Central PA Banter (Banter Less?) Thread

[Itstrainingtime]

I'll be completely transparent here - I'm about at the point that I'm almost afraid to fly anymore.

When I was younger I spent a lot of time flying solo all across the country, mostly chasing sporting events. LA, Chicago, Denver, Atlanta, Orlando, San Fran...when I was in my late teens into my early 20s I took so many trips. Flying was easy...no TSA, very few restrictions, etc. Of course, 9/11 changed all of that. Understandably so. But flying today to me is a hassle. Long lines, angry people, delayed flights (and missed connections) have worn me down. I now look for reasons to travel by rail or car. This year, our family is going to Disney in August. Most are flying, I'm taking the Auto Train out of Lorton VA. Doing so actually feels like a part of my vacation. On top of that, as I get older I'm starting to become more and more fearful of things out of my control. Flying is at the top of that list. Last time I flew was coming home from Dallas almost 2 years ago. Flew into MDT, the winds that night were gusting to 50 ( @canderson) and our plane was bouncing and buckling all over the place on approach. Then we had to circle and try again. The entire time I'm a mess. 35-40 years ago I likely would have thought it was a cool experience. Today...notsomuch.

I can't begin to describe the helpless, sick feeling I had last night (and still do) thinking about that incident and what those poor souls must have...I can't even finish. 

[Itstrainingtime]

6 minutes ago, sauss06 said:

damn, sorry to hear buddy. 

 

 I read earlier a bunch of figure skaters, American and Russian were on the plane

It sounds like they were all pretty young, I think? 

Just horrific. 

[sauss06]

22 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

I'll be completely transparent here - I'm about at the point that I'm almost afraid to fly anymore.

When I was younger I spent a lot of time flying solo all across the country, mostly chasing sporting events. LA, Chicago, Denver, Atlanta, Orlando, San Fran...when I was in my late teens into my early 20s I took so many trips. Flying was easy...no TSA, very few restrictions, etc. Of course, 9/11 changed all of that. Understandably so. But flying today to me is a hassle. Long lines, angry people, delayed flights (and missed connections) have worn me down. I now look for reasons to travel by rail or car. This year, our family is going to Disney in August. Most are flying, I'm taking the Auto Train out of Lorton VA. Doing so actually feels like a part of my vacation. On top of that, as I get older I'm starting to become more and more fearful of things out of my control. Flying is at the top of that list. Last time I flew was coming home from Dallas almost 2 years ago. Flew into MDT, the winds that night were gusting to 50 ( @canderson) and our plane was bouncing and buckling all over the place on approach. Then we had to circle and try again. The entire time I'm a mess. 35-40 years ago I likely would have thought it was a cool experience. Today...notsomuch.

I can't begin to describe the helpless, sick feeling I had last night (and still do) thinking about that incident and what those poor souls must have...I can't even finish. 

Yep, almost word for word. 

I am a protector by nature. I'm the guy who ALWAYS sits facing the door, and all my friends and family know it.( they don't even question any more) i always know more then 1 way out and have a game plan if shit goes south. i am always on alert so to speak. So traveling is tough for me. i am usually exausted by days end. It sucks really and i have changed a little since being sick last year. But i'm told i have been this way, even as a toddler. 

21 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

It sounds like they were all pretty young, I think? 

Just horrific. 

Thats the way it sounds to me. 

[Festus]

In less than 24 hours, great to see POTUS has already found the root cause that being DEI.

The bottom is calling asking if we're there yet.

 

[anotherman]

In less than 24 hours, great to see POTUS has already found the root cause that being DEI.
The bottom is calling asking if we're there yet.
 

What an absolute disgrace. The people who died in this tragedy deserve more. Not this buffoon spewing lies.

[Itstrainingtime]

7 minutes ago, Festus said:

In less than 24 hours, great to see POTUS has already found the root cause that being DEI.

The bottom is calling asking if we're there yet.

 

 

5 minutes ago, anotherman said:

What an absolute disgrace. The people who died in this tragedy deserve more. Not this buffoon spewing lies.

His exact quote to defend his stance was "because I have common sense, that's why."

As a conservative, it's nothing short of an embarrassment. 

[sauss06]

i had to look to see when the last crash was, 1982. was cold and Icey then too.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90

[Itstrainingtime]

3 minutes ago, sauss06 said:

i had to look to see when the last crash was, 1982. was cold and Icey then too.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90

During a snowstorm, our family was eating dinner together as it happened. I remember it vividly. 

