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Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?


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2 minutes ago, Tatamy said:

This is one of these be careful for what you wish for types of storms.  As shown on the 0z run of the Euro the storm is very intense and would cause major disruption across the area.  Strong winds, high tides with coastal flooding and erosion,  heavy snows with travel impacts, and a sting jet on the backside would all combine to cause major problems across the area.  The 06z run tracked the center further east away from the coast.

The best combo would be if it stalled and looped around.

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9 minutes ago, Tatamy said:

I hope you don’t own ocean front or bay front property.

No 2 miles in.

Winter storms don't do a lot of damage to our beaches unless one lives on a barrier island and I don't remember any snowstorm especially damaging ocean front or beach front property, it's usually the big rainstorms that do it like December 1992.

 

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5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

No 2 miles in.

Winter storms don't do a lot of damage to our beaches unless one lives on a barrier island and I don't remember any snowstorm especially damaging ocean front or beach front property, it's usually the big rainstorms that do it like December 1992.

 

Was actually better than 0z def trended better 

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1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said:

The 2/15 6z GFS has taken a minor step toward the snowier guidance. Whether this is the start of a model adjustment or just run-to-run discontinuity remains to be seen.

24-Hour Snowfall Forecasts:

2/15 0z GFS:

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2/15 6z GFS:

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Don, I do appreciate how diplomatic you are in your posts. “Model adjustment”… 

Here’s hoping the Euro is right…long way to go. 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes, it was a mini January 2016.  15 inches in 12 hours instead of 30 inches in 24 hours lol... 6 hours of true blizzard conditions vs 12 hours of true blizzard conditions. It happened during the day and you could not see anything outside for hours it was a true white out!

Everyone seems to forget February 1-2 2021.

We had 27.5 inches where I am in Orange County NY, and Central Park had 17.4 inches. I realize it's 4 years ago but not quite as long as people are making it out to be.

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33 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Everyone seems to forget February 1-2 2021.

We had 27.5 inches where I am in Orange County NY, and Central Park had 17.4 inches. I realize it's 4 years ago but not quite as long as people are making it out to be.

It was a great winter, but the pandemic still overshadowed it. I was still in isolation.  Had to walk in the park and the snowpack was deep, let me tell ya. We did have mixing in NJ and that made things worse.

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46 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Everyone seems to forget February 1-2 2021.

We had 27.5 inches where I am in Orange County NY, and Central Park had 17.4 inches. I realize it's 4 years ago but not quite as long as people are making it out to be.

I loved both the December and February snowstorms that winter, that was another snowy la nina after el nino.

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9 minutes ago, weatherpruf said:

It was a great winter, but the pandemic still overshadowed it. I was still in isolation.  Had to walk in the park and the snowpack was deep, let me tell ya. We did have mixing in NJ and that made things worse.

Yes that was a mixing storm here too and the snowfall rates weren't as high as the other two I mentioned.

 

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54 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said:

Everyone seems to forget February 1-2 2021.

We had 27.5 inches where I am in Orange County NY, and Central Park had 17.4 inches. I realize it's 4 years ago but not quite as long as people are making it out to be.

We had 2" then rain with that one here lol

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3 hours ago, Yanksfan said:

A blizzard is great I guess with all the high winds and drifting, but not great for snow growth. The high winds breaks down the dendrites. You want calmer winds for maximum snow accumulation potential.

True that.  We're on a hill a little over a mile from the sound and the wind howls and seldom get as much snow as a few miles south of here in a true blizzard.  We're 10 miles from ISP and in several of the major blizzards over the past 20 years have seen on the order of 16" while ISP is closer to 2 feet, yet the snow seems to disappear faster there.  The biggest example was also the windiest; December 2010 when we barely reached 12" of dense powder.

When winds are light any snowfall differences are explained only by banding or mixing issues.

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2 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

True that.  We're on a hill not far from the sound and seldom get denser snow than a few miles south of here.  We're 10 miles from ISP and in several of the major blizzards over the past 20 years have seen on the order of 16" while ISP is closer to 2 feet, yet the snow seems to disappear faster there.  The biggest example was also the windiest; December 2010 when we barely reached 12" of dense powder.

When winds are light any snowfall differences are explained only by banding or mixing issues.

But then you can also have a super windy blizzard like January 2016 with 12 straight hours of true blizzard conditions that drops over 30 inches at JFK.

Maybe February 1978 is an example of wind reducing total snowfall though as JFK only received 14 inches in that storm, less than half of what they got in January 2016.

 

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