal, we need to chop down the excess vegetation that resulted from this anomalous 51 inch average-- or nature will do it for us.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

I just saw a flock of geese flying north.

It's over

I just saw the same thing lol

[LibertyBell]

4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Which how cold the ocean is this year to our east like 2019 and 2015, JFK may not reach 70° until mid to late April.

First/Last Summary for JFK INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, NY
Each section contains date and year of occurrence, value on that date.
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

2024	03-15 (2024)	72	11-18 (2024)	70	247
2023	04-06 (2023)	74	10-28 (2023)	81	204
2022	04-12 (2022)	72	11-12 (2022)	72	213
2021	03-12 (2021)	70	10-25 (2021)	73	226
2020	03-13 (2020)	71	11-09 (2020)	74	240
2019	04-19 (2019)	70	10-14 (2019)	70	177
2018	04-13 (2018)	70	10-12 (2018)	70	181
2017	04-12 (2017)	73	11-03 (2017)	73	204
2016	03-10 (2016)	70	11-03 (2016)	73	237
2015	04-15 (2015)	72	12-13 (2015)	70	24

Do you have the longest time periods between 70 degree readings Chris? I think the last time we were 70 or higher was early November, when it was in the low 80s.

 

 

[Brian5671]

Was interesting driving around this AM-some of the lower spots were 30 while just a mile later when the road rose a bit it was 40

[snowman19]

1 hour ago, Sundog said:

I just saw a flock of geese flying north.

It's over

It’s been over since 2/20

[Brian5671]

14 minutes ago, snowman19 said:

It’s been over since 2/20

Gets shorter every year

[SACRUS]

 

47 / 26.  Warm today and Tuesday - warmest since Nov 18th for most.   Wetter by the weekend into Saint Patrick's day.  Remaining overall warmer than normal with next peak warmth around Sunday but clouds and showers may limit max temps.

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

 

EWR: 81 (2016)
NYC: 79 (2016)
LGA: 78 (2016)
JFK: 71 (2006)
 

 

 

Lows:

EWR: 10 (1984)
NYC: 12 (1929)
LGA: 12 (1984)
JFK: 12 (1984)

 

Historical: 

 

1884: John Park Finley issued the first experimental tornado prediction. Finley studied the atmospheric parameters that were present during previous tornadoes. Many of these same criteria are still used by operational forecasters today. But the use of tornado forecasts would be banned just a few years later and remain forbidden until 1952. 

1912 - The barometric pressure reached 29.26 inches at Los Angeles, CA, and 29.46 inches at San Diego CA, setting all-time records for those two locations. (David Ludlum)

1922 - Dodge City, KS, reported a record 24 hour total of 17.5 inches of snow. (The Weather Channel)

 

1986: Severe thunderstorms and tornadoes hit Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio. A total of 19 tornadoes occurred. Three of the tornadoes in Indiana reached F3 intensity. A densely populated subdivision of Southeast Lexington, Kentucky, was heavily damaged by a tornado. Twenty people were injured, and 900 homes were destroyed or demolished. A very strong thunderstorm downburst hit the Cincinnati area. At the Greater Cincinnati Airport, windows were blown out of the control tower, injuring the six controllers on duty. At Newport, Kentucky, 120 houses were destroyed by winds estimated from 100 to 140 mph. 

1987 - Strong northwesterly winds ushered arctic air into the eastern U.S. Gales lashed the middle and northern Atlantic coast. Winds gusted to 50 mph at Manteo NC and Cape Hatteras NC. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - A winter storm produced snow and high winds in the Central Rocky Mountain Region. Snowfall totals in Utah ranged up to 42 inches at Alta, with 36 inches reported at the Brian Head Ski Resort in 24 hours. Winds gusted to 72 mph at La Junta CO and Artesia NM. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Thirty-four cities in the central and southwestern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date. The high of 85 degrees at Hanksville UT was a record for March, and Pueblo CO equalled their March record of 86 degrees. Hill City KS warmed from a morning low of 30 degrees to an afternoon high of 89 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Thunderstorms developing along a warm front produced severe weather from southeast Iowa to central Indiana and north central Kentucky. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 65 mph at Fort Knox KY, and hail two inches in diameter west of Lebanon IN. Evening thunderstorms over central Oklahoma deluged Guthrie with 4.5 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2010 - As many as four people are injured, one is killed and homes were damaged in Center Hill and Pearson, AR, by an EF2 tornado.

 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

 

EWR: 81 (2016)
NYC: 79 (2016)
LGA: 78 (2016)
JFK: 71 (2006)
 

 

 

Lows:

EWR: 10 (1984)
NYC: 12 (1929)
LGA: 12 (1984)
JFK: 12 (1984)

 

Historical: 

 

1884: John Park Finley issued the first experimental tornado prediction. Finley studied the atmospheric parameters that were present during previous tornadoes. Many of these same criteria are still used by operational forecasters today. But the use of tornado forecasts would be banned just a few years later and remain forbidden until 1952. 

