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[mention=2304]psuhoffman[/mention] from what you see currently in the data and trends what do you think is the floor for storm? 6 or do we do the 18-2 thing again lol

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Omg @stormtracker needs to issue some red cards up in here.  Some of yall make me look like an optimist or ya just trolling or drunk lol  

Icon:  just had its best most amplified run other than the last one.  That isn’t a trend it’s noise.  We’re still 100 hours out.  
 

When I said guidance would start to converge on a solution pretty close to reality around 140 I didn’t mean to the F’ing mile.  I meant they would do what they’ve done.  We now know there’s going to be a significant storm off the mid Atlantic coast.  We’re no longer looking at 200 mile shifts run to run or the storm not being there at all.  Now we’re dealing with more subtle adjustments and trends that are still significant to us but a 20% change in amplitude run to run is still noise at this range!  In other words the difference between this and the last run can honestly just be chance and both are equally likely  


 

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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

Omg @stormtracker needs to issue some red cards up in here.  Some of yall make me look like an optimist or ya just trolling or drunk lol  

Icon:  just had its best most amplified run other than the last one.  That isn’t a trend it’s noise.  We’re still 100 hours out.  
 

When I said guidance would start to converge on a solution pretty close to reality around 140 I didn’t mean to the F’ing mile.  I meant they would do what they’ve done.  We now know there’s going to be a significant storm off the mid Atlantic coast.  We’re no longer looking at 200 mile shifts run to run or the storm not being there at all.  Now we’re dealing with more subtle adjustments and trends that are still significant to us but a 20% change in amplitude run to run is still noise at this range!  In other words the difference between this and the last run can honestly just be chance and both are equally likely  


 

You referring to this HECS look?

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=icon&region=us&pkg=z500_vort&runtime=2025021518&fh=114

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I don't put much stock in the ICON since it's a trash can model in the grand scheme, but I still look because there's nothing else new to parse over. Run was great for many, especially if you are east of Rt15. If you live out by 81, I can see SOME disdain, but even so, it's 11-13" so nothing to sneeze at. 

Also, if you are posting doom and gloom on a run before it finishes and it ends up being significant anyway, should be a key to stop doing any pbp and just enjoy others input. I did it for 6 years before I started doing any pbp and I'm a degreed met now. Sit back and learn, ask questions, and enjoy the meteorology of it all. 

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2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Omg @stormtracker needs to issue some red cards up in here.  Some of yall make me look like an optimist or ya just trolling or drunk lol  

Icon:  just had its best most amplified run other than the last one.  That isn’t a trend it’s noise.  We’re still 100 hours out.  
 

When I said guidance would start to converge on a solution pretty close to reality around 140 I didn’t mean to the F’ing mile.  I meant they would do what they’ve done.  We now know there’s going to be a significant storm off the mid Atlantic coast.  We’re no longer looking at 200 mile shifts run to run or the storm not being there at all.  Now we’re dealing with more subtle adjustments and trends that are still significant to us but a 20% change in amplitude run to run is still noise at this range!  In other words the difference between this and the last run can honestly just be chance and both are equally likely  


 

Like I said earlier, 12z Monday will pass judgement, but east of I-95 will likely be bombed!

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Just now, 87storms said:

It could be like 50 miles further south, but yea that's going to be shut things down for a couple days.

I love these storms because of the phases. The hefty thumpy WAA (which it won’t be warm if the icon is right, cold smoke), then the crazy ratios in a ULL. That run really reminded me of Feb 10,2010.

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2 minutes ago, 87storms said:

Ya and the fact it’s usually one of the stingiest models with QPF and it just dropped .75-1.5 qpf of cold smoke across the whole area from the blue ridge to the eastern shore up into southern PA and some are making it sound like a disaster. 

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2 minutes ago, MillvilleWx said:

I don't put much stock in the ICON since it's a trash can model in the grand scheme, but I still look because there's nothing else new to parse over. Run was great for many, especially if you are east of Rt15. If you live out by 81, I can see SOME disdain, but even so, it's 11-13" so nothing to sneeze at. 

Also, if you are posting doom and gloom on a run before it finishes and it ends up being significant anyway, should be a key to stop doing any pbp and just enjoy others input. I did it for 6 years before I started doing any pbp and I'm a degreed met now. Sit back and learn, ask questions, and enjoy the meteorology of it all. 

I'm only 2 miles nw of Rt 15, so I'm going to classify myself as east.

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Icon gives me 12-15” of snow  (assuming typical ratios here for this setup). If that happens I’ll be celebrating. And some are saying bad run lol. 
If we get 12-15 in Nina I'd calm it a HLecs

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5 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

Omg @stormtracker needs to issue some red cards up in here.  Some of yall make me look like an optimist or ya just trolling or drunk lol  

Icon:  just had its best most amplified run other than the last one.  That isn’t a trend it’s noise.  We’re still 100 hours out.  
 

When I said guidance would start to converge on a solution pretty close to reality around 140 I didn’t mean to the F’ing mile.  I meant they would do what they’ve done.  We now know there’s going to be a significant storm off the mid Atlantic coast.  We’re no longer looking at 200 mile shifts run to run or the storm not being there at all.  Now we’re dealing with more subtle adjustments and trends that are still significant to us but a 20% change in amplitude run to run is still noise at this range!  In other words the difference between this and the last run can honestly just be chance and both are equally likely  


 

I’m always optimistic, even when it may not be realistic. But I appreciate your insight because you will keep us focused on reality. I have learned that modeling is more than just the pretty maps.  They don’t always follow the trends, so it’s useful to get insight on the actual storm  progression. 

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