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February Banter 2025


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1 hour ago, psuhoffman said:

I think around March 6-10th might be our best but final window.  As the pacific pattern retrogrades there will be a brief window when there is still antecedent cold left and as a trough builds off the west coast it could favor an amplification in the east.  After that the ridge in the WPO will cause some SER and in March any is too much.  I'm not convinced its a long term pattern change and we go warm and stay warm but we probably don't have time for another recycle.  It might turn colder again towards March 20 but by then we would need a once in 30 year type anomaly to get any snow of significance in the area, even up here.  

I probably won't be able to post much longer...so if this is it...its been fun.  Wish I could have gone out with a win!  

You are one of the most valuable contributors here, and most of us greatly appreciate your knowledge and insights.

As far as politics, I know many of us are headed for some very hard times, and it’s important to speak out.

However, there are a lot of much more effective places to make a difference and have a real impact, than on a weather forum where political talk isn’t allowed.

I don’t want you to leave because of this. If you can’t resist politics, I can invite you to discord channel that many of us have joined, where you’re free to speak your mind all you want.

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On 2/20/2025 at 12:14 AM, psuhoffman said:

We better hope not because we won’t be long for this world if we regress to our less civilized base state but with our current level of technology. I do not think giving any of those previous societies you mentioned access to chemical, biological and nuclear weapons would end well. 

I have argued that the modern version of a liberal Western democracy, or modern version of capitalism (whatever you want to call it) - where people in general try to optimize for  personal gain and consumption - really only works well and peacefully when there's an ever growing pie of resources to exploit.  Since WW2 and with the advent of globalization it has been a special time with seemingly endless new cheap resources and labor sources to exploit and mostly keep countries happy and peaceful.  

 

Now the earth is starting to get pretty crowded, and the resources are starting to dwindle.  Unless some new technology changes our trajectory I believe we will see increased competition between individuals and states for this shrinking resource pool.   I also doubt it will be an entirely peaceful transition.  

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1 hour ago, psuhoffman said:

Sorry I have to do what I feel is right 

Was going to dm this but it won't let me. Anyways, I just wanted to tell you that you have helped me so much when it comes to analyzing the weather and getting to understand it better (not just looking at the snow or precip maps anymore!). I also understand how you feel, I'm in the middle of applying for colleges, and despite wanting to attend a small liberal arts college in the northeast I think the only safe option is to apply and attend schools in Canada. I would love to hear your more in depth thoughts on whats unfolding in our country and what I (as a younger person) can do about it, if you would like to email me those thoughts then respond and Ill link it. Either way, thanks for everything.

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38 minutes ago, IronTy said:

I do agree with keeping politics off this forum.  Politics tends to ruin pretty much every conversation on the Internet whenever it pops up so I understand banning it on a weather board.   

It’s a very different situation now, so I understand why he feels the way he does.

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30 minutes ago, mattie g said:

It’s a very different situation now, so I understand why he feels the way he does.

I kinda understand it too. It's become quite intertwined with what's going on in many people's lives right now. However, be that as it may...Given how politics will ultimately cannibalize any other topic or conversation, it's nearly impossible to have that AND stick to the main topic this forum was created for in the first place: weather. So no matter what's going on (and again, i definitely get it),...it would be extremely difficult for the two to coexist without dissolving into who knows what (a la the recently nuked Hood). We're all gonna miss psu here, though! Hope he comes back eventually.

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2 hours ago, H2O said:

This is a weather board.  The focus is weather and should stay that way

Sometimes there is overlap. As a scientific community with a focus on weather and climate, this shouldn't just be brushed aside or ignored  because it is 'politics'.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/15/nx-s1-5297183/noaa-national-weather-service-trump?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5157377-trump-administration-noaa-cuts-imminent/

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1 hour ago, mattie g said:

It’s a very different situation now, so I understand why he feels the way he does.

Yeah.

I probably should apologize since I think it was my post that kicked this off and I definitely didn't mean to.  Yall know I hate talking politics over here and my intent was to highlight and focus the incredible misery and suffering happening, especially to my bf's mom.  I didn't mention any politician by name, but I can certainly see how it could have been inferred.   I was just lamenting how crushed she is.  She served her country in the military and now overseas in civil service with exemplary service and now she's just....gone.  Was just talkin it out with ol' friends (you all) because it indirectly affects me because now the bf is pretty down seeing his mom so low.  It just sucks all around.  I also have friends who worked in civil service for decades, just doing their jobs and now face financial anxiety.  It just worries me.

