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2/12 Winter Storm


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2 minutes ago, CIllinoisSnow said:

Looking like the 0z models are clearly drier across the board :( An unfortunate trend this winter but pretty used to it at this point 

Definitely seems to be the theme of this winter. I truly thought we finally reeled one in but seasons trend won't be denied. Sigh

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2 hours ago, Radtechwxman said:

Drier and se trend not being denied again. It's better than nam but not by a lot. Although 0z gfs didn't really come se. Just drier. Curious if this trend continues or if we see it level out or increase again. 

 

2 hours ago, McHenrySnow said:

The good news is we still have 36 hours for this to completely shit the bed. 

Multi year “drier, weaker, SE” trend will not be denied. 
 

Man I miss the “wagons north” days 

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Seems models have gotten worse these days. Maybe too models and too many model runs? Feels like back in the day you could count on their depiction 3-4 days out, with some relative minor corrections as you got closer. Now its wholesale changes 24-36 hours out. Euro especially has become undependable, unlike the past. Used to be ironclad. Now it's like the 51 hour RAP.

Oh well I guess. My original thoughts with this one were a 3-5/4-6" type system. Might be more like 1-3/3-5" at this point. 

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I think there’s a decent chance that a good part of Illinois is fighting for 1-3” tops. Northern 1/4 (QC, RFD, ORD, etc) should be fine (3-6”) but they’ll have the mid-level low snows to depend on, while the rest of us are banking on the main low which looks to develop slower and farther east than earlier predicted. Models really hitting this idea right now.

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47 minutes ago, Chicago WX said:

Seems models have gotten worse these days. Maybe too models and too many model runs? Feels like back in the day you could count on their depiction 3-4 days out, with some relative minor corrections as you got closer. Now its wholesale changes 24-36 hours out. Euro especially has become undependable, unlike the past. Used to be ironclad. Now it's like the 51 hour RAP.

Oh well I guess. My original thoughts with this one were a 3-5/4-6" type system. Might be more like 1-3/3-5" at this point. 

I believe it had more do to with us knowing the biases.  We knew the NW trend would continue until the bitter end.  We knew the QPF could be cut to 60%.  We knew if the EURO and GFS were different than ignore the GFS. 

I mentioned in an earlier post that several model update have left us with a lot less trust in any one solution.  There is a lot more weak and further south with some occasional stronger further north.  The biases have become difficult to predict (though generally I think we are seeing more weaker and further south overall than we were ever used to).

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12 minutes ago, Lightning said:

I believe it had more do to with us knowing the biases.  We knew the NW trend would continue until the bitter end.  We knew the QPF could be cut 60%.  We knew if the EURO and GFS were different than ignore the GFS. 

I mentioned in an earlier post that several model update have left us with a lot less trust in any one solution.  There is a lot more weak and further south with some occasional stronger further north.  The biases have become difficult to predict (though generally I think we are seeing more weaker and further south overall than we were ever used to).

With all that being said the GFS has been schooling almost everybody the last few Winters, atleast with the events I've been tracking. Obviously many were hoping for the stronger Northwest storm. That's the problem with these Texas/colorado lows, us in Detroit we have to hope for the weaker solutions in order to get snow (or have the low eject further SE out of texas, gulf) which is a bummer for our friends to the west. At the end of the day you'd like to see a powerhouse storm for someone, and hopefully that delivers by the end of winter.

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Only need to track about 6 more of these systems to reach seasonal snow averages. Or about three seasons worth of favorable pattern windows. NWS forecast still robust on this though

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Models seem to be keeping the solid swath through Iowa, but drying it out to the south where it was supposed to be heavier.

I was excited for this, but I caught an illness yesterday and I feel like crap today.  The last thing I'd want to do now is go out into the cold to shovel/blow, or even measure.  :axe:

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8 hours ago, SchaumburgStormer said:

 

Multi year “drier, weaker, SE” trend will not be denied. 
 

Man I miss the “wagons north” days 

I'll take it all day :snowwindow:

Feeling more and more confident in a 3-6" for the Toledo metro as this goes on. To your point, wagons south and the GFS winning is an odd feeling

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