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February Medium/Long Range Thread


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Why? It's close.
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It’s cool. We’ll just pretend it’s 2008 and that the GFS is of course too flat / late on phasing. Back then you could legit bank on it being 100-200 miles too far SE. Every. Single. Time.

Go out to
Fucking
Sea

is what some folks called it
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Ya know I’ve argued for years the 12k NAM just ads noise and confusion. Sure once in a blue moon it scores a coup but 90% of the time when it’s off on a tangent it’s wrong. We’d be better if it just didn’t exist. 3k ads value because as long as it matches the globals on Synoptics it can see features they can’t. 
 

But im getting to that point with the GFS. Since the last major upgrade that fixed some of the early biases they were causing the new euro after its core upgrade to be jumpy, it’s been a rock. Of cores it’s not always right, but it’s right or closer to right often enough that the other models tend to just add confusion unnecessarily. And when another model has been closer on rare occasions it’s almost never been the gfs. Maybe one fluke run here or there but what good is that because you don’t know what run is right. It’s sad but bc the euro and to a lesser extent the Ggem have made significant improvements and the GFS has not kept up, it’s becoming kinda obsolete right now to me. I feel like I’d better off not even looking at it most of the time. 
 

Wonder if NCEP sees this too and has any plans to do anything about it. I dont doubt we have the knowledge. I think it must be a funding issue. 

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A lot of possibilities on the table. I'd feel better if we had low pressures at the latitude on both sides, closer, a slower mid-latitude flow, but a block over the top can be enough to buckle the flow under it. GEFS did trend stronger with the Canadian block today.. if it times right, we can do a monster. Still a lot of variation though in what could happen imo. You want to see more ensembles showing a hit. Watching closely. It could be a fun storm! Hopefully it holds. I'm not strongly for or against it right now. 

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6 minutes ago, nj2va said:

I’m originally from NJ and still have family in Burlington, Ocean, and Middlesex Counties.  Y’all get buried too on that run.

I have some extended family from south Jersey.  I have memories from when I was a kid of my second cousin who was a first grade teacher and her license plate read "Bud Babe".  Outstanding people, really.

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Thickening clouds Wednesday after a  morning low around 10. Then a high in  the low 20's with snow breaking out in the afternoon. Knowing it's going to snow for the next 24 hours with 2ft. on the way. This is why we do this. We need to bring this one home.

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12 minutes ago, T. August said:

@Ravens94 NEMD was pummeled man. Where are you

We get buried on the Euro. I would love this! 

Another thing too is if we do get a good snowfall, temps should be cool for a while, at least below 40. The upper latitude pattern goes south, but we do hold a trough it looks like for up to 7 days after. 

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A lot of possibilities on the table. I'd feel better if we had low pressures at the latitude on both sides, closer, a slower mid-latitude flow, but a block over the top can be enough to buckle the flow under it. GEFS did trend stronger with the Canadian block today.. if it times right, we can do a monster. Still a lot of variation though in what could happen imo. You want to see more ensembles showing a hit. Watching closely. It could be a fun storm! Hopefully it holds. I'm not strongly for or against it right now. 

Not for nothing… every major ensemble had this past Wednesday as a big hit for us 5+ days out and the OPs said nope. Turned out they were right.
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It was the h5 and speed of 12z but the progression of 18z wrt developing the arctic wave and rolling through with that feature. It was the best of both.  

How is the Feb 25 window looking?
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