Typhoon Tip Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 So a 2 or 3 hour burst of wet snow around the back side of the rapid ANA low deepening as it exists on Friday... mainly a car-top and middle lawn whitener. 33 ..34 F parachuting. Relative to season that's an impressive cold load into S-SE Canada soon after, which may or may not set the stage for a more interesting amplitude circa 25th. Post equinox but ... in 2004 ( maybe it was 2005) I parked my car 1:20 pm in front of single story mall plaza on an errand, and snow was blowing off the flat roof at that time of day, somewhere during the first week of April. It's hard to blow snow at apex solar after April 1, but there I was ... eating spring shit. To mention 1982, 1984, 1987, 1997...etc etc. It's lower confidence for a specific event within, but the period between the 22nd and 30the is set up for a colder complexion at mid and N latitudes of the continent given the unanimously agreed upon teleconnector correlations for the time period - it's been consistent in that regards as well. Still ... am a little leery due to a history of attenuating cold scenarios in models despite leading tele's and extended looks once getting into middle terms. Less has proven the money making gamble. In the nearer terms ... enjoy tomorrow, which will likely go above machine numbers by a little given 850's of +4 or 5C still and the backside air mass being more Pac origin and coming d-slope under full-ish sun. Wed/Thurs look like days that could have been milder, but will probably see a pretty strong west penetrating cold llv flow by mid day, both days, given that high is retreating E and not S of the region. So western NE will be warmer on those two days than eastern zones in that synoptic layout. Logan is 52 and Springfield MA is 67 and ALB is 72 spit ball numbers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 37 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: ..100% correct!!...many people have left the snow plowing business because of the lack of revenue the past several winters. Yes, the plowe operators have been hurting, but his post was about the ski resports....I don't think that has been as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Yes, the plowe operators have been hurting, but his post was about the ski resports....I don't think that has been as bad. but he mentioned seasonal business so I added that snow plow operators have also lost revenue the last several winters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: ..well regarding the snowpack, what has he been wrong about? He was right about snowpack...the ski resorts have had it, which combined with consistent if not impressive cold, has made for a respectable ski season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, Great Snow 1717 said: but he mentioned seasonal business so I added that snow plow operators have also lost revenue the last several winters. I agree with that addendum...especially across SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 42 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: ..100% correct!!...many people have left the snow plowing business because of the lack of revenue the past several winters. Opportunities 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: He was right about snowpack...the ski resorts have had it, which combined with consistent if not impressive cold, has made for a respectable ski season. People who ski know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 38 minutes ago, dendrite said: 47° RA 1.54” We floodin Pack wipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Pack wipe? Speaking of wipe, TP definitely a little clingy to bum yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 9 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Pack wipe? Pack is whack(ed) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1.89 rain. Looks like we haven’t seen the last snow 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: 1.89 rain. Looks like we haven’t seen the last snow I think it will be nuisance for us if anything, but hopefully I'm wrong. If we are going to be in a garbage spring pattern, then it might as well snow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmtnwx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 This ski season has been just fine for just about all the east. It’s been plenty cold with some events but great weather for snowmaking. Add in the lack of warm cutters and it’s been an excellent few months. Trust me, I know, I ski a lot and follow the weather very closely at the New England resorts. I also know people who work in the industry there and this has been a very respectable season. The one thing that has hurt the ski resorts in recent years is that the holiday weeks have seemed to coincide with some of the worst weather. Christmas week hasn’t been good really for a number of years and that hurts the ski vibe some. The other thing as somebody pointed out is the youth sports season. Spring sports seem to start earlier and earlier, and kids are focusing on training and indoor sports sessions more and more. These “high-level” travel leagues are demanding more and more of kids. Even the kids who aren’t very good are playing in demanding travel leagues at a lower level versus rec sports. Add in the parents that have FOMO and it’s taken a lot of families out of the ski game for fear of missing that weekend training session I myself missed a bunch of good ski weekends in the last number of years because daughter had a club soccer tournament or a training session and we can’t miss that lol. however, I will say this. You frequently hear a lot of talk about skiing being dead, trust me, it’s alive and well. