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Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?


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Just now, MorristownWx said:

Why are you doing this to yourself? admittedly, I checked in on the thread for entertainment purposes but this has been dead now for over 36 hours as a storm. We can still see snow showers or flurries, but the storm idea for us is gone. 

 

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2 hours ago, snowman19 said:

Great post about the NBM. NBM has a very bad lag and it’s not done adjusting to the new model consensus we just had, the next update will have even less snow. This one is over IMO. Today at 12z was my benchmark for declaring it dead after all the model runs completed. We are now inside of 3 days and have complete consensus on a total non event. NAM (12K, 3K), RGEM, GFS, ICON, UKMET, CMC, EURO, EURO-AIFS, GFS-GraphCast and the ensembles (GEFS, EPS, GEPS) are all in the same agreement

My cutoff time has been 0Z tonight, so I'll wait a little a little longer before declaring the patient dead, plus I take seriously Walt's input here, as he's been rock solid on not going big early when many did, but also sticking with his few inches forecast, still, so while I'm pretty certain anything beyond 2-4" is dead for the 95 corridor I still think it's possible we could have a 1-2" event (and an outside shot at 2-4") instead of a complete whiff (which is also obviously possible given the models).  So, I'm still following everything, but at a distance...

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1 hour ago, Allsnow said:

Euro AI did well this non event. Never showed a hit inside 8 days 

Except for 12Z Saturday when it showed 0.5 QPF right along 95 (so 6"+ with ratios along 95 with ratios and 7-10" towards the coast), which is at least a significant hit (4-8"), so not sure on your definition of "hit."  Certainly not "major" (8-14" is my definition of major).  

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5 hours ago, weatherpruf said:

I'm retired with no work season thank god, and I still hate that kinda weather. Messes up the fishing. Not that there's much to fish for anymore; really miss the old winter flounder runs, which used to be from Boston to Barnegat ( Barnegat Bay was their southern extent, many believe it was due to cedar but who knows ) I caught one in LI Sound last year porgy fishing; the kids on board had never seen one. Still see them offshore on wrecks, which is not my kinda fishing. I'm a bay rat.

When I was a kid we used to easily pull flounder in bunches out of Cold Spring Harbor with a hand line.  I've never been a fisherman but that was easy.  I assume that may have changed.

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2 hours ago, Snowlover11 said:

sorry keep your damn flurries, so done with this winter.  from huge storms to heartbreak.  done with the nickel and dime bs.:gun_bandana:

 

I'm not there YET but I am close as I will give it 2 more weeks and keep begging ,,,,,,,,March snow is almost always gone a day later,,,,,,,when Feb is over I get into yard and Spring mode

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Just now, Brasiluvsnow said:

I'm not there YET but I am close as I will give it 2 more weeks and keep begging ,,,,,,,,March snow is almost always gone a day later,,,,,,,when Feb is over I get into yard and Spring mode

mid march is typically when climo starts to work against us-so realistically we have 4 weeks to get another event or two

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7PM 2/17/25: adjusted headline to narrow the timing goal post of what has become a much more uncertain event since initially proposed...even with the option of no snow. This despite a strong short wave passage Thursday evening.  The GEFS still closes a low through PA while the EPS has weakened to an open - less ominous progressive short wave trough with no significant 850 MB onshore circulation.  The 15z/17 SREF, 18z/17 NAM and 12z/17 JMA are the only models with any significant hope for snow as the globals have largely faded southeast since thread inception.   The apparently lagged average BOM and 12z/17 WPC still maintain an opportunity for a period of light snow (1/2-4" nw to se on the BOM). 

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