We need a goddamn snowstorm.   Might be a come to Jesus moment for me.  And by Jesus, I mean our waiter from last week.

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7 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

Yeah.

I probably should apologize since I think it was my post that kicked this off and I definitely didn't mean to.  Yall know I hate talking politics over here and my intent was to highlight and focus the incredible misery and suffering happening, especially to my bf's mom.  I didn't mention any politician by name, but I can certainly see how it could have been inferred.   I was just lamenting how crushed she is.  She served her country in the military and now overseas in civil service with exemplary service and now she's just....gone.  Was just talkin it out with ol' friends (you all) because it indirectly affects me because now the bf is pretty down seeing his mom so low.  It just sucks all around.  I also have friends who worked in civil service for decades, just doing their jobs and now face financial anxiety.  It just worries me.

We need a goddamn snowstorm.   Might be a come to Jesus moment for me.  And by Jesus, I mean our waiter from last week.

Wish there were a way to add 2 emoji responses.  I wanted to put the sad/sympathetic one in response to the stuff that happened to your bf's mom (just awful, and I am so sorry that happened!)...and a laughing one for the Jesus the Waiter line!  So I settled with a "like".

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1 hour ago, stormtracker said:

Yeah.

I probably should apologize since I think it was my post that kicked this off and I definitely didn't mean to.  Yall know I hate talking politics over here and my intent was to highlight and focus the incredible misery and suffering happening, especially to my bf's mom.  I didn't mention any politician by name, but I can certainly see how it could have been inferred.   I was just lamenting how crushed she is.  She served her country in the military and now overseas in civil service with exemplary service and now she's just....gone.  Was just talkin it out with ol' friends (you all) because it indirectly affects me because now the bf is pretty down seeing his mom so low.  It just sucks all around.  I also have friends who worked in civil service for decades, just doing their jobs and now face financial anxiety.  It just worries me.

We need a goddamn snowstorm.   Might be a come to Jesus moment for me.  And by Jesus, I mean our waiter from last week.

Sent you a PM my man

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2 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said:

I kinda understand it too. It's become quite intertwined with what's going on in many people's lives right now. However, be that as it may...Given how politics will ultimately cannibalize any other topic or conversation, it's nearly impossible to have that AND stick to the main topic this forum was created for in the first place: weather. So no matter what's going on (and again, i definitely get it),...it would be extremely difficult for the two to coexist without dissolving into who knows what (a la the recently nuked Hood). We're all gonna miss psu here, though! Hope he comes back eventually.

Ideally I wish we could talk about political topics without it becoming about parties or politicians or which side is better, and just keep it a thoughtful discussion about the issues, which I think psuhoffman was aiming to do.

But I understand why most of the staff wants to avoid even that, especially knowing what it can lead to.

And yet if these developments are deeply affecting both our best winter weather poster as well as the owner of this board, then it gets hard to avoid completely.

Alas, there is no perfect answer, and I think we can all agree that we really need a solid, area wide snowstorm before the season ends.

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27 minutes ago, Fozz said:

Ideally I wish we could talk about political topics without it becoming about parties or politicians or which side is better, and just keep it a thoughtful discussion about the issues, which I think psuhoffman was aiming to do.

But I understand why most of the staff wants to avoid even that, especially knowing what it can lead to.

And yet if these developments are deeply affecting both our best winter weather poster as well as the owner of this board, then it gets hard to avoid completely.

Alas, there is no perfect answer, and I think we can all agree that we really need a solid, area wide snowstorm before the season ends.

There is a perfect answer. No politics on this board. It only ends badly with keyboard  crusaders. 

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7 hours ago, mappy said:

This is not the place for it. Plenty of other spaces on the internet for you to discuss. Thank you! 

Nope it’s time to take sides. It’s too important. And of you’re not willing to be part of the solution you’re part of the problem. Ban me because I won’t stop. I can’t be silent anymore. 

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