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February Medium/Long Range Thread


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19 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

I think we want is fast. The blocking is going to drop in. We need a quick hit. Or we get suppressed. 

the flow is too suppressive overall for a quick relatively weak STJ wave to get it done...we need it to slow down and phase with that trailing NS TPV lobe tail.  That's the path.  It's worked before, Dec 2009 was that kind of progression.  This wouldn't have that kind of upside I don't think but talking about storm type.  The upside on a faster disconnected unphased wave is pretty low...probably 3-6" max and I'm willing to kick that in hopes of a big dog.  It's not like we didn't get any snow this season...lets go big or go home here.  

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5 minutes ago, JenkinsJinkies said:

So if eastern NC and southern VA score then does that mean that we still have a chance at those 2ft+ snows in future winters?

People can make fun of it but it's a really good point. The death of Winter on the East Coast is highly exaggerated.

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Just now, clskinsfan said:

Damn. We lost Mappy!! :)

I’m in the same mind frame as @WVclimo at this point. I’ll bow out and find joy elsewhere if I’m gonna be adding another 2” to my total while others jackpot again :weep:

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29 minutes ago, mappy said:

This hobby sucks. F all that dark gray stupid stuff. Can’t even get digital snow anymore 

Just go cuddle up on the couch with your hubby, throw some ice cubes on the floor, and go watch your wedding video. :wub:

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38 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

18z a little too progressive for my liking compared to 12z.

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Disagree with this. PNA is more robust  at 18z, the vort is stronger, and the heights out ahead are higher. Maybe our definitions of progressive dont jive. Less of a dig maybe but I think it could just be a hair slower. The blocking overtop is even stronger 18z. Again, might be getting ready to go apeshit after this, we just can't know.

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5 hours ago, Heisy said:


The second event feb 9-11 2010 was sort of like that. This event has more southern proponent ahead of it I think


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thanks for the suggestion, looking at era5 looks like it did have a tpv phase - kicker vort dug and amplified the western ridge which lead to a tpv lobe digging all the way down and phasing w/ the other wave, roll it forward and...
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17 minutes ago, Ji said:

The problem with the storm is, we are rapidly running out of time if things don’t get better in the next 24 to 36 hours we are toast

Wow, wth did i sleep thru? Meteorologists perfected modeling 6 days out now? I missed that AMS headline apparently. Thanks for the hot take dude.

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3 minutes ago, aldie 22 said:

What needs to get better on each model

It depends what you want. If you want a front runner with 2-4 for all of us you want it to speed up. So we dont get skipped. If you want a complete bomb you want it to slow down and phase. Much less likely. But lets fucking big dog hunt at this point. 

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Disagree with this. PNA is more robust  at 18z, the vort is stronger, and the heights out ahead are higher. Maybe our definitions of progressive dont jive. Less of a dig maybe but I think it could just be a hair slower. The blocking overtop is even stronger 18z. Again, might be getting ready to go apeshit after this, we just can't know.

I do see what Mitch is saying the entire trough and ULL are farther E. The farther W you’d assume would benefit in giving us more room for it to develop. Hard to know what would have happened beyond 144. It’ll be different in a few hours anyway.


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1 minute ago, Heisy said:


I do see what Mitch is saying the entire trough and ULL are farther E. The farther W you’d assume would benefit in giving us more room for it to develop. Hard to know what would have happened beyond 144. It’ll be different in a few hours anyway.


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Yes and no.  One way to look at it is the kicker remains in place and even though the main closed low is a bit further east, there is now more separation between it and the kicker.  So possibly this gives it room to dig enough prior to the coast to bring up a strengthening low.  It’s why the ridge is better as well.

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