[anotherman]

2 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

During a snowstorm, our family was eating dinner together as it happened. I remember it vividly. 

I remember it on the news.  I think there were strangers swimming in to rescue people.  Would that happen now?

[Itstrainingtime]

Just now, anotherman said:

I remember it on the news.  I think there were strangers swimming in to rescue people.  Would that happen now?

Ironically, 2 days ago I was reading a random story about high winds blowing a truck over on it's side on the Girard Point Bridge in Philadelphia, the bridge that I take directly to the stadium complex. Apparently, the truck driver and his dog were trapped precariously close to plunging into the river when a guy jumped out of his car, climbed on top of the side of the truck and was able to pull out both the driver and his pet. I think this happened just a few years ago?

There are still some heroic people around today. 

Edit: I just found the story! https://www.hand2shouldercenter.com/helping-hands-dr-adam-strohl-and-wysem-irby-rescue-driver-on-girard-point-bridge/

[sauss06]

1 hour ago, anotherman said:

I remember it on the news.  I think there were strangers swimming in to rescue people.  Would that happen now?

Every day all across the country, average people do extraordinary things, we just don't hear about them. Every day, fireman, cops, medics and solders save lives, many say its their job. yes, however a normal person isn't going to knowingly put there self in harms way, its not natural. I really look at things differently after i was sick last year. There is absolutely no reason i am alive, other then i have something left to accomplish, the good lord has a plan.   

55 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Ironically, 2 days ago I was reading a random story about high winds blowing a truck over on it's side on the Girard Point Bridge in Philadelphia, the bridge that I take directly to the stadium complex. Apparently, the truck driver and his dog were trapped precariously close to plunging into the river when a guy jumped out of his car, climbed on top of the side of the truck and was able to pull out both the driver and his pet. I think this happened just a few years ago?

There are still some heroic people around today. 

Edit: I just found the story! https://www.hand2shouldercenter.com/helping-hands-dr-adam-strohl-and-wysem-irby-rescue-driver-on-girard-point-bridge/

every day brother, every day. 

[canderson]

My friend's nephew was 16 - so yes it was teens who were trying out for national teams and all. 

@Itstrainingtime I understand your post about flying. I love it - but I'm weird. I can completely understand not liking the security theater, crowding, etc. But if it helps, flying has never been safer in America - ever - which is awful to say given last night's horrific accident. The Auto Train looks like a great way to get down to Florida - relaxing and all. Slow travel can often be the best kind of travel. 

Also, the guy who spoke this morning and blamed DEI is a garbage human being and his comments are, as always, abhorrent. 

[Itstrainingtime]

14 minutes ago, canderson said:

My friend's nephew was 16 - so yes it was teens who were trying out for national teams and all. 

@Itstrainingtime I understand your post about flying. I love it - but I'm weird. I can completely understand not liking the security theater, crowding, etc. But if it helps, flying has never been safer in America - ever - which is awful to say given last night's horrific accident. The Auto Train looks like a great way to get down to Florida - relaxing and all. Slow travel can often be the best kind of travel. 

Also, the guy who spoke this morning and blamed DEI is a garbage human being and his comments are, as always, abhorrent. 

I neglected to mention in my post, and I was thinking about it - the irony is that flying is indeed much safer now than it was when I loved to fly. Youth, or being a young adult I think allowed me to have a more carefree attitude back then. 

I am probably an anomaly. I am a registered R, consider myself to be at the very least moderately conservative, but my vote does not always reflect that. I feel that the person in the highest office should live to a very high standard. At least that's what's important to me. And he falls woefully short of that. I was told for months to "vote policy" but I'm sorry, the highest ranking official in the country had better damn well be a good person. 

[canderson]

20 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

I neglected to mention in my post, and I was thinking about it - the irony is that flying is indeed much safer now than it was when I loved to fly. Youth, or being a young adult I think allowed me to have a more carefree attitude back then. 

I am probably an anomaly. I am a registered R, consider myself to be at the very least moderately conservative, but my vote does not always reflect that. I feel that the person in the highest office should live to a very high standard. At least that's what's important to me. And he falls woefully short of that. I was told for months to "vote policy" but I'm sorry, the highest ranking official in the country had better damn well be a good person. 

You're a rare breed - unfortunately. So many brains have been broken but extreme news and social media and it's a cult like thing now. When politics start becoming identity for people, and a sport, is when it started to collapse. The complete disregard for humanity, facts and truth is just ... depressing as hell.