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2/12 Winter Storm


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  On 2/11/2025 at 8:20 PM, HillsdaleMIWeather said:

Nam is at least a step better than 12Z, hoping the bleeding has stopped 

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Can we rely on it though? It still along the cutoff line has a wildly different split. I’m going 2-4” north of US 24 and 1-2” south of it. Might as well just label it as cement for the final accumulations

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  On 2/11/2025 at 9:18 PM, Jackstraw said:

I'm hanging popsicle sticks on the clothesline tomorrow  to give me something to suck on while I'm curled up in the fetal position until march lol

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I spent last weekend in Indy where we got plain rain. I noticing ice on the drive north on Sunday afternoon in just about in your area.

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  On 2/11/2025 at 9:43 PM, Stevo6899 said:

18z rgem is best case scenario for whole detroit area, including Josh now. Wettest and snowiest run yet.

I look forward to dtx issuing wwa then upgrading to a warning after 5 inches is already on the ground per usual.

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I will give them this; the didn't cancel the watch yet for the eastern counties.  They just might be catching on how to do it for our area :rambo: :lol:

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  On 2/11/2025 at 3:18 PM, RCNYILWX said:

Some hindsight involved here, but I think the average of the ensemble 10:1 mean, probability and percentile stuff told a pretty consistent story. From the NWS perspective, I haven't been directly involved in the forecast process this time, but the inter-office collab and collab with WPC aspect is way more challenging than many realize. Internally, we felt that the QPF and ratios were too aggressive but there's only so much we can do when trying to form a consistent picture across large regions.

To me this looked like a advisory to perhaps low end warning event, particularly on the non-GFS/GEFS data. It's easy to get caught up in the Kuchera ratio output when assessing the snowfall forecast, that method is too simplistic though. 10:1 gets bashed, and it should in marginal temp situations and more clear cut high ratio setups, but I think it's a good first guess plenty of the time for synoptic systems.

Use the 10:1 and then adjust up where you're confident better banding is going to set up, through using model diagnostics like f-gen and cross sections, and utilizing the Cobb output.

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With complete respect, I don’t think this is accurate. Most guidance was hinting at around 0.4” of QPF 36 hours ago with ratios around 15:1, generally leading to 5-8” of snow. Some were showing even more, but I agree with not giving them much weight.

Now it’s looking like 0.25” of QPF with 12:1 ratios, around 3” of snow.

That’s a huge difference. 
 

It’s frustrating that a million things need to come together to get a proper snowfall around here. What happened to clippers?

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  On 2/11/2025 at 9:53 PM, hawkeye_wx said:

Most models are fairly consistent with the snow band through Iowa.  4-6" looks reasonable here.  The drying out from Missouri through Illinois is pretty brutal.

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Yeah don't remind me. Congrats to Iowa and Michigan crowd. Illinois can't catch a break this year esp my neck of the woods. 

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