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5 minutes ago, Kmlwx said:

I'm far too tiny to be reaped. You'll never catch me. 

Had it been during severe season I 100% would not have forgotten you!!! I swear! I have your diagram of severe weather risk categories in my "Critical Documents" folder on my NAS device at home. It's literally in the same folder as copies of my health insurance card and other vital docs...and no I am not kidding :lol: 

Never underestimate the Reaper!  He's got a little list, you know! 

(From Gilbert and Sullivan's "Mikado", Ko-Ko the Lord High Executioner):

As some day it may happen that a victim must be found
I've got a little list — I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground
And who never would be missed — who never would be missed! :D

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2 minutes ago, ravensrule said:

Ok i'll seek help, but definitely not from a mentally unstable individual such as yourself. 

you actually haven't stated what you think about all this.  Do you think it's a good idea to hobble NOAA and NWS with indiscriminate firings?  Or are you just going to be a coward and lob attacks at other posters?

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11 minutes ago, Kmlwx said:

I'm far too tiny to be reaped. You'll never catch me. 

Had it been during severe season I 100% would not have forgotten you!!! I swear! I have your diagram of severe weather risk categories in my "Critical Documents" folder on my NAS device at home. It's literally in the same folder as copies of my health insurance card and other vital docs...and no I am not kidding :lol: 

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17 minutes ago, Stebo said:

I know I am not from this subforum obviously, but I did want to put in my two cents. What happened today is going to set back this country as a whole so badly. Weather observations/models/data that will rapidly disappear, is a necessary facet to so much. People have taken for granted what happens behind the scenes for far too long. We are going to see what happens very quickly as we might have a significant tornado outbreak next week. Any degradation of data between now and then will make things significantly harder.

I really feel for those who got fired today for no reason other than the whim of a couple of morons.

I feel the same...though I'll add, it's not just the whim morons, it's specifically designed to be cruel and hurtful.

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16 minutes ago, Rhino16 said:

I could not be graduating with a met degree at a worse time. I don’t know what my next steps will be. May is an eternity from now. I could go grad, but I worry about funding and research. 

Ok I’m going to get serious here.

I know there’s a lot of apprehension right now, but one of the best lessons I’ve learned in life is this: what seems like a crossroads or inflection point today is often a footnote in your story years later. 

You should be immensely proud of what you’ve accomplished, and excited for your life and career ahead. I know you know that life and careers aren’t a straight line and certainly not as illuminated a path as we hope, but you will find your place, even if it takes a little time. 

Be encouraged, enjoy your final semester, and remember that hard work, openness to challenge, determination, and just being a good person that people want to be around can take you a very long way. 

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4 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Ok I’m going to get serious here.

I know there’s a lot of apprehension right now, but one of the best lessons I’ve learned in life is this: what seems like a crossroads or inflection point today is often a footnote in your story years later. 

You should be immensely proud of what you’ve accomplished, and excited for your life and career ahead. I know you know that life and careers aren’t a straight line and certainly not as illuminated a path as we hope, but you will find your place, even if it takes a little time. 

Be encouraged, enjoy your final semester, and remember that hard work, openness to challenge, determination, and just being a good person that people want to be around can take you a very long way. 

This is a good comment.  One has to hold out some hope that this won't continue forever.  Even if one's first "real" job right after college isn't exactly related to your chosen career (such as meteorology), do what you can, and eventually you can get into what you wanted to originally do.

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29 minutes ago, pazzo83 said:

you actually haven't stated what you think about all this.  Do you think it's a good idea to hobble NOAA and NWS with indiscriminate firings?  Or are you just going to be a coward and lob attacks at other posters?

I think it’s awful, why would i think otherwise. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea that I’m a bad guy. I’m just very patriotic and I think people don’t realize what a great Country we live in and don’t appreciate the freedoms we have that most places don’t. So my mindset is if it upsets you so much then don’t complain all day and just move somewhere else that is more to your liking. Good luck finding that though. 

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17 minutes ago, Scarlet Pimpernel said:

Must be nice to say that from a place of privilege if you're not in that "9 percent", who are losing their jobs for no apparent good reason.

I have lost a job for no reason before. I think a lot of people have. It’s why I decided to become self employed and not be reliant on someone else. I have a lot of sympathy for those who lost their jobs.  I’m not on board with it or in favor of it, but I don’t consider it a crippling blow to the organization. I will say, there are a ton of government employees that have worked and abused the system, I’m related to them, I’ve witnessed it. Some of these repercussions in other organizations is due to rampant abuse. Not saying that’s the case with NOAA or NWS, but it’s the case with other organizations. 

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I felt I was not in the right frame of mind to be civil and didn’t want to make things a shit show so had to step away.  But seeing the current state of things…not sure that matters much now. 

