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Discussion-OBS snow event sometime between 06z Thu 2/20-12z Fri 2/21?


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The GFS improved a ton, the Ukie improved a ton. The last euro run was great... 1 random run of the euro had a step back, 5 days out. The Euro reaction right now is exactly what I told my friend would happen in this thread at some point, whether we get the storm or not in the end. Such a fun social pattern to observe year after year.


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6 minutes ago, Jt17 said:

The GFS improved a ton, the Ukie improved a ton. The last euro run was great... 1 random run of the euro had a step back, 5 days out. The Euro reaction right now is exactly what I told my friend would happen in this thread at some point, whether we get the storm or not in the end. Such a fun social pattern to observe year after year.


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and you can always predict how individual posters here will react as soon as there is the first negative run ( less snow) of a individual model after many positive runs ( more snow) - lets see how Upton and MT. Holly react at about 3:30 pm

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5 minutes ago, Jt17 said:

The GFS improved a ton, the Ukie improved a ton. The last euro run was great... 1 random run of the euro had a step back, 5 days out. The Euro reaction right now is exactly what I told my friend would happen in this thread at some point, whether we get the storm or not in the end. Such a fun social pattern to observe year after year.


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Even if all the models take a step back tonight it's not over until Monday 

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7 minutes ago, Jt17 said:

The GFS improved a ton, the Ukie improved a ton. The last euro run was great... 1 random run of the euro had a step back, 5 days out. The Euro reaction right now is exactly what I told my friend would happen in this thread at some point, whether we get the storm or not in the end. Such a fun social pattern to observe year after year.


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There is a lot of time to resolve this for better or worse

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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

The kicker trough out West was a little stronger this run so everything shifted east from 0z. Need to weaken that feature in future runs for a stronger Rockies Ridge and Southeast Ridge. But the Pacific has been acting as the spoiler in recent years. So it will be something to watch over the next few days. 
 

New run

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Old run

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But that kicker hasn't even been sampled yet? When will that be properly sampled-- Monday?

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44 minutes ago, NEG NAO said:

and you can always predict how individual posters here will react as soon as there is the first negative run ( less snow) of a individual model after many positive runs ( more snow) - lets see how Upton and MT. Holly react at about 3:30 pm

I’m generally not thrown off by the movement of op runs 4 or 5+ days out but the agreement with many of the ensembles at 12z was a bit concerning. Plenty of time though, and no reason to panic. 

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1 hour ago, weatherpruf said:

Good luck. The harbor has become a focus of fall black fishing for the Sheepshead Bay boats that go for them. They can't fish NJ wrecks because the season starts too late. It isn't good anyway. I used to tie up to the rocks at the base of the Verrazano 35 years ago; can't do that anymore.

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Really need to get today/tomorrow's slop fest/damaging wind threat out of here before the operationals become useful.

What lies in wake after this weekend will show us what we're working with. Still ensemble range for now.  

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5 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

I can't believe they did that smh 

I can't understand using "showers" is that a mistake ? I wouldn't have included that just reduce the percentage to 60 % - should have never been 70 % yesterday - but what do I know.....

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7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

a *shower* not never even refer to snow, I hate that overused phrase with a passion

a shower should ONLY refer to rain

it means they don't expect a solid widespread area of precip and that we will be on the outer precip shield with dry slots - what are they going to do if the EURO moves west again tonight ?  along with the other models ? playing modelology here with their fav's waiting for MT. Holly afternoon update

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4 minutes ago, NEG NAO said:

it means they don't expect a solid widespread area of precip and that we will be on the outer precip shield with dry slots - what are they going to do if the EURO moves west again tonight ?  along with the other models ? playing modelology here with their fav's waiting for MT. Holly afternoon update

I just dont like the word *shower* when it refers to snow, it's a huge source of confusion for many people who always associate *shower* with rain.  I think that term needs to be retired from the weather lexicon and just use flurries instead

 

You're right though, can't waffle back and forth, they should just say *A chance of snow*

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