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March DISCO/OBS: Please End It


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14 minutes ago, radarman said:

Folks round here largely prefer this new climate regime and if anything tend to move south rather than north.  Vanuatu might be screwed but a series of late 1970s winters would have people begging for the current status quo back.  Is it taboo to acknowledge that?  

If the 70s returned I’d be the first one complaining. 

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1 hour ago, dendrite said:

All of this is because Steve got in the AI and gave himself 3 weenies

Huh? Hey this makes for good theater.  When winter ends and spring begins sucks so bad.  It is nice trolling hard enough to make Forky stick his head out.

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1 hour ago, rcostell said:

I see the problem as OUR earth is warming to the point of irrefutable atmospheric change that is now altering global processes and harming ecosystems with no cohesive plan to stop...  while we argue about politics. 

The sky is not falling chicken little.  We adapt as humans have.  The earth doesn't give a rats ass about us the pimple.  

 

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35 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Next winter when sne gets AN snow with a couple big events, that will be our proof to all of you GW elitist humpers that it’s a hoax. 
 

And if you stop eating eggs, you’ll gain girth between your legs. Oh, and prices will come down as well. A win-win.

My eggs are very cheap, some feed some water, 2 to 3 dozen a week.

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5 minutes ago, Cyclone-68 said:

Any interest in following the severe threat in the south tomorrow Wiz? Can you recommend any links by chance?

It's going to be an overnight event mostly...Saturday will be during the day and I'll be following along. 

I mostly use spc mesoanalysis https://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/

and watch satellite and use Radarscope/Gr lvl 2. I like the gr lvl 2 to get some 3D views of the storm structure and see how high debris is being lofted. 

But I don't really follow any streams or anything. 

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I am so proud of how far our country has come environmentally since I was a kid yet there is much to be done. The youth here haven't experienced the weeks of smog, the stench of polluted rivers, the color of streams being whatever die was being used. We have a lot to be proud of in innovation as well.  Americans lead the world in environment solution innovation.  Much to done but the sky ain't falling chicken 

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5 minutes ago, radarman said:

If AC were to get prohibitively expensive you'd see real action on climate.  Until then it's easily dealt with.  Who's gonna give up their flight to Europe when they can just install a week earlier?

It's all relative isn't it.

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13 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

I am so proud of how far our country has come environmentally since I was a kid yet there is much to be done. The youth here haven't experienced the weeks of smog, the stench of polluted rivers, the color of streams being whatever die was being used. We have a lot to be proud of in innovation as well.  Americans lead the world in environment solution innovation.  Much to done but the sky ain't falling chicken 

Very true Steve. Agree. 

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35 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Huh? Hey this makes for good theater.  When winter ends and spring begins sucks so bad.  It is nice trolling hard enough to make Forky stick his head out.

you're not trolling you genuinely don't accept that co2 warms the planet

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25 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

The sky is not falling chicken little.  We adapt as humans have.  The earth doesn't give a rats ass about us the pimple.  

 

I respect and admire this forum (and your experience) and agree with your opinion.  Hate to see you all not on same page with the science.    "Chicken Little"? You can kiss my Irish ass. 

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17 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

I am so proud of how far our country has come environmentally since I was a kid yet there is much to be done. The youth here haven't experienced the weeks of smog, the stench of polluted rivers, the color of streams being whatever die was being used. We have a lot to be proud of in innovation as well.  Americans lead the world in environment solution innovation.  Much to done but the sky ain't falling chicken 

The human pop has gone from 2B to 8B in your lifetime. Even if we’re learning from our mistakes we’re becoming more of a strain on this planet. 

Buf it would be nice if we could debate issues on a case by case basis without them immediately getting split across political party lines. 

This song will probably resonate with every generation. 

 

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1 minute ago, dendrite said:

The human pop has gone from 2B to 8B in your lifetime. Even if we’re learning from our mistakes we’re becoming more of a strain on this planet. 

Buf it would be nice if we could debate issues on a case by case basis without them immediately getting split across political party lines. 

This song will probably resonate with every generation. 

 

The reason its politics is because of the grift not the science. 20 billion reasons why uncovered this week. 

