TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 29 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Cost is somewhat prohibitive however. I know some folks (more casual skiers who tend to rent and not buy season passes) who have said they either gave it up or just go once or twice now. Also agree on the youth sports aspect-both of my sons play and by mid March practices are in full swing. Alot of that goes back to the earlier DST switch-can have practices later in the day etc. Cousin and her two kids and husband went a few weeks ago somewhere in VT, can’t remember the mountain, but it was $700 all in for tickets and rentals for 1 day for 4 people (only the 2 kids rented skis). It has absolutely become cost prohibitive and I’d guess we are inching towards a tipping point. I’m skeptical of the turnout numbers allegedly being good. Do they count turnout like they count inches of snow at Jay? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Cousin and her two kids and husband went a few weeks ago somewhere in VT, can’t remember the mountain, but it was $700 all in for tickets and rentals for 1 day for 4 people (only the 2 kids rented skis). It has absolutely become cost prohibitive and I’d guess we are inching towards a tipping point. I’m skeptical of the turnout numbers allegedly being good. Do they count turnout like they count inches of snow at Jay? I go out west with my dad he still skis at 75-but to take my family out there...you'd be looking at $7500 even if you went with basic housing-not sure how most afford that. No one pays it anymore but the day pass at Breck is $240 lol. Makes everyone buy the Epic pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 21 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Friday looks like mtns and one of those wildcat specials. Doesn’t look like much anywhere else. 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: 100%. Will be another reminder of how annoying this winter has been. It's too bad because it's been a good month temp wise. Now we get another dick kick by Mother Nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 28 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Friday looks like mtns and one of those wildcat specials. Doesn’t look like much anywhere else. Yeah it looks Assey .. garbage. Pattern doesn’t look cold next few weeks . Looks normal to AN. Where are they getting cold pattern from? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 21 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: Cousin and her two kids and husband went a few weeks ago somewhere in VT, can’t remember the mountain, but it was $700 all in for tickets and rentals for 1 day for 4 people (only the 2 kids rented skis). It has absolutely become cost prohibitive and I’d guess we are inching towards a tipping point. I’m skeptical of the turnout numbers allegedly being good. Do they count turnout like they count inches of snow at Jay? I agree....same thing happens in pro sports when teams pad their attendance figures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just now, Damage In Tolland said: Yeah it looks Assey .. garbage. Pattern doesn’t look cold next few weeks . Looks normal to AN. Where are they getting cold pattern from? Looks like we definitely are going to have some ass stretches. Not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: I agree....same thing happens in pro sports when teams pad their attendance figures... "paid attendance" vs actual fannies in seats--a vastly different number sometimes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Looks like we definitely are going to have some ass stretches. Not a fan. springtime next to a vast 45 degree ocean is always a treat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Hmm... not sure how this doesn't qualitatively indicate colder than normal... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Looks like we definitely are going to have some ass stretches. Not a fan. Seems like it’ll end up slightly AN . We are done with cold, snow, freezes etc 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: "paid attendance" vs actual fannies in seats--a vastly different number sometimes! ...it sure is...Empty Seats Galore does a great job of exposing the inflated attendance figures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowcrazed71 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Seems like it’ll end up slightly AN . We are done with cold, snow, freezes etc Hmmm... Not sure you are correct ( I mean, I'm not calling for a snowy cold pattern per se )... But the Outlook towards the last part of this month looks colder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said: No way Depressing stats for the east. All of the big gains out west. Basically flat for 40 years in the east. 1983, there was 100 million less people in the US...let that sink in.. There's some bias for booming industry here. "it's packed" Yea it is, but because there's also a lot less competition (supply). