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February Medium/Long Range Thread


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17 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Honestly, it's a bit early for everything to show a blizzard. It will never hold because there are just too many things that can go wrong imho.

Maybe, but we are heading into the range where models have actually locked in on a general solution close to what the end result was.  Obviously there will be some details that change but almost every event this year something close to the final outcome started to show across guidance around 140-150 hours out, then only fairly minor wobbles happened from then on it.  I don't mind if they start to lock in on a mid atlantic MECS now...were not day 10+ anymore.  

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6 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

SNow is bad..looks like up to 4" for the cities and a bit more to the S and E.  2-4 for PSU land

This may be the timeframe where the GFS is too far S and E.  At least that's what I'm telling myself

 

5 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said:

I'm seeing 6-8 on Pivotal

Foot for OCMD. 4-6” for metros, less north, more SE.

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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

Maybe, but we are heading into the range where models have actually locked in on a general solution close to what the end result was.  Obviously there will be some details that change but almost every event this year something close to the final outcome started to show across guidance around 140-150 hours out, then only fairly minor wobbles happened from then on it.  I don't mind if they start to lock in on a mid atlantic MECS now...were not day 10+ anymore.  

We agree I think. They need to show a hit of some degree, light to blizzard. Just not all blizzards because that will never hold.

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14 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

Ok, misses east again, but get's some snow up to us. 

It has a LOT more potential...look at the upper low to our NW...on the GFS is strung out and diffuse west to east over the top.  That causes it to act more as a disruptor and blocking force rather than digging in and amplifying the wave.  If that were to consolidate more around either lobe up there...preferable the further west one, that's how last nights Euro got it done...but either...get a more consolidated upper low that can amplify and cause ridging in front of it rather than stretch out and deamplify the flow...this would end up a bigger storm.  

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11 minutes ago, Heisy said:

Gfs didn’t phase the N stream in and it still produced what it did. That’s a great sign.


CMC looks more like the euro and other models with that..

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yea this is what I mean in my last post...the GFS is a mess with that upper feature and stretches it out which deamplifies the flow under it.  If it looks more like the Euro/GGEM I think we get a bigger storm.  

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Just now, winter_warlock said:

 Considering it's 6 days out the cmc/gem don't look bad at all!!!

 

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depends... but I doubt anyone in MD NW of 95 wants to see any model run that shows the snow SE of DC like that.   Sorry but its kinda traumatic at this point.  I would rather see a storm with precip type issues right now, both given this setup and given how this season has gone.   

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1 minute ago, psuhoffman said:

depends... but I doubt anyone in MD NW of 95 wants to see any model run that shows the snow SE of DC like that.   Sorry but its kinda traumatic at this point.  I would rather see a storm with precip type issues right now, both given this setup and given how this season has gone.   

I like where the Euro is when compared to the GEM. And at least the GFS had decent potential.

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