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FOLKS Feb 19-20 Debacle


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1 minute ago, SnowenOutThere said:

All I’m asking for is a dead cat bounce to a 2-4 snow to get me out of school 

a 50 mile shift is not much at this range and while that is certainly possible even in this case, it’s doubtful given the strong trends the opposite way. 

 

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1 minute ago, Terpeast said:

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NAM caved. It may still show 3-6” here but with the trend that amount will dwindle in the next several runs. 

AmWx: What are we holding onto, PSU?

PSU: That there’s some north trends left in this world, Mr. AmWx… and it’s worth fighting for.”

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The final result wasn’t what we wanted to see obviously, especially if you are looking for a more MECS look. However, this actually shows how delicate this still is at something worthwhile. We really need the disturbance to our northeast to play nice with the TPV over the Upper Midwest. Even without it, we still managed a salvageable storm. I still like this setup for areas within the Hampton Roads up through the Lower Eastern Shore. This one is starting to look pretty solid for those parts. If I was to chase, I’d setup somewhere near Hampton Roads up to OCMD  

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Just now, Terpeast said:

a 50 mile shift is not much at this range and while that is certainly possible even in this case, it’s doubtful given the strong trends the opposite way. 

 

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a storm where we just have 6 runs in a row where things go badly for us. Since I’ve only been tracking stuff since 2021 I think this definitely goes down as the worst storm I’ve tracked 

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Just now, SnowenOutThere said:

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a storm where we just have 6 runs in a row where things go badly for us. Since I’ve only been tracking stuff since 2021 I think this definitely goes down as the worst storm I’ve tracked 

Hahaha we’ve done this a lot of times lol.  Although I will say this year it feels like the EPS has busted pretty hard now twice.  Once with the storm for last week where it was showing that massive 8+ zone a week out and now once with this one, which featured some fantastic looking EPS runs. 

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13 minutes ago, SnowenOutThere said:

Is there any reason in particular that the models all have had it bleed the wrong way for 6 runs plus because it’s been tough to never see that reverse

I don’t know. Not going to pretend I understand what the error there (either before or now) is caused by. But as it continues to trend this way it’s making my arguments less relevant. They were based on an H5 look from 24 hours ago that’s becoming significantly different if that lobe doesn’t fully detach and close off its own circulation in time.  Then its a suppressive instead of an amplifying force. 

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4 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

The absolute best case right now is for a 50 or so mile NW bump and we get into the over 6" accumulation line.   Going back to the HECS thing is just off the table now.

Anyone seriously looking for a HECS right now is either being deliberately ignorant or a complete fool (or...both!).  I still hold out hope that a decent warning-level cold powder storm is on the table.

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a 50 mile shift is not much at this range and while that is certainly possible even in this case, it’s doubtful given the strong trends the opposite way. 
 

50 mile shift is very possible

To the east
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10 minutes ago, MN Transplant said:

Kucera is out of control.  That’s like a 17:1 ratio.

Surprisingly Kuchera is only around 14-15:1 for DC area. 0.41” QPF in total. I’d imagine that would be too high with the best ascent further south, but it is damn cold throughout. Probably better than 10:1, but likely not better than 12:1 at any point. Further southeast where ascent is maximized, I could see those 13-15:1 ratios in this one. Man, what could’ve been with this one….

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18 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

We lost the last model...the one we all knew better than to trust, but needed for cope-ium.   Ladies and gents, it's almost time to let it go.   We stay until 0z tomm...then it's over

What are we all having for our last meal tomorrow night? 

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10 minutes ago, mikeg0305 said:

I’m not bragging…ok maybe just a little, but I asked the question yesterday of why you all didn’t think this storm would be suppressed south and it was crickets.

I’ve made like 50 posts answering that over the last 24 hours. 

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