I didn’t come in here to escalate things even further. I’ll be civil.  But 2 points that aren’t political. These are just facts 

1) we cannot fix our fiscal problems this way.  Even if we eliminated all of our regulatory and public service agencies it wouldn’t even account for half the deficit!  Plus the damage it would cause to the economy would hurt tax revenues which is the other half of the equation.  This isn’t politics it’s math. This isn’t going to help the fiscal mess we are in it’s just going to hurt a ton of people. If we really want to get out of fiscal hell the only viable path is to freeze spending at current levels then only increase it at inflationary increments and grow our way out over time. That’s the only way. Cutting our way won’t work because only a small % of the deficit is from discretionary spending and the damage to our tax revenues offsets the cuts.  Sorry again this is basic economic and math. Not politics. 

2) attacking our public servants is dangerous.  But more so the cruelty I see right now is ridiculous.  What’s the point of all the “welcome to the real world where people get fired all the time” comments.  Yea and my whole life our culture openly despised the evils of corporate America.  This is the part I really don’t get.  There feels like this idea that some think public servants are their enemies.  That because at some point they felt economic pain they should too.  Why?  Many of them are in careers where the whole point of what they do is to fight the private sectors cruel inequities!  But instead of joining them you decided the better course was to make sure they suffer also?  Is that who you want to be?  You think teachers and meteorologist and civil engineers and environmentalists and doctors and social workers and first responders should all suffer because you aren’t as well off economically as you want to be?   You think attacking the people who devote their lives to public service and rejoicing in their pain and suffering is making us a better society?  That isn’t political it’s insanity and cruelty  

 

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15 minutes ago, ravensrule said:

I think it’s awful, why would i think otherwise. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea that I’m a bad guy. I’m just very patriotic and I think people don’t realize what a great Country we live in and don’t appreciate the freedoms we have that most places don’t. So my mindset is if it upsets you so much then don’t complain all day and just move somewhere else that is more to your liking. Good luck finding that though. 

Just because there are some incredible aspects to this country (which are currently being destroyed), that doesn't mean there aren't legitimate criticisms either.  I've actually lived abroad - yes, the US is a unique, incredible place.  But it has plenty of flaws, and it isn't immune from the type of self-destruction that has afflicted other great powers in our past.  So don't fucking tell someone to pack up and leave just because they have some criticism or negative opinion about what is going on.  It's my goddamn right to say whatever I want about how the country is faring.

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14 minutes ago, ravensrule said:

I think it’s awful, why would i think otherwise. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea that I’m a bad guy. I’m just very patriotic and I think people don’t realize what a great Country we live in and don’t appreciate the freedoms we have that most places don’t. So my mindset is if it upsets you so much then don’t complain all day and just move somewhere else that is more to your liking. Good luck finding that though. 

I’m not going to engage in personal attacks but careful with the “love it or leave it” stuff. First of all I’ve been to many other places and it’s true our society is better than most I don’t think we are the best.  There are places I think have their value more aligned to mine than here. I’d be perfectly happy there. Does that make me a horrible person?  Do I have to leave?  IMO being critical of your own society in order to improve it is not negative.  It’s how you make progress.  Should the founders not have been critical of King George?  If you disagree with a point address that point. Explain why you don’t agree. Neither side (and I mean that) should use the flag as a way to stifle expression. 

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On 2/26/2025 at 4:15 PM, WEATHER53 said:

He likes the melodrama of storming off

Who offended  his precious models this time?

So I guess you decided to end the truce you asked for?  Are we attacking each other personally again now?  If so ok but then don’t you dare play some game where you complain I’m attacking you unprovoked or “stalking you” or some such nonsense.  I’ve not said jack since you asked if we could be civil. If you want to go back to open season so be it but that works both ways. So what’s it gonna be?  

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13 minutes ago, nj2va said:

Guess I need to get rid of my account…not interested in a forum getting into politics. Good luck everyone! 

It’s off topic. It’s not in the weather thread. And I found your jingoistic posts a few days ago to be political. But I didn’t try to stop you from expressing yourself I simply made my case why I disagreed. Then that ironically got shut down as “political”.  But you haven’t had an issue making posts clearly articulating your ideological standpoint.  Granted you do so in an ambiguous and subtle way but it’s picked up on. Don’t think I’ve not noticed.  But then you complain when you have to be confronted by an opposing pov. 

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8 hours ago, Rhino16 said:

I could not be graduating with a met degree at a worse time. I don’t know what my next steps will be. May is an eternity from now. I could go grad, but I worry about funding and research. 

I hear that. I’d say take a look at all options, cast a broad net. NWS is probably out as an option for awhile, but your skills are still marketable. I came out of grad school at a low point in nasa funding and it was daunting. Keep working and hang in there and things will turn.

7 hours ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Ok I’m going to get serious here.

I know there’s a lot of apprehension right now, but one of the best lessons I’ve learned in life is this: what seems like a crossroads or inflection point today is often a footnote in your story years later. 

You should be immensely proud of what you’ve accomplished, and excited for your life and career ahead. I know you know that life and careers aren’t a straight line and certainly not as illuminated a path as we hope, but you will find your place, even if it takes a little time. 

Be encouraged, enjoy your final semester, and remember that hard work, openness to challenge, determination, and just being a good person that people want to be around can take you a very long way. 

 

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