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 ASH 53F/ 1.44", no brush fires today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 Just now, greenmtnwx said: This ski season has been just fine for just about all the east. It’s been plenty cold with some events but great weather for snowmaking. Add in the lack of warm cutters and it’s been an excellent few months. Trust me, I know, I ski a lot and follow the weather very closely at the New England resorts. I also know people who work in the industry there and this has been a very respectable season. The one thing that has hurt the ski resorts in recent years is that the holiday weeks have seemed to coincide with some of the worst weather. Christmas week hasn’t been good really for a number of years and that hurts the ski vibe some. The other thing as somebody pointed out is the youth sports season. Spring sports seem to start earlier and earlier, and kids are focusing on training and indoor sports sessions more and more. These “high-level” travel leagues are demanding more and more of kids. Even the kids who aren’t very good are playing in demanding travel leagues at a lower level versus rec sports. Add in the parents that have FOMO and it’s taken a lot of families out of the ski game for fear of missing that weekend training session I myself missed a bunch of good ski weekends in the last number of years because daughter had a club soccer tournament or a training session and we can’t miss that lol. however, I will say this. You frequently hear a lot of talk about skiing being dead, trust me, it’s alive and well. Yes, true.....agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, greenmtnwx said: This ski season has been just fine for just about all the east. It’s been plenty cold with some events but great weather for snowmaking. Add in the lack of warm cutters and it’s been an excellent few months. Trust me, I know, I ski a lot and follow the weather very closely at the New England resorts. I also know people who work in the industry there and this has been a very respectable season. The one thing that has hurt the ski resorts in recent years is that the holiday weeks have seemed to coincide with some of the worst weather. Christmas week hasn’t been good really for a number of years and that hurts the ski vibe some. The other thing as somebody pointed out is the youth sports season. Spring sports seem to start earlier and earlier, and kids are focusing on training and indoor sports sessions more and more. These “high-level” travel leagues are demanding more and more of kids. Even the kids who aren’t very good are playing in demanding travel leagues at a lower level versus rec sports. Add in the parents that have FOMO and it’s taken a lot of families out of the ski game for fear of missing that weekend training session I myself missed a bunch of good ski weekends in the last number of years because daughter had a club soccer tournament or a training session and we can’t miss that lol. however, I will say this. You frequently hear a lot of talk about skiing being dead, trust me, it’s alive and well. 100% correct!!!!!!!.....youth sports has become a multi-billion dollar a year business... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 This late March pattern looks to follow the theme of the winter, which is unimpressive cold, albeit consistent. That won't cut it for most of SNE as we near April. Very similar to late March 2000. Should protract the season for the larger NNE resorts, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, greenmtnwx said: This ski season has been just fine for just about all the east. It’s been plenty cold with some events but great weather for snowmaking. Add in the lack of warm cutters and it’s been an excellent few months. Trust me, I know, I ski a lot and follow the weather very closely at the New England resorts. I also know people who work in the industry there and this has been a very respectable season. The one thing that has hurt the ski resorts in recent years is that the holiday weeks have seemed to coincide with some of the worst weather. Christmas week hasn’t been good really for a number of years and that hurts the ski vibe some. The other thing as somebody pointed out is the youth sports season. Spring sports seem to start earlier and earlier, and kids are focusing on training and indoor sports sessions more and more. These “high-level” travel leagues are demanding more and more of kids. Even the kids who aren’t very good are playing in demanding travel leagues at a lower level versus rec sports. Add in the parents that have FOMO and it’s taken a lot of families out of the ski game for fear of missing that weekend training session I myself missed a bunch of good ski weekends in the last number of years because daughter had a club soccer tournament or a training session and we can’t miss that lol. however, I will say this. You frequently hear a lot of talk about skiing being dead, trust me, it’s alive and well. Cost is somewhat prohibitive however. I know some folks (more casual skiers who tend to rent and not buy season passes) who have said they either gave it up or just go once or twice now. Also agree on the youth sports aspect-both of my sons play and by mid March practices are in full swing. Alot of that goes back to the earlier DST switch-can have practices later in the day etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I think it will be nuisance for us if anything, but hopefully I'm wrong. If we are going to be in a garbage spring pattern, then it might as well snow. Friday is interesting with bombing LP Cape Cod bay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just now, Brian5671 said: Cost is somewhat prohibitive however. I know some folks (more casual skiers who tend to rent and not buy season passes) who have said they either gave it up or just go once or twice now. Ski business is just fine. Another record year of turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Great Snow 1717 said: ..well regarding the snowpack, what has he been wrong about? The duration of snow cover in SNE/CNE? Still 8" pack this morning though it's hurting. Last year on 3/17 we were down to patches. Who knew that 23-24 would have that 3-storm 40"+ Hail Mary after the equinox? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Ski business is just fine. Another record year of turnout. Is that true nationally or locally in New England? I've always heard numbers have slowly declined over the years... Despite advancements like snowmaking technology and efforts to adapt to unpredictable weather conditions, the ski industry is experiencing a gradual decrease in visitors since 2004, leading to the closure of over 45 ski resorts in the past two decades. https://myskilessons.com/popularity-of-skiing/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: Is that true nationally or locally in New England? I've always heard numbers have declined over the years... Despite advancements like snowmaking technology and efforts to adapt to unpredictable weather conditions, the ski industry is experiencing a gradual decrease in visitors since 2004, leading to the closure of over 45 ski resorts in the past two decades. U.S. Ski Industry Lost $5 Billion Over 20 Years From Global Warming, Study Finds - EcoWatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 5 minutes ago, tamarack said: The duration of snow cover in SNE/CNE? Still 8" pack this morning though it's hurting. Last year on 3/17 we were down to patches. Who knew that 23-24 would have that 3-storm 40"+ Hail Mary after the equinox? The snowpack in my area went pretty quickly once March arrived.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Is that true nationally or locally in New England? I've always heard numbers have slowly declined over the years... Despite advancements like snowmaking technology and efforts to adapt to unpredictable weather conditions, the ski industry is experiencing a gradual decrease in visitors since 2004, leading to the closure of over 45 ski resorts in the past two decades. https://myskilessons.com/popularity-of-skiing/ 3 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: U.S. Ski Industry Lost $5 Billion Over 20 Years From Global Warming, Study Finds - EcoWatch No way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George001 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 13 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Friday is interesting with bombing LP Cape Cod bay Looks like a classic early spring elevation event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: No way Rocky Mountains show the biggest gains-everywhere else is flat at best-I do a trip out there every year-breck, vail, keystone-incredible but very expensive with housing, pass food transportation but I enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Rocky Mountains show the biggest gains-everywhere else is flat at best-I do a trip out there every year-breck, vail, keystone-incredible but very expensive with housing, pass food transportation but I enjoy it. Last 3 years are 2nd 1 st 5th in visits. The numbers don't lie. Number of ski areas open is consistent . 24/25 continues top 5 per reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just now, Ginx snewx said: Last 3 years are 2nd 1 st 5th in visits. The numbers don't lie. Number of ski areas open is consistent . 24/25 continues top 5 per reports agreed but like i said the gains are in the Rockies-New England is flat and I'd counter southern NE smaller areas like Mohawk in CT can't be doing that well the last 10 yrs given the overall warmth. I'd be curious to see how they did this year with the cold Jan/Feb. I went March 1st with my son, but conditions rapidly deteriorated after that weekend with the cutters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Friday looks like mtns and one of those wildcat specials. Doesn’t look like much anywhere else. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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