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February Medium/Long Range Thread


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Just now, NorthArlington101 said:

Ok let’s be honest with ourselves barring the greatest pivot of all time there is maybe 1” of snow left in that run for anyone outside of our easterly members 

You don't know how long it lingers and if any of the eastern stuff rotates westward. 

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2 minutes ago, osfan24 said:

LOL that’s noise. There’s almost 30 inches just east of the metros.

Yeah. And he is obviously trolling us. Most of us north of 70 would be thrilled with half of what that run is showing.

I recall PSU saying that since this is a Nina, even with that setup it will take lots of luck to get 12”+ and 6-12 would still be a big success.

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3 minutes ago, Chris78 said:

Eastern areas are really in a sweet spot.

Nina climo ftmfw. My parents are retired in Cape May. I told them years ago ninas generally favor them vs my area.

So when I told them in Oct we may be going into a weak Nina they were look "shit, that means snow down here this winter". Hasnt disappointed yet.

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3 minutes ago, SomeguyfromTakomaPark said:

Yeah that’s like an 18 inch blizzard in the metros with a foot plus across the whole region. 
 

I need @Solution Man sign here please image!!

I don't give a fuck who jackpots. Congrats. Just let me get in on a couple inches up this way. Not asking much, I'm not picky. Just about my beer.

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9 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

I don't give a fuck who jackpots. Congrats. Just let me get in on a couple inches up this way. Not asking much, I'm not picky. Just about my beer.

The fact that one is showing up is telling imho.  That’s a signature of every big storm in the mid range.  You start seeing this high total bullseyes right at the pivot point for the storm. I am just glad we are seeing one. 
 

btw did you see the surface temps are at around 20 for these ccb panels.

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5 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

Dendrite bomb CCB ongoing with 12-20”+ on the ground. Terrible run:(

I’m out. Awful run. This place sucks. Thanks everyone for nothing.

ETA: secretly cracks 53th beer today with the weird monkey sideways eyes meme looking straight at me. :drunk::lol:

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2 minutes ago, MDScienceTeacher said:

The fact that one is showing up is telling imho.  That’s a signature of every big storm in the mid range.  You start seeing this high total bullseyes right at the pivot point for the storm. I am just glad we are seeing one. 
 

btw did you see the surface temps are at around 20 for these ccb panels.

Could have legit blizzard criteria in spots. Sustained winds would be the final ingredient

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After Tuesday night disaster at work (I work at Amazon and we had to stay open because DCA1 said we're sending you 5k of packages in two trailers) - and trying to get to work was a disaster in itself - I've already flagged next week with our management/operations team.  

Plus our bozo day shift said hey we're going to leave all your carts outside... so they are covered in snow and ice and not bring them in because... we didn't feel like it.  And there's over 250 of them.  It was not a fun 4 hours the next night.

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Ok a few points rattling through my brain

1) there are actually things I like better about this Euro run.  It focuses on the arctic boundary wave associated with the TPV more (as I suspected and hoped guidance would come around to) and because of that it develops the system and starts to mature sooner.  It moves a little quicker which cuts down snow totals from HECS to MECS levels.  But its a much safer way to go, this progression would have a lot less bust potential than relying on the late bomb phase capture tuck scenario of the 12z euro where everything gets under us and we need it to come straight north really to get us...a SW to NE trajectory is much safer if we want to guard against a really bad GFS like outcome which honestly is more important to me than shooting for the moon here.  Yea I would LOVE 20" but if it comes with a big risk of 2-4" instead...I'd rather take a safe 10-15" snowstorm.  

2) The 12z op euro was one of the snowiest solutions across the EPS.  There was one absolutely bonkers run that was a 2016 1996 type redux with 30"+ across the whole area...then there were 4 members that were similar...but the op was an extreme outlier high end solution.  It was probably just random chance that it spit out one of the bigger permutations.  A 8-15" type snow was the more common result across members.  And then there were some "blah" minority results also...BTW among those there were more misses due to over amplified cutters than OTS GFS solutions, but there were a few of those too.  All that to say, the 20" HECS solution was never the most likely outcome even within the euro suite.  

3) anyone who throws a fit if we end up with a 10-15" snowstorm should be taken out back the woodshed and *&^&%*$&&*%&%.  Frankly that goes for a 8-12" storm also... if we end up with some 4" weak sauce ordinary storm sure, if MD gets fringed again sure...if this euro ends up the final result we should be acting like those people in philly after the eagles won the super bowl.  We haven't had a widespread storm like that in years.  We don't live in Vermont.  A 10" snowstorm is a freaking huge win. 

4) The DC-Baltimore area has had 10 HECS storms since 1950 total...and worse only 1 of them came in a la nina winter.  1.  1 more than none.  in 75 years.  So get that out of your heads.  If we do get a HECS then act like you just won the weather lottery because you did.  Frankly we've only even had 8 MECS (this is subjective but by my count) storms in the last 75 years in a la nina.  But that's way better odds than 1.  8x the odds lol.  So I think MECS is probably the reasonable high end expectations here and that should be totally fine.  That's still a super rare outcome!  When I said I think this happens and we have a good chance at a big snowstorm before the winter is over...I wasn't ever thinking HECS.  I was picturing a 8-12" type storm.  

 

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