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February Medium/Long Range Thread


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2 minutes ago, Ji said:

Has there ever been a 1-2 foot storm in dc where NYC got shutout? I feel like they always reel it in in the last 24 hours somehow

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Had the same thought. I feel like it's either "both" of us, neither of us, or just them (not for this storm, just in general). The excellent @SnowGoose69alluded to this in the NYC thread. 

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5 minutes ago, MillvilleWx said:

I don't put much stock in the ICON since it's a trash can model in the grand scheme, but I still look because there's nothing else new to parse over. Run was great for many, especially if you are east of Rt15. If you live out by 81, I can see SOME disdain, but even so, it's 11-13" so nothing to sneeze at. 

Also, if you are posting doom and gloom on a run before it finishes and it ends up being significant anyway, should be a key to stop doing any pbp and just enjoy others input. I did it for 6 years before I started doing any pbp and I'm a degreed met now. Sit back and learn, ask questions, and enjoy the meteorology of it all. 

Icon I’ve noticed tends to be stingy on qpf out there often. Makes sense. It’s stingier in general usually (except some odd times when it goes nuts kinda like the 3k NAM in that way) and that area is a precip shadow zone but given what their ratios are likely to be and how the valley tends to do in coastals so long as they get into the easterly low level fetch as the low passes SE of them, I’d expect them to do better. Strictly assuming this run was actually close to reality.  

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1 minute ago, DDweatherman said:

@Ji

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lol that always makes me cringe. I didn’t measure but I think the reason the map dips down like that in NEMD is because Philips Army Airfield at APG measured when they got back in the office the day after. Thankfully they don’t submit reports anymore.

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lol that always makes me cringe. I didn’t measure but I think the reason the map dips down like that in NEMD is because Philips Army Airfield at APG measured when they got back in the office the day after. Thankfully they don’t submit reports anymore.

If you zoom in far enough you can see the lighter blue from dca’s report
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50 minutes ago, Rvarookie said:

I don’t brag…I always root for y’all even when I get slop. For this one tho…I’m just hoping to enjoy a little karma for few folks

Weird. Because you said the exact same thing leading up to the last storm.

How far back do we have to go to find where you "always root for y'all"?

Because it looks to me like you bring little more than trolling and toxicity to these threads. When was the "rooting" happening again?

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Just now, TowsonWeather said:

Weird. Because you said the exact same thing leading up to the last storm.

How far back do we have to go to find where you "always root for y'all"?

Because it looks to me like you bring little more than trolling and toxicity to these threads. When was the "rooting" happening again?

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He’s doing the opposite of what PSU talked about regarding a “settle the score” storm for certain areas. Like Mother Nature gives a damn about us. 

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Then 2/10/10 gave NY retribution and 2/23-2/26 did some more. The retrograde storm as I call it. We thought we had a chance with that one, just didn’t happen. 

That was an incredible 2 weeks to experience up there. I was honestly spoiled rotten wrt snow when I was younger. The retrograde system was unreal. We seemingly got at least one KU each year from 96 to 2010. It was an incredible 20 year stretch for the nyc suburbs. Above average snowfall most years. Then I moved down here and we get shellacked Jan 2016. Been all downhill since then but hoping this year is the start of a snowier set of winters for us as the pac becomes less hostile.
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30 minutes ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said:

When is the last time we had a >1050mb High in the Midwest for a storm? Seems pretty extreme. The 18z NAM at 84hr has 1054mb. 

Todays 12z models holding the storm really upped the chances imo. 

Also, if models weaken that 1050's mb High in future runs, will the storm trend north?

Most of the best h5 analogs I found the storm being too far northwest was a bigger issue than southeast. March 14 2017 was the best match imo at h5. But most didn’t have a 1055 high and this level of arctic air involved.  But I don’t buy a weak OTS solution with this h5 setup.  

13 minutes ago, Ji said:

Has there ever been a 1-2 foot storm in dc where NYC got shutout? I feel like they always reel it in in the last 24 hours somehow

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Feb 2010 ya. One of the 1987 storms was close to a foot in DC and nada or very little there.  But the point it’s really rare is legit. Thing is there are typical interactions and a storm that’s amplified enough to get those kinds of totals up to DC rarely gets stoned immediately after.  A cut off or STJ only system can slide under the NS without a full phase and blast NC and southern VA but without some NS help its unlikely to get those totals to DC. And if it does it’s not likely to be sliding due east and miss NYC. 

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4 minutes ago, jayyy said:


That was an incredible 2 weeks to experience up there. I was honestly spoiled rotten wrt snow when I was younger. The retrograde system was unreal. We seemingly got at least one KU each year from 96 to 2010. It was an incredible 20 year stretch for the nyc suburbs. Above average snowfall most years. Then I moved down here and we get shellacked Jan 2016. Been all downhill since then but hoping this year is the start of a snowier set of winters for us as the pac becomes less hostile.

Really hoping this is a decadal change for the PAC. here’s to PSU and Bob being right about that. Sometimes when we get hot, we can still do special things here. 

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