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February 11-12; 12-13: Are they real??


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2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

It has a disconnect with that fgen band to our SE. also that band is rain v snow on the gem. But I think that disconnect helps places north of DC. 

Big difference between the NAM and RGEM is that the NAM has a break in precip on Wednesday while the RGEM's transition is blurrier.  Unfortunately on the RGEM that means rain by Wednesday evening.

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We've seen some subtle north trends over the past 12-24 hours. Using Tomer Burg's site, we can see the 700mb heights have ever so slightly increase over the past 5 runs over the Mid-Atlantic. This could be a combination of the primary system being a little slower, the northern confluence exiting a smidge faster, the increased latent heat release in the south aiding in slightly higher heights, or frankly all of the above. I'm a sucker for Q-vectors (always have been) and Tomer's site does show Q-Vectors converging better over the Mid-Atlantic on Tuesday, implying better mid-level convergence over the region that aligns favorably beneath the divergent right-entrance region of a roaring 175 knot 300mb jet streak over New England. Not to mention a healthy IVT that supplies plenty of moisture to work with.

The mesoscale processes involved do show a good consolidated area of 850-700mb FGEN, but be cognizant of where the 700mb FGEN aligns. We've seen at least one instance where the 700mb FGEN has led to a stronger northern band of snow (thinking of an event over north-central PA a month ago or so). Regardless, the synoptic-scale look is one that can favor some hefty snowfall rates Tuesday afternoon into Tuesday night, but this is still be TBD over the next 24-36 hours as guidance starts to key in more on those mesoscale factors. WPC's Winter Storm outlook shows mostly 30-50% probs for snowfall amounts exceeding warning criteria for effectively all of northern VA and a good chunk of MD along and south of I-70 for the time being. >50% probs are farther south.

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1 minute ago, winter_warlock said:

Seems very conservative lol

The uncertainties about temperatures and rates do knock this down - they are predicting what sticks. Big items on my list today are seeing if the can get temps down and/or get the heaviest after dark. Don’t want to burn the best stuff before 6pm. 

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4 minutes ago, winter_warlock said:

Seems very conservative lol

Maybe a little. But I'd argue that it's pretty realistic. The NWS understands how to interpret models/maps with comically inflated totals. Their forecast isn't based verbatim on snow maps that don't reflect reality on the ground. There's a reason you see professional mets in this thread suggesting that 3-5 is a reasonable region-wide forecast, at least as of right now. 

Here's hoping we continue to see a juiced-up trend, however - we'd all be onboard with that.

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3 minutes ago, wxmvpete said:

We've seen some subtle north trends over the past 12-24 hours. Using Tomer Burg's site, we can see the 700mb heights have ever so slightly increase over the past 5 runs over the Mid-Atlantic. This could be a combination of the primary system being a little slower, the northern confluence exiting a smidge faster, the increased latent heat release in the south aiding in slightly higher heights, or frankly all of the above. I'm a sucker for Q-vectors (always have been) and Tomer's site does show Q-Vectors converging better over the Mid-Atlantic on Tuesday, implying better mid-level convergence over the region that aligns favorably beneath the divergent right-entrance region of a roaring 175 knot 300mb jet streak over New England. Not to mention a healthy IVT that supplies plenty of moisture to work with.

The mesoscale processes involved do show a good consolidated area of 850-700mb FGEN, but be cognizant of where the 700mb FGEN aligns. We've seen at least one instance where the 700mb FGEN has led to a stronger northern band of snow (thinking of an event over north-central PA a month ago or so). Regardless, the synoptic-scale look is one that can favor some hefty snowfall rates Tuesday afternoon into Tuesday night, but this is still be TBD over the next 24-36 hours as guidance starts to key in more on those mesoscale factors. WPC's Winter Storm outlook shows mostly 30-50% probs for snowfall amounts exceeding warning criteria for effectively all of northern VA and a good chunk of MD along and south of I-70 for the time being. >50% probs are farther south.

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Very nice read !!!!

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5 minutes ago, NorthArlington101 said:

The uncertainties about temperatures and rates do knock this down - they are predicting what sticks. Big items on my list today are seeing if the can get temps down and/or get the heaviest after dark. Don’t want to burn the best stuff before 6pm. 

GFS slower through 51, not bothering me yet 

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