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February 11-12; 12-13: Are they real??


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1 minute ago, winter_warlock said:

I know that but climo does  play a part.  That's why temps average  alot colder in northern MD then they do in Southern Virginia.  

Suppose its snowing heavily in S VA and you are smoking cirrus? Without an Arctic airmass in place your more northern area could easily be warmer.

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5 minutes ago, bncho said:

Euro is south. Yikes.

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I like it where it is, tbh. We don’t have a block established yet, and when it isn’t there or is just starting, storms almost always come north at the last minute! 

(Before anyone comes at me with their backyard anecdotes, i’ll say its a different story once the block does establish itself as it did for the Jan 6 storm for example)

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35 minutes ago, winter_warlock said:

Well being 120 Mile's south would make ya a lil warmer 

No, that’s not how it works. At all. Not hating, just saying lol. Cold air moves, as does warm air. It can be warmed and/or colder anywhere in the country. It can be 25 in Louisiana and 60 in Richmond. 

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11 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

I like it where it is, tbh. We don’t have a block established yet, and when it isn’t there or is just starting, storms almost always come north at the last minute! 

(Before anyone comes at me with their backyard anecdotes, i’ll say its a different story once the block does establish itself as it did for the Jan 6 storm for example)

Jan 6 storm was nice but it wasn't that big if a storm. This coming storm Tuesday will be about the sane thing.  Typical 4 to 8

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11 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

I like it where it is, tbh. We don’t have a block established yet, and when it isn’t there or is just starting, storms almost always come north at the last minute! 

(Before anyone comes at me with their backyard anecdotes, i’ll say its a different story once the block does establish itself as it did for the Jan 6 storm for example)

I just want this thing to have enough juice. I'm less concerned about north or south and more concerned with qpf

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Just now, aldie 22 said:

I just want this thing to have enough juice. I'm less concerned about north or south and more concerned with qpf

That’s fair. We’ll see how much moisture comes out of the gulf for the tuesday wave. I’m willing to bet it will be a little more than the models are currently showing. 

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1 hour ago, Ji said:

its still a pretty wet run down south. still dont believe Richmond will be the bullseye for this storm

You have to realize most of the people dooming this are in northeast MD. I know you think you’ve had it bad but they’ve had it 2x worse. I’ve been lucky I’ve caught some of the SE edge of storms that went just to our regions north over the last 8 years like 2 weeks ago.  But there is an area from Baltimore northeast in our forum that’s had absolutely no good snowstorms the last 8 years. Every single one fringed them. Some went north. Some did what this one is looking like.  But it’s absolutely amazing. I keep saying it’s just random bad luck but my god. 

1 hour ago, Paleocene said:

@dailylurkercalling it now. That e-w stripe thru RIC is actually an E-W stripe thru sterling, silver spring, crofton, annapolis, and @CAPE

 

33 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

I like it where it is, tbh. We don’t have a block established yet, and when it isn’t there or is just starting, storms almost always come north at the last minute! 

(Before anyone comes at me with their backyard anecdotes, i’ll say its a different story once the block does establish itself as it did for the Jan 6 storm for example)

Combining both these points, imo it depends if we see a change in the orientation of the precip. The better runs had a SW-NE trajectory. This W-E trajectory won’t work. It’s not coming at us from a high enough latitude if it’s not amplifying and gaining latitude. If it was we would have temp issues because the thermal gradient is situated such that we need a wave that’s gaining some latitude as it progresses. 
 

Also in general the north trend is real in non blocking regimes but NOT when the wave is on a W-E trajectory. Waves that are gaining latitude tend to trend north. I’ve noticed through when a wave is not gaining any latitude on its way east it actually trends south more often. I think it’s just a product of the fact that if a wave isn’t gaining latitude it’s not amplifying but also it would take an error earlier in the process where the storm has to start out further north. The north trend is usually from models underestimating the feedback from the southerly flow ahead of the wave once it gets going not from a placement error of the wave as it ejects into the plains.

TLDR version, if we bet to 72 hours out and this still has a W-E trajectory it probably is going to stay south. If it starts to take on a SW-NE trajectory we are good.  

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5 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Hopefully, Eps will prevail. 120hrs for storm 1 and 144hrs for 2, or part of it.

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Ok I’m gonna be a deb here and point out our 6” mean is from 3 waves 2” at a time with rain in between. That’s kinda meh. Sorry if that offends some. No I don’t need 8”+ to be happy. I was tickled pink by the 6” snow I got last month.  But a bunch of 2” fringe jobs doesn’t do much for me. If that makes me a horrible person so be it. 

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