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February 2025 General Discussion


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18 hours ago, Powerball said:

Media reports are a Delta flight that departed MSP ended up being flipped upside down while landing at YYZ (one of the wings are also missing).

Early speculation is that it was weather-related between high winds and snowy/icy runways, but it just happened within the hour and will be investigated.

Fortunately, there have been no deaths, but 8 people have been confirmed as injured...

Per Delta, it ended up being 19 inured people in total (out of 80 passengers and 4 crew members), and they've all been released from the hospital as of this morning.

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22 minutes ago, Powerball said:

Per Delta, it ended up being 19 inured people in total (out of 80 passengers and 4 crew members), and they've all been released from the hospital as of this morning.

I see there was a video posted this morning, pretty surreal to see. Pilot (or officer) waiting for that Delta flight to land was also taking a video of it, likely because of the intense crosswind and complete whiteout on the ground. I think Fox had it on Facebook. 
 

Nothing short of a miracle that they all managed to ultimately walk away, from a crash AND fireball. Pretty wild.

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29 minutes ago, Harry Perry said:

I see there was a video posted this morning, pretty surreal to see. Pilot (or officer) waiting for that Delta flight to land was also taking a video of it, likely because of the intense crosswind and complete whiteout on the ground. I think Fox had it on Facebook. 
 

Nothing short of a miracle that they all managed to ultimately walk away, from a crash AND fireball. Pretty wild.

Totally amazing that the fuselage stayed intact. Helped in reducing injuries/deaths

 

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Up In Paradise on the shores of Lake Superior. The entire 5+ hour drive from home to here was a gorgeous winter wonderland of thick velvetty blanketed snow. Absolute deep winter throughout the entire state of Michigan! @beavis1729would love it. Actually was colder this morning (0 to below) in Detroit than up here (5-10 with LES). Several feet on the ground up here. Will send a few pics when I get home!

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1 hour ago, madwx said:

I think we'll get a few more(less intense) cold/cool shots in the first two weeks of March, but around mid month there will be a switch flipped and it'll be off to the races

Medium range is brutal looking if you’re looking for Spring warmth just about anywhere after about day 10. The MJO should be in the colder phases too so it makes sense. I guess enjoy the warmer weather next week although that just looks more closer to normal than anything torchy.

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6 hours ago, roardog said:

Medium range is brutal looking if you’re looking for Spring warmth just about anywhere after about day 10. The MJO should be in the colder phases too so it makes sense. I guess enjoy the warmer weather next week although that just looks more closer to normal than anything torchy.

If using the East Asia Rule, there should be a decent warm-up during the second week of March. But really, anything past day 10 is just throwing darts in the dark. Besides, no one should be expecting consistent spring warmth until well into April anyway. Last year and 2012 were exceptions

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If anyone is a "snow chaser" you may want to consider making plans to be in northern St. Joseph County, IN or Berrien County, MI on Thursday. This may be one of those big dogs. A foot+ looks likely for some areas that get stuck under the lake-effect band. I'm not quite confident it'll be another Michigan City event like last year where they saw 30"+ but it certainly has the chance to be the best event in the region this winter. The bands kind of wiggle a little more at that trajectory leading to a little more "spread the wealth" if you will. Seems some mets are a little gun shy about going all in (and I can't blame them after the last two storms fizzled out) but most forecast snow maps show 3-6 inches. Barring a big change this seems like it'll certainly put down more. But then again I always bust high so... stay tuned.

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8 hours ago, sbnwx85 said:

If anyone is a "snow chaser" you may want to consider making plans to be in northern St. Joseph County, IN or Berrien County, MI on Thursday. This may be one of those big dogs. A foot+ looks likely for some areas that get stuck under the lake-effect band. I'm not quite confident it'll be another Michigan City event like last year where they saw 30"+ but it certainly has the chance to be the best event in the region this winter. The bands kind of wiggle a little more at that trajectory leading to a little more "spread the wealth" if you will. Seems some mets are a little gun shy about going all in (and I can't blame them after the last two storms fizzled out) but most forecast snow maps show 3-6 inches. Barring a big change this seems like it'll certainly put down more. But then again I always bust high so... stay tuned.

Not saying it won't happen as LES can surprise like it did here a few days ago but the lake is now cold / near freezing.  I like their call at this time.  This time of year the LES events tend to be more tempered compared to Nov, Dec and Jan.  

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10 hours ago, Lightning said:

Not saying it won't happen as LES can surprise like it did here a few days ago but the lake is now cold / near freezing.  I like their call at this time.  This time of year the LES events tend to be more tempered compared to Nov, Dec and Jan.  

At this point in the year if I can just get a medium dog I’ll be happy. We’ve got 4” on the ground. Give me 6” more so I can see double digits and then bring on Spring.

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17 hours ago, Maxim said:

If using the East Asia Rule, there should be a decent warm-up during the second week of March. But really, anything past day 10 is just throwing darts in the dark. Besides, no one should be expecting consistent spring warmth until well into April anyway. Last year and 2012 were exceptions

That depends on what you consider consistent spring warmth. That’s kind of relative to where you’re located. Once we start to get consistent highs 40 and above, that’s Spring to me. Any consistent “warm” weather of like 70 and above is Summer to me. lol. Obviously, someone in central Indiana would strongly disagree with that.  
 

 Anyway, the first week of March looks like we could have well below normal temperatures for this entire sub forum. Of course in March, that could still mean above freezing highs in the central and southern areas of our sub forum.

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1 hour ago, Brian D said:

Saying good-bye to the deeply bitter wx, and on to some milder stuff (35-40) this coming weekend into next week. Heat wave! :) 

Looks like we will end with about average for Ice cover for all the GLs.  Lake Superior being the only GL that didn't get to average.  All the other GLs have now made it above average.

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Unbelievable. I was reading C. F. Volney's "A View of the Soil and Climate of the United States" from the early 1800s, and he noted the mild winters of the Ohio Valley and that parakeets overwintered in the Valley of the Scioto River. I thought, no way, there are no parakeets in Ohio.

What the absolute bleep? There used to be parakeets in Ohio and we killed them all? Why did we kill all of the Ohio parakeets? This is an absolute travesty!

Source: Carolina parakeet - Wikipedia

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7 hours ago, sbnwx85 said:

Lake effect band has set up to my east which none of the models picked up on. A co-worker has observed 2” per hour snows within the band. So far just light snow here. Gotta love the lake effect

Got about an inch at home before I went to work. Might get another inch. The band went east thanks to a mesolow then came ashore and fell apart. 15 miles to my north got 10" of fresh powder. So close yet so far.

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On 2/20/2025 at 11:46 AM, Brian D said:

This is yesterday's ice. Probably will be the greatest extent of the season.

W GL ice Feb 20.gif

E GL ice Feb 20.gif

Guess I spoke too soon :) SW winds today are blowing ice NE, so I'm sure the thin stuff is breaking up with bigger, thicker slabs drifting up the Lake. 

W GL ice Feb 21.gif

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