1912 - The barometric pressure reached 29.26 inches at Los Angeles, CA, and 29.46 inches at San Diego CA, setting all-time records for those two locations. (David Ludlum)

1922 - Dodge City, KS, reported a record 24 hour total of 17.5 inches of snow. (The Weather Channel)

 

1986: Severe thunderstorms and tornadoes hit Indiana, Kentucky, and Ohio. A total of 19 tornadoes occurred. Three of the tornadoes in Indiana reached F3 intensity. A densely populated subdivision of Southeast Lexington, Kentucky, was heavily damaged by a tornado. Twenty people were injured, and 900 homes were destroyed or demolished. A very strong thunderstorm downburst hit the Cincinnati area. At the Greater Cincinnati Airport, windows were blown out of the control tower, injuring the six controllers on duty. At Newport, Kentucky, 120 houses were destroyed by winds estimated from 100 to 140 mph. 

1987 - Strong northwesterly winds ushered arctic air into the eastern U.S. Gales lashed the middle and northern Atlantic coast. Winds gusted to 50 mph at Manteo NC and Cape Hatteras NC. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - A winter storm produced snow and high winds in the Central Rocky Mountain Region. Snowfall totals in Utah ranged up to 42 inches at Alta, with 36 inches reported at the Brian Head Ski Resort in 24 hours. Winds gusted to 72 mph at La Junta CO and Artesia NM. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Thirty-four cities in the central and southwestern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date. The high of 85 degrees at Hanksville UT was a record for March, and Pueblo CO equalled their March record of 86 degrees. Hill City KS warmed from a morning low of 30 degrees to an afternoon high of 89 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Thunderstorms developing along a warm front produced severe weather from southeast Iowa to central Indiana and north central Kentucky. Thunderstorms produced wind gusts to 65 mph at Fort Knox KY, and hail two inches in diameter west of Lebanon IN. Evening thunderstorms over central Oklahoma deluged Guthrie with 4.5 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

2010 - As many as four people are injured, one is killed and homes were damaged in Center Hill and Pearson, AR, by an EF2 tornado.

 

Records:

Highs:

 

EWR: 81 (2016)
NYC: 79 (2016)
LGA: 78 (2016)
JFK: 71 (2006)
 

 

 

Lows:

EWR: 10 (1984)
NYC: 12 (1929)
LGA: 12 (1984)
JFK: 12 (1984)

 

The early season heat in 2016 continued.....

That arctic shot in 1984 must have been right after the March 1984 snowstorm!

[Stormlover74]

50 already. Should make it to 65

[forkyfork]

30 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

50 already. Should make it to 65

i wonder if yesterday was the metro's last freeze

[donsutherland1]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Hopefully well after the total lunar eclipse, Don

The lunar eclipse will occur during the night of March 13th. The rain won't arrive until Sunday. Cloud cover could still be an issue in parts of the region.

[LibertyBell]

7 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

i wonder if yesterday was the metro's last freeze

Yes, thats what I think too.

[Sundog]

2 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

Exactly!  41-42 inches is our true normal, we need to chop down the excess vegetation that resulted from this anomalous 51 inch average-- or nature will do it for us.

 

I think 45 to 55 inches IS our new normal. Warmer world  = more atmospheric moisture = more rain for this part of the world, aka eastern US. 

[Sundog]

28 minutes ago, forkyfork said:

i wonder if yesterday was the metro's last freeze

It might flirt with freezing again, but it's a good chance yesterday was it. 

[jm1220]

Probably have a few more freezes at least where I am but for southern Nassau County and the city they might be done.  Crocuses blossoming here. 

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, Sundog said:

 

I think 45 to 55 inches IS our new normal. Warmer world  = more atmospheric moisture = more rain for this part of the world, aka eastern US. 

with climate change we'll likely have longer droughts and longer wet periods.  More atmospheric moisture depends on onshore flow to deliver rainfall for specific areas and we have had westerly flow for a few months now which might indicate we're starting a long period of drier weather, beginning with our driest month on record (0 rainfall here last October.)  So it could be that we'll just get more extremes with rain just like we've seen with snowfall.

 

[Brian5671]

34 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Probably have a few more freezes at least where I am but for southern Nassau County and the city they might be done.  Crocuses blossoming here. 

yeah burbs probably have a risk of freeze into early April

[SACRUS]

 

Up to 61 the  (November 18th last 70 degree reading in site) 

[Brian5671]

63 here

[ag3]

Up to 65 here!

Glorious day!

[MANDA]

37 minutes ago, ag3 said:

Up to 65 here!

Glorious day!

Up to 63 here.  Really nice out.  The wind of the last few days is gone and the sun is warm.

Not sure why anyone would be looking for cold and snow at this point.  Let's move on.

Of course I would never be opposed to having an April 82 type event.  Anything less forget it. 

[winterwx21]

Beautiful day! It's 67 here right now. We should hit 70 tomorrow. After that the east winds cool us off, unfortunately.