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13 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

The reason its politics is because of the grift not the science. 20 billion reasons why uncovered this week. 

I do not believe this.  If it was just about the money, folks would accept the science.  People don’t accept the science.

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4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I do not believe this.  If it was just about the money, folks would accept the science.  People don’t accept the science.

we all know how the ceo of exxon lives modestly and is only in it to give electricity to the people <3

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9 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I do not believe this.  If it was just about the money, folks would accept the science.  People don’t accept the science.

Some folks don't- agree with you.  Even in this forum, science based that its' nature is- there are degrees of non-acceptance- lots of distractions.   Its the decison makers or disrupters that really count in the long run. 

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29 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

The reason its politics is because of the grift not the science. 20 billion reasons why uncovered this week. 

Didn’t you work at Mashantucket Museum? How many CT tax dollars trickled through there ?

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5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

If the +PNA fails to materialize between the 20th and 25th I'd be happier with that outlook.  

It's going to be a bit dicey through the week if it does, however.   Like I was saying earlier, that is a window for some sort or the other in colder returns. 

Not 100% sold ...    However, I am also not making it up about the +PNA.   The correlation doesn't take a backseat because it's March and moods and emotive modes have switched gears - it is what it is.

 

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1 hour ago, forkyfork said:

co2 is a pollutant

Meaning that the only way humans can stop polluting is to die, preferably near the south pole so our rotting corpses don't return that CO2 into the air.  :P

As posted above, we are stewards of the planet, not the owners.  "Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful."

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1 hour ago, Ginx snewx said:

I am so proud of how far our country has come environmentally since I was a kid yet there is much to be done. The youth here haven't experienced the weeks of smog, the stench of polluted rivers, the color of streams being whatever die was being used. We have a lot to be proud of in innovation as well.  Americans lead the world in environment solution innovation.  Much to done but the sky ain't falling chicken 

True…so why are we rolling it back now?

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18 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

True…so why are we rolling it back now?

Exactly. Old enough to remember what our rivers used to look like. The Charles and the Merrimack were cesspools. You can catch a striper in Watertown now. I'm sure the Connecticut River wasn't much better. 

Provisions in the clean water act were rolled back yesterday. Future generations will be left with much the same thing. Start cleaning it again I guess...

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1 hour ago, powderfreak said:

I do not believe this.  If it was just about the money, folks would accept the science.  People don’t accept the science.

I have personally witnessed biased, dishonest research and researchers influencing and/or altering results in both private sector and public settings at the the state and federal level so my perspective takes that heavily into consideration.  

At one time it was fervently believed that:  the sun revolved around the earth, the earth was flat, bloodletting cured illness, lobotomies cured psychological disorders, eggs are bad for you, no, eggs are good for you, no eggs raise cholesterol, no, eggs have no effect on cholesterol, etc, etc, etc, the earth is entering another ice age, no the earth is warming, etc, etc, etc.

Presumably state-of-the-art science and research to some extent has been behind each one of those beliefs or understandings.  Today, us humans believe we're at the very pinnacle of our understanding of ourselves and our world, more knowledge than any civilization ever.  Current science and research is state-of-the-art.  Just like it has been throughout time immemorial.  

Are our tools, methods, devices, understanding more precise than years past?  We sure think so.  Can that change in the future?  If the past is any guide, absolutely.  

I see "science" as something very specific - a simple following of the scientific method.  A hard-line approach ensuring zero bias, reliable, concise data, etc.  When those essential components of science are toyed with, it ruins the "science".  Changing definitions, ignoring facts, inserting bias, altering data - these are all things that have become very evident to be occurring.  Even as we're at the pinnacle of our understanding.  

So I concur, it is difficult to faithfully accept all science these days.  Maybe it has always been that way...?

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27 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Exactly. Old enough to remember what our rivers used to look like. The Charles and the Merrimack were cesspools. You can catch a striper in Watertown now. I'm sure the Connecticut River wasn't much better. 

Provisions in the clean water act were rolled back yesterday. Future generations will be left with much the same thing. Start cleaning it again I guess...

Is that when America was great? I’m still struggling to find out exactly what period of time we were that great for everyone to which we are rolling back policies for. 

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