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Depressing stats for the east. All of the big gains out west. Basically flat for 40 years in the east. There's some bias for booming industry here. "it's packed" Yea it is, but because there's also a lot less competition (supply). I wonder why the west is gaining-what's different out there other than better conditions/more terrain but that's always been the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, Snowcrazed71 said: Hmmm... Not sure you are correct ( I mean, I'm not calling for a snowy cold pattern per se )... But the Outlook towards the last part of this month looks colder. the problem is that models have been too cold all winter in the LR....ends up being muted/modified as we get closer in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 36 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Looks like we definitely are going to have some ass stretches. Not a fan. Yeah, opening day at Fenway weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 The teleconnections aren't flagging cold. +AO, and even the NAO tendency is to a positive phase phase state over next 7 days. GEFS also looks warm.... For 95% of us, start planning for plants and seeding; not your next prospect of accumulating snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 My uncle is in Utah right now. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, jbenedet said: The teleconnections aren't flagging cold. +AO, and even the NAO tendency is to a positive phase phase state over next 7 days. GEFS also looks warm.... For 95% of us, start planning for plants, not your next prospect of accumulating snow. -EPO/+PNA interval between the 22nd and 28th most certainly does ... Not a matter of disagreement - that is clad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: -EPO/+PNA interval between the 22nd and 28th most certainly does ... Not a matter of disagreement - that is clad Kind of an irony that a "bad pacific pattern" can actually yield N to BN temperatures in our spring, with the pacific reaching its minimum SST's at this time, and our daily temp averages exceeding this by April. This is all thanks to the ISR which leads the ocean by a few months. In Dec, Jan, Feb a bad pacific is a torch, but that affect disappears by late march. I'm more focused on the NAO/AO phases for that reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Any cold or below-average periods will likely be brief and the result of strong fronts moving through as opposed to any significant changes in the pattern. There will be some crap days for sure but the overall but as long as we continue this theme of rapidly deepening lows which eject into the central Plains and lift northeast, the warmth will outweigh the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 14 minutes ago, jbenedet said: The teleconnections aren't flagging cold. +AO, and even the NAO tendency is to a positive phase phase state over next 7 days. GEFS also looks warm.... For 95% of us, start planning for plants and seeding; not your next prospect of accumulating snow. It flips next week, but I agree it doesn't look very cold...seasonably cold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Mud season has claimed me as a victim. The thawing of the ground, the heavy rain, and a super heavy oil delivery truck lead to a driveway loss at my house this morning 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Kind of an irony that a "bad pacific pattern" can actually yield N to BN temperatures in our spring, with the pacific reaching its minimum SST's at this time, and our daily temp averages exceeding this by April. This is all thanks to the ISR which leads the ocean by a few months. In Dec, Jan, Feb a bad pacific is a torch, but that affect disappears by late march. I'm more focused on the NAO/AO phases for that reason... Last week of the month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just now, 40/70 Benchmark said: Last week of the month... Holy error bars.... Really lose skill after 7 days on this. Wouldn't be using this as a predictor for the end of the month. Not enough skill. Best to just monitor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Mud season has claimed me as a victim. The thawing of the ground, the heavy rain, and a super heavy oil delivery truck lead to a driveway loss at my house this morning Whoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 13 minutes ago, weatherwiz said: Any cold or below-average periods will likely be brief and the result of strong fronts moving through as opposed to any significant changes in the pattern. There will be some crap days for sure but the overall but as long as we continue this theme of rapidly deepening lows which eject into the central Plains and lift northeast, the warmth will outweigh the cold. yeah it's just cold air behind cutters for a day or so and then back to AN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Mud season has claimed me as a victim. The thawing of the ground, the heavy rain, and a super heavy oil delivery truck lead to a driveway loss at my house this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Holy error bars.... Really lose skill after 7 days on this. Wouldn't be using this as a predictor for the end of the month. Not enough skill. Best to just monitor... Obviously there is higher error at longer leads, but its forecast to pretty negative and it is likely it will at least be somewhat negative given the major disruption to the PV that is ensuing. Again, do I think we see significant snow in SNE....no....but it won